I wasn't on about Keys... ever! As far as what Keys gets out of this goes, you need to ask him. Keys has never been the premise of my posts. I prefaced my comment with "no offense to Keys". Apparently, he took none either, since he's said nothing to that effect to me. You've just decided to be his self appointed champion. For some reason you are calling me out when I'm concerned with what causes this in the first place. Is the root of this sort of problem really only fixable one game at a time? Or, is the root of this problem noncompetitive business practices? Or is it not properly adhering to standards when coding these games? What is truly the best way to fix this sort of thing? In the end we, most of us here, pay the money for the hardware and for the games. If it's noncompetitive business practices we don't deserve that. If it's poorly coded games, then I'd like to know so I can avoid buying them. I'm not going to reward companies for putting out crap. If it's some flaw in the architecture or drivers, I'd like to know that as well.
You are the one who called me out my friend, page 6. I see your point of view on "companies sabotaging each other" theory, but it isn't helping. I can debate with you on your PoV, but I believe we should find out the cause first. Without knowing the cause, claiming a driver will fix it is FUD.
Why is it a FUD you may ask. Well since the cause is unknown, claiming that the solution lays in something that may have no impact on the issue will eventually create unnecessary panics. For example, HAWK2 performance on AMD, wasn't due to a bad driver, but more towards the amount of compute power on a very specific algorithm, tessellation. Jumping in and keep saying AMD's driver will fix it will only make AMD user feel unsupported by AMD. In DA2, it isn't about the driver. It may be due to some specific combination of Dx11 calls, which Nvidia's driver run into problems with. In this case, new drivers will fix it. The question is, are you 100% sure that that is the case? If not, don't keep saying a new driver will fix it.
Say you believe in sabotages, and believe that AMD has inserted problematic codes into the game which cause Nvidia video card suffers. Do you have proofs? No. The purpose of that claim is to point your finger towards Nvidia, implicitly state that Nvidia is the one who started this trend, which is the ultimate claim that you also don't have proof on. Other than the fact that Nvidia video card doesn't perform well, do you have a more constructive case? If not, you can save that too.
Other than all the above, which you really don't have any forms of support in your argument, do you have anything with values to add? I don't know the cause, but I am eager to find out. If I do find out the cause, or even solutions, I will post them here. Chances of that is low, and Keys may have higher chances on that. Unfortunately, his findings are over shadows by FUDs. Grooveriding never appears to be pleased that someone is helping him, but are busy showing slides of what AMD uses to promote 6990. Coincidence?
After ignoring keys post of help, Grooveriding continues to spread FUDs like it is the end of humanity. Was the issue as bad as he made it sounded? No, but the fact that 580SLI should get much better performance than 20 FPS, I see it as a request for help. Those babies ain't cheap.
To my surprise, help isn't what Grooveriding seeks, and Keys sees it as taunts. Some stated that taunts are not explicit, keys sees it as implicit, which lead to my post, the one you quoted.
Again, you call me out by saying:
I think you might have missed some posts. Don't feel so persecuted. This is exactly how these threads go. Team A: is incompetent and team B: are cheaters. It just depends on your loyalty.
Not to my surprise, you said:
You've just decided to be his self appointed champion. For some reason you are calling me out when I'm concerned with what causes this in the first place.
If the intention of this thread still isn't clear to you, read the first post as Grooveriding has edited with 6990 promotions. Interestingly, the line
If anyone finds a fix, please advise. Was looking forward to this one.
look amusingly small, but it is there. Why are all those potential solution/aid wasn't on the first page? Coincidence? Edit: Well at least one of them is there, from Grooveriding, by Grooveriding.
Again, what is your purpose of your post other than the "company sabotaging trend will eventually kill gaming" theory? Look at the thread now and see what actually is. It clearly isn't a seek for help thread which I mis-understood as, but clearly nothing but another "Nvidia sucks" thread. Correct me if I am wrong.