[fixed] Dragon Age 2 Low Performance on Nvidia Cards [fixed]

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Seero

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Where's your heart? Grooveriding spent $1000+ on the best performing setup he could get. He's concerned that a major game is unplayable. He's being told to ah heck off and sell his cards on ebay because he won't sit there quietly and put up with it.
What do you think I am trying to do?

To me, Grooveriding ain't looking for help, but making the problem bigger than it is. He links pictures completely unrelated to the problem that he claims he is experiencing. Maybe the problem has extended beyond the game and his pc.

Hey but there are lots of people still seeking for help.
 
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Keysplayr

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Shoe meet the other foot.

Simple thread about nvidia driver issue causes much hysteria. Focus group member heads back to NVHQ:

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There is trouble afoot we fail in Dragon Age 2!

JHH learns of the development

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He sends out his finest minions into the forum wilds to blame it all on AMD

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Crisis averted! The Dragon Age AMD forum conspiracy is quashed.

NVHQ goes back to verifying the GTX 680 is coming along

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So, it turns out that you actually didn't want any help with this problem nor did you ever want it brought to Nvidia's attention in order to address the situation. I should have known better. It's posts like these that show the colors bro. Way to go.
 
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Arkadrel

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@Grooveriding

that was funny! ^-^

*edit, also NVHQ looks sexy as hell... thats a nice piece of architecture done right there on that building.
 
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PingviN

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@Grooveriding

that was funny! ^-^

*edit, also NVHQ looks sexy as hell... thats a nice piece of architecture done right there on that building.

One of the more amusing satires I've seen :D

And yes, Nvidia HQ is one fine building.
 

notty22

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So, it turns out that you actually didn't want any help with this problem nor did you ever want it brought to Nvidia's attention in order to address the situation. I should have known better. It's posts like these that show the colors bro. Way to go.

So this was one long
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I don't think I've ever seen this level of buyer remorse.
 

Grooveriding

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So, it turns out that you actually didn't want any help with this problem nor did you ever want it brought to Nvidia's attention in order to address the situation. I should have known better. It's posts like these that show the colors bro. Way to go.


It was tongue in cheek. A joke. Wow.

Another thread down in flames due to NV fanboys. As for allusions of buyers remorse. When the cards perform they're damn fast. The only thing out there better is overclocked 580 tri-sli or 2x6990 quadfire.

Not everyone buys with their heart, I buy with my head. If I wanted I could go out and buy 3 580s and toss the 480s in a drawer. I wouldn't be worried about making bill payments, but it's just not a smart move, thinking with my head ;) I'd be spending $1500 to get less noise and have to overclock the cards to get higher FPS than what I have now ? Think.

Thanks for spoiling another thread. It's a consistent pattern around here, any thread even mildly negative about nv. The same trio or quadro of posters come in and piss all over the floor.

To the level headed: Yes NVHQ looks AMAZING, never saw it till now.

LOL at the original 480 heatsink comment.
 

Madcatatlas

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If number 2 is anything like number 1, id personally not bother even installing it Groove, although yes, i think most people can easily place themselves in your shoes and understand your frustration with Nvidia drivers.

Having that powerful and ..cost ineffective? setup that cant even net you a playable experiance in an AAA title, is just hilarious to say the least.

Ignore the "this shows your color" chorus from the green crowd though, just what you`d expect. Im amazed at the lack of understanding for your situation displayed by these people.
 

Seero

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Make me look like a bad guy.

It was tongue in cheek. A joke. Wow.

Another thread down in flames due to NV fanboys. As for allusions of buyers remorse. When the cards perform they're damn fast. The only thing out there better is overclocked 580 tri-sli or 2x6990 quadfire.

Not everyone buys with their heart, I buy with my head. If I wanted I could go out and buy 3 580s and toss the 480s in a drawer. I wouldn't be worried about making bill payments, but it's just not a smart move, thinking with my head ;) I'd be spending $1500 to get less noise and have to overclock the cards to get higher FPS than what I have now ? Think.

Thanks for spoiling another thread. It's a consistent pattern around here, any thread even mildly negative about nv. The same trio or quadro of posters come in and piss all over the floor.

To the level headed: Yes NVHQ looks AMAZING, never saw it till now.

LOL at the original 480 heatsink comment.
Grooveriding, if I may, what is the reason of this thread if you ain't looking for help? And how NV fanboys destroy this thread?
 

Seero

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Make me look like a bad guy.

If number 2 is anything like number 1, id personally not bother even installing it Groove, although yes, i think most people can easily place themselves in your shoes and understand your frustration with Nvidia drivers.

Having that powerful and ..cost ineffective? setup that cant even net you a playable experiance in an AAA title, is just hilarious to say the least.

Ignore the "this shows your color" chorus from the green crowd though, just what you`d expect. Im amazed at the lack of understanding for your situation displayed by these people.

3DVagabond, if I may ask, what do you think Keys get from helping? And how are you being a good person? Clearly, you didn't try as hard as keys in terms of helping, and you ain't near as bad as keys the way people put him.

To Madcatatlas and Grooveriding, Keys is no body but a NV fanboy regardless of his work, his help.

Or do you actually see it differently?
 
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Grooveriding

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Grooveriding, if I may, what is the reason of this thread if you ain't looking for help? And how NV fanboys destroy this thread?

The thread was to get some help from other people experiencing this. Apparently the thread should of ground to a halt once Keys tells us he let nvidia know.

Ruined by fanboys as they wandered in one by one to do that thing fanboys do when their brand is not being deified.

It is still ongoing as we are forced to discuss their rants and derails rather than the issue.
 

SZLiao214

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Thank god i ran into this thread. I started running DA2 on my nvidia 470 and wasn't pleased with the performance i was getting.

I have a friend who wanted to buy my 470+cooler for very little loss to me. I was about to buy the 560 ti x2.
 

Seero

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The thread was to get some help from other people experiencing this. Apparently the thread should of ground to a halt once Keys tells us he let nvidia know.

Ruined by fanboys as they wandered in one by one to do that thing fanboys do when their brand is not being deified.

It is still ongoing as we are forced to discuss their rants and derails rather than the issue.
Did anyone, including NV fanboys, said that the problem doesn't exists? You mentioned the things fanboys do, from which side? What exactly did they do to ground this thread? What benefit will you gain by posting unrelated pictures which leads to more fanboism(please don't tell me you don't have an idea what pics i'm talking about.) Do you know that Keys is helping you? Did you show appreciation towards those who tries to help?
 

3DVagabond

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3DVagabond, if I may ask, what do you think Keys get from helping? And how are you being a good person? Clearly, you didn't try as hard as keys in terms of helping, and you ain't near as bad as keys the way people put him.

To Madcatatlas and Grooveriding, Keys is no body but a NV fanboy regardless of his work, his help.

Or do you actually see it differently?

I wasn't on about Keys... ever! As far as what Keys gets out of this goes, you need to ask him. Keys has never been the premise of my posts. I prefaced my comment with "no offense to Keys". Apparently, he took none either, since he's said nothing to that effect to me. You've just decided to be his self appointed champion. For some reason you are calling me out when I'm concerned with what causes this in the first place. Is the root of this sort of problem really only fixable one game at a time? Or, is the root of this problem noncompetitive business practices? Or is it not properly adhering to standards when coding these games? What is truly the best way to fix this sort of thing? In the end we, most of us here, pay the money for the hardware and for the games. If it's noncompetitive business practices we don't deserve that. If it's poorly coded games, then I'd like to know so I can avoid buying them. I'm not going to reward companies for putting out crap. If it's some flaw in the architecture or drivers, I'd like to know that as well.
 

Grooveriding

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Did anyone, including NV fanboys, said that the problem doesn't exists? You mentioned the things fanboys do, from which side? What exactly did they do to ground this thread? What benefit will you gain by posting unrelated pictures which leads to more fanboism(please don't tell me you don't have an idea what pics i'm talking about.) Do you know that Keys is helping you? Did you show appreciation towards those who tries to help?


I appreciate your sentiments. No offense to you, but this is not worth the energy of going down with.

The thread is about nvidia's issues with Dragon Age 2 and poor performance. Not the past however many posts otherwise.

I'm not opening up an esoteric conversation of the good done in this thread or itemizing behaviors of forum members that will do nothing more than incur breaking the forum rules and having to make negative statements about some of our members.


The thread is about nvidia's issues with Dragon Age 2 and poor performance.
 

Arkadrel

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What is truly the best way to fix this sort of thing?
AMD added a tessellation slider <.<
for when nvidia feels like helping game devs use tessellation.

And they do alot of quick driver releases, to fixes left and right.


In the end we, most of us here, pay the money for the hardware and for the games.
^ this, thats why amd added stuff like the A.I that gives better performance, without to much IQ loss, and added a tesselation slider. Not for the benchmarking... but for the actual gameplay for people that bought their product.


I dont think theres a way around this issue, other than driver guys being on their toes and quick to fix driver issues with new games released.

Nvidia will have a driver fix for the game issue, at some point, and DA2 will run fine on their cards too. Sometimes people slip up, it happends, even for nvidias driver team.
 
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bryanW1995

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So, it turns out that you actually didn't want any help with this problem nor did you ever want it brought to Nvidia's attention in order to address the situation. I should have known better. It's posts like these that show the colors bro. Way to go.

dude, chill out. that was hilarious! He was clearly using humor to diffuse a situation that had gotten out of hand.

btw, nv hq really is badass looking...

besides, he has never hidden his amd preference, just like you've never hidden your nvidia preference. the only person I'm confused about these days is apoppin. which side is he on? :confused: doesn't he know that you must pick sides here in VC&G???
 

bryanW1995

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Thank god i ran into this thread. I started running DA2 on my nvidia 470 and wasn't pleased with the performance i was getting.

I have a friend who wanted to buy my 470+cooler for very little loss to me. I was about to buy the 560 ti x2.

please tell me you're joking. jhh is probably going to firebomb groove's house if you're seriously not going to buy a couple of 560 ti's b/c of one internet rant thread.
 

Grooveriding

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please tell me you're joking. jhh is probably going to firebomb groove's house if you're seriously not going to buy a couple of 560 ti's b/c of one internet rant thread.

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I kid, I kid. JHH will install a farm of 480s under my home and blow me to the moon.
 

Seero

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I wasn't on about Keys... ever! As far as what Keys gets out of this goes, you need to ask him. Keys has never been the premise of my posts. I prefaced my comment with "no offense to Keys". Apparently, he took none either, since he's said nothing to that effect to me. You've just decided to be his self appointed champion. For some reason you are calling me out when I'm concerned with what causes this in the first place. Is the root of this sort of problem really only fixable one game at a time? Or, is the root of this problem noncompetitive business practices? Or is it not properly adhering to standards when coding these games? What is truly the best way to fix this sort of thing? In the end we, most of us here, pay the money for the hardware and for the games. If it's noncompetitive business practices we don't deserve that. If it's poorly coded games, then I'd like to know so I can avoid buying them. I'm not going to reward companies for putting out crap. If it's some flaw in the architecture or drivers, I'd like to know that as well.
You are the one who called me out my friend, page 6. I see your point of view on "companies sabotaging each other" theory, but it isn't helping. I can debate with you on your PoV, but I believe we should find out the cause first. Without knowing the cause, claiming a driver will fix it is FUD.

Why is it a FUD you may ask. Well since the cause is unknown, claiming that the solution lays in something that may have no impact on the issue will eventually create unnecessary panics. For example, HAWK2 performance on AMD, wasn't due to a bad driver, but more towards the amount of compute power on a very specific algorithm, tessellation. Jumping in and keep saying AMD's driver will fix it will only make AMD user feel unsupported by AMD. In DA2, it isn't about the driver. It may be due to some specific combination of Dx11 calls, which Nvidia's driver run into problems with. In this case, new drivers will fix it. The question is, are you 100&#37; sure that that is the case? If not, don't keep saying a new driver will fix it.

Say you believe in sabotages, and believe that AMD has inserted problematic codes into the game which cause Nvidia video card suffers. Do you have proofs? No. The purpose of that claim is to point your finger towards Nvidia, implicitly state that Nvidia is the one who started this trend, which is the ultimate claim that you also don't have proof on. Other than the fact that Nvidia video card doesn't perform well, do you have a more constructive case? If not, you can save that too.

Other than all the above, which you really don't have any forms of support in your argument, do you have anything with values to add? I don't know the cause, but I am eager to find out. If I do find out the cause, or even solutions, I will post them here. Chances of that is low, and Keys may have higher chances on that. Unfortunately, his findings are over shadows by FUDs. Grooveriding never appears to be pleased that someone is helping him, but are busy showing slides of what AMD uses to promote 6990. Coincidence?

After ignoring keys post of help, Grooveriding continues to spread FUDs like it is the end of humanity. Was the issue as bad as he made it sounded? No, but the fact that 580SLI should get much better performance than 20 FPS, I see it as a request for help. Those babies ain't cheap.

To my surprise, help isn't what Grooveriding seeks, and Keys sees it as taunts. Some stated that taunts are not explicit, keys sees it as implicit, which lead to my post, the one you quoted.

Again, you call me out by saying:

I think you might have missed some posts. Don't feel so persecuted. This is exactly how these threads go. Team A: is incompetent and team B: are cheaters. It just depends on your loyalty.
Not to my surprise, you said:
You've just decided to be his self appointed champion. For some reason you are calling me out when I'm concerned with what causes this in the first place.
If the intention of this thread still isn't clear to you, read the first post as Grooveriding has edited with 6990 promotions. Interestingly, the line
If anyone finds a fix, please advise. Was looking forward to this one.
look amusingly small, but it is there. Why are all those potential solution/aid wasn't on the first page? Coincidence? Edit: Well at least one of them is there, from Grooveriding, by Grooveriding.

Again, what is your purpose of your post other than the "company sabotaging trend will eventually kill gaming" theory? Look at the thread now and see what actually is. It clearly isn't a seek for help thread which I mis-understood as, but clearly nothing but another "Nvidia sucks" thread. Correct me if I am wrong.
 
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