[fixed] Dragon Age 2 Low Performance on Nvidia Cards [fixed]

[notty22]

A quick google, shows people are asking that question.

"Before continuing, know this. You can apply this pack even if you don’t have a DX11 card. In case you didn’t know, if you own a DX10 you can run the game in DX10 mode via the DX11 renderer. By using the DX11 renderer, you can enable the high-resolution texture pack and enjoy the enhanced textures. DX9 owners on the other hand won’t be able to enable them, no matter what."

Took that from an article here: http://www.dasreviews.com/das-game-news/comparison-normal-highresolution-textures-dragon-age-2/

http://www.rpgcodex.net/phpBB/viewtopic.php?t=56710
Andreas Papathanasis wrote...

Just to clarify that you do NOT need to have a DX11 capable GPU to use the high resolution textures. To get the full benefit you need to run the game using the DirectX 11 renderer, which is backwards compatible with DX10. So even if you have a DX10 GPU (and Windows Vista SP2 or Windows 7) you'll still be able to run the game using the DirectX 11 renderer.

If you can only play using the DirectX 9 renderer you'll still get a small benefit out of the texture pack. In particular certain character textures will look nicer, but most of the benefits on the environments don't apply to DX9. The reason for this is technical, and it has to do with the maximum texture sizes allowed by the DX9 vs DX11 APIs.

http://social.bioware.com/page/da2-patches

 

[Skurge]

This is very informative. I did not know that you can run the high rez texture pack with DX9. I thought they were both included. So, knowing this, I think the issue is less severe than I had thought.

Yeah, you'll have to ask around if the texture pack also affects performance on nV cards badly. I'm not sure about that one.

 

[happy medium]

Are you saying Grooveriding should be banned because he made a thread pointing problems with is GTX480 (and multiples of it) in 1 game?

No not at all.
I'm saying any positive Nvidia guy will get banned for stating his opinion in a positive AMD thread but a positive AMD guy can trash a positive Nvidia thread and have a AMD bash party and they still seem to have their accounts.
And Solofly is just another example of this forum behaivior.

Are you comparing a guy that makes a thread when he is pissed with 1 game not working properly (with or without AA) with a guy that kept spamming threads left and right?

I think you better click on his name, click prior posts, and look at the numerous spamming going on and get back to us on that one.quote]

This hysterically unsupported attempt to impugn VC&G moderator integrity will not be tolerated. Please re-think your posting approach here.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Lostpc]

Hello Everyone,

I just got the Powercolor 6850 card. I was wondering what settings should I be playing at? Currently have the it on high settings with hi res texture patch. Should I push the settings to ultra high? Also I'm still debating whether to have the resolution at 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200. I have installed the 11.4 preview driver. Appreciate any commments.

 

[PingviN]

Hello Everyone,

I just got the Powercolor 6850 card. I was wondering what settings should I be playing at? Currently have the it on high settings with hi res texture patch. Should I push the settings to ultra high? Also I'm still debating whether to have the resolution at 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200. I have installed the 11.4 preview driver. Appreciate any commments.

Ehm... trial and error? If it runs Ultra High fine, go for it. If not, stick with lower settings.

 

[SlowSpyder]

Hello Everyone,

I just got the Powercolor 6850 card. I was wondering what settings should I be playing at? Currently have the it on high settings with hi res texture patch. Should I push the settings to ultra high? Also I'm still debating whether to have the resolution at 1920 x 1080 or 1920 x 1200. I have installed the 11.4 preview driver. Appreciate any commments.

Try it and see?

If your monitor is 1920x1200 most people would suggest going with your native resolution, LCD's tend to look a bit fuzzy when you use anything besides the native res.

 

[CVSiN]

This is the drivers I'm using and not having any performance issues on a 580 at all.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-267.31-beta-driver.html

these are 580 only beta drivers but they are tweaked for DA2.

 

[busydude]

No not at all. I'm saying any positive Nvidia guy will get banned for stating his opinion in a positive AMD thread but a positive AMD guy can trash a positive Nvidia thread and have a AMD bash party and they still seem to have their accounts. And Solofly is just another example of this forum behaivior.

What world do you live in? Solofly got banned because he was thread crapping about how bad AMD's drivers are even in seemingly unrelated threads. There are guys who do the same from AMD's side too.. that just does not mean this forum is full of AMD fanboys. Zoners think this forum is overrun by Nvidiots and vice versa.. there is nothing more to it. I can't remember the user name of his.. but he was an AMD fan.. and he he got banned for bashing Nvidia few months back.

Groveriding, these things happen and I empathize with you, but this is not the first time that this has happened. Its totally fair for you to vent. There were a lot of games in the past that has huge bugs which rendered the game unplayable.. Stalker series, F1 2010, Fallout series and so on.. it seems like game studios are mostly releasing beta versions of the games first just to meet the deadlines and then fixing it later on.

 

[digitaldurandal]

I think you better click on his name, click prior posts, and look at the numerous spamming going on and get back to us on that one.

I have to agree with happy here. He is definitely disatisfied with nvidia and he lets it be known in every thread.

Is this issue confirmed to be a problem on all systems or is it a problem only on some systems? I was really looking forward to this game... well the GOTY version or whatever when it is on sale.

 

[digitaldurandal]

Groveriding, these things happen and I empathize with you, but this is not the first time that this has happened. Its totally fair for you to vent. There were a lot of games in the past that has huge bugs which rendered the game unplayable.. Stalker series, F1 2010, Fallout series and so on.. it seems like game studios are mostly releasing beta versions of the games first just to meet the deadlines and then fixing it later on.

We are such a small drop in the bucket compared to consoles that they focus only on them. If the game is unplayable and no one purchases it on the PC they will cry that they lost 1 billion dollars in sales due to piracy.

I would rather they push PC launch dates back behind consoles and take some time to actually complete the PC version than rush to release it at the same time.

 

[exar333]

Guys, this is one game (and not even a great one at that). Chill out. Driver updates will be released and performance will improve. Maybe this is a game that favors AMD in the long run, but I really doubt a 580-SLI machine will struggle forever on this game. Give it a little time.

Not a call-out here, but some of the comments in this thread are rediculous. I seriously feel like you could cut-and-paste the flame-crap from this thread into numerous others recently. Fanboyism is getting rediculous here in the video forum lately.

 

[formulav8]

Not nvidia needing a driver fix? Who would have thought? :/

Actually, they will release an updated driver and fix the problem and this problem will be dead and gone...

 

[CVSiN]

Guys, this is one game (and not even a great one at that). Chill out. Driver updates will be released and performance will improve. Maybe this is a game that favors AMD in the long run, but I really doubt a 580-SLI machine will struggle forever on this game. Give it a little time.

Not a call-out here, but some of the comments in this thread are rediculous. I seriously feel like you could cut-and-paste the flame-crap from this thread into numerous others recently. Fanboyism is getting rediculous here in the video forum lately.

my Single 580 system has NO ISSUES at all like is being described.
I'm using the above posted BETA 580 Drivers and there hasnt been 1 single issue in the game with them.

high frame rate no missing textures no stutter..

there is no damn issue just try the driver.

 

[Seero]

This is the drivers I'm using and not having any performance issues on a 580 at all.

http://www.nvidia.com/object/win7-winvista-64bit-267.31-beta-driver.html

these are 580 only beta drivers but they are tweaked for DA2.

This was posted in the very first page in this thread by me. Problem is, although it helped, performance isn't where it should be. I am under the assumption that the problem resized in driver has been fixed, but there are more issues that needs to be handled.

Edit: 267.31 contains one bug fix specifically for 5xx series on top of 267.24.

 

[notty22]

Well that driver revision is for 580's ,and we are hearing from 580 owners of good gameplay. Its the OP with his 480's that never found happiness , yet.

 

[Seero]

Well that driver revision is for 580's ,and we are hearing from 580 owners of good gameplay. Its the OP with his 480's that never found happiness , yet.

Some say modding the INF within a driver will lead to better performance, but some also say that it is an effective way to kill a video card.

Again, those who doesn't have 5xx series can try the 267.24 driver. From what I have seen, it helps, but still not at its potential.

 

[notty22]

I never mentioned modding a inf ? The beta driver for a 580 won't install on a 480. And I never recommended it.
Its a sign they can get a handle on this console port.

edit: I'll be happy when they get back to the unified driver for all approach. Once all the cards are rolled out, they will be able to include all for WHQL qualifying.

 

[Seero]

I never mentioned modding a inf ? The beta driver for a 580 won't install on a 480. And I never recommended it.
Its a sign they can get a handle on this console port.

You didn't, I mentioned that just for informational purpose.

 

[exar333]

my Single 580 system has NO ISSUES at all like is being described.
I'm using the above posted BETA 580 Drivers and there hasnt been 1 single issue in the game with them.

high frame rate no missing textures no stutter..

there is no damn issue just try the driver.

Do you work for EA?

:whiste:

Edit: DA2 is fun, but it is not the second coming. Nvidia has a lot of opportunity to improve their drivers, hopefully they do as time goes on.

 

[Skurge]

Some say modding the INF within a driver will lead to better performance, but some also say that it is an effective way to kill a video card.

Again, those who doesn't have 5xx series can try the 267.24 driver. From what I have seen, it helps, but still not at its potential.

How would it kill the video card?

 

[Seero]

Do you work for EA?

Is this line needed? CVSiN is trying to help by sharing his/her experience to the driver and game.

There still exists a performance issue, all helps are needed and should be appreciated.

 

[Seero]

How would it kill the video card?

I don't know, but modding drivers isn't what people should even try.

 

[GaiaHunter]

Are you comparing a guy that makes a thread when he is pissed with 1 game not working properly (with or without AA) with a guy that kept spamming threads left and right?

I think you better click on his name, click prior posts, and look at the numerous spamming going on and get back to us on that one.

I don't see Groove inundating all the threads that talk about NVIDIA with links to several forums reporting whatever problem someone has with NVIDIA cards/drivers like solofly did.

Groove restricted any complains about this problem to this thread from what I can see.

 

[Grooveriding]

my Single 580 system has NO ISSUES at all like is being described.
I'm using the above posted BETA 580 Drivers and there hasnt been 1 single issue in the game with them.

high frame rate no missing textures no stutter..

there is no damn issue just try the driver.

Well you are in the unique position of being a needle in a haystack then. There are no nvidia users I've seen until you stating they can run this game on maximum settings without issue.

And the driver being for a 580 is irrelevant, even an inf hack should make the same results on the 480, and there are reports of 580 and 480 users having no luck with those drivers. The 480 and the 580 are the same card except one has 32 more shaders than the other, so they will both respond to drivers in the same fashion.

I'm glad to hear someone is able to max this game on nvidia hardware, perhaps leave a line in the huge thread at nvidia's forum with your setup and settings so they can try to fix it for everyone.

That thread is full of 580, 480, 470, 570 and 460 users all having the same poor performance if they attempt to run the game on maximum DX11 settings.

The only nvidia users not having issues maxing the game are 260, 285, 295 users etc. Because they can't run DX11 to begin with.

It's on nvidia to fix their DX11 issues with this game.


Edit: As per my post count. I'm leet.

 

[Seero]

Well you are in the unique position of being a needle in a haystack then. There are no nvidia users I've seen until you stating they can run this game on maximum settings without issue...

He isn't unique, he is more forgiving. With the new driver, graphic setting high + SSAO off + high def pack, the games is smooth, very playable. He didn't said he is playing at very high.

Of course, if it is very high + SSAO on that you are pursuing, there is yet a solution.