[fixed] Dragon Age 2 Low Performance on Nvidia Cards [fixed]

[Genx87]

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=188517&st=0 :thumbsdown:

http://forums.nvidia.com/index.php?showtopic=180638&st=100 :thumbsdown:

Just a few examples of months of fail.

Neither here nor there.

This thread is about the abysmal performance of nvidia in DX11 in Dragon Age 2. Not about their drivers as a whole.

Oh really? How many references have you made to Nvidia's drivers in this thread?
The post I responded to ended with "Nvidia driver fail" coming off a post whining about AMD being raked over the coals for batman AA.

 

[busydude]

On the original version of the game 18 months later AA still isnt available in the game for AMD users without trying to hack the game or on new cards using a blanket feature MLAA.

AMD users always had the option to turn on AA using CCC.. taking some performance hit.

 

[Grooveriding]

Oh really? How many references have you made to Nvidia's drivers in this thread?
The post I responded to ended with "Nvidia driver fail" coming off a post whining about AMD being raked over the coals for batman AA.

So your posts are what exactly ? The exact same thing with nvidia substituted for AMD ?

Or is there a point ?

 

[apoppin]

Lets see, Batman AA. The game has been out what, 18 months and still nothing from AMD? DA2 came out when? 2 days ago? If in 18 months DA2 still sucks on an Nvidia card feel free to point out how poor Nvidia support is in their drivers.

Have some of you been living in a cave for the past year?

Holy Batcave!

Batman Arkham Asylum fully supports in-game MSAA for Radeons in the GotY edition. Of course, to be fair, i am probably the only reviewer that uses the Game of the Year edition; it has been out for over a year. Just set MSAA in the control panel for Radeons.
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[Skurge]

Lets see, Batman AA. The game has been out what, 18 months and still nothing from AMD? DA2 came out when? 2 days ago? If in 18 months DA2 still sucks on an Nvidia card feel free to point out how poor Nvidia support is in their drivers.

Batman was playable without AA. DA2 is not playable period. I can see how the situations are the same. You could have AA in batman at any point, spoof the vendor ID, enable it in CCC. Lets see you try that with DA2 on your nVidia hardware. Its not the the game runs worse, its that the game isn't playable in the state it was intended.

PS: AMD gave AA code for batman, due to legal issues, it could only be incorporated in the GOTY edition.

You know what the funniest thing is, SLI still works great in the game.

 

[notty22]

Might this be the final straw for the OP, (and others ?) to AMD hardware, especially if one has the ways and means, why subject oneself to this injustice ! After the 10th repeating of Nvidia dropping the ball, failing, screwing the pooch, Nvidia is working on the problem, what else is there to say ? The game will be released tomorrow outside usa , according to Wikipedia, maybe Nvidia will have a 12th hour beta driver.

 

[Genx87]

Have some of you been living in a cave for the past year?

Holy Batcave!

Batman Arkham Asylum fully supports in-game MSAA for Radeons in the GotY edition. Of course, to be fair, i am probably the only reviewer that uses the Game of the Year edition; it has been out for over a year. Just set MSAA in the control panel for Radeons.
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Look a bit further down

 

[Skurge]

AMD users always had the option to turn on AA using CCC.. taking some performance hit.

At least the game looked good and was still playable, not so for DA2 + nvidia.

Really this is a doozy, you can't compare this to stuff like AA in starcraft or anything like that. Those were extra features that nvidia supported and AMD didnt. This is much worse the game doesnt work properly in its standard form. I remember something similar with AMD when The last remnant came out, 4870x2, 4890, 4870, 4850 were all pegged at the same FPS, but that game was still playable at max settings and that wasnt a AAA title.

 

[Grooveriding]

Batman was playable without AA. DA2 is not playable period. I can see how the situations are the same. You could have AA in batman at any point, spoof the vendor ID, enable it in CCC. Lets see you try that with DA2 on your nVidia hardware. Its not the the game runs worse, its that the game isn't playable in the state it was intended.

PS: AMD gave AA code for batman, due to legal issues, it could only be incorporated in the GOTY edition.

You know what the funniest thing is, SLI still works great in the game.

Exactly. Full DX11 Dragon Age 2 is playable on AMD, on nvidia it's a slideshow even on the best hardware.

The thread is not for arguing and tears. It is to discuss the problem and originally I made it in hopes someone may have found a fix.

But looking over at nvidia's forum seems it's a problem with nvidia's drivers or their hardware as some users there now are mentioning that tessellation is what is fubaring nvidia in this game.

 

[Genx87]

Might this be the final straw for the OP, (and others ?) to AMD hardware, especially if one has the ways and means, why subject oneself to this injustice ! After the 10th repeating of Nvidia dropping the ball, failing, screwing the pooch, Nvidia is working on the problem, what else is there to say ? The game will be released tomorrow outside usa , according to Wikipedia, maybe Nvidia will have a 12th hour beta driver.

We can hope.

 

[Genx87]

Exactly. Full DX11 Dragon Age 2 is playable on AMD, on nvidia it's a slideshow even on the best hardware.

The thread is not for arguing and tears. It is to discuss the problem and originally I made it in hopes someone may have found a fix.

But looking over at nvidia's forum seems it's a problem with nvidia's drivers or their hardware as some users there now are mentioning that tessellation is what is fubaring nvidia in this game.

What part of Keys telling you there will be a driver release that addresses this issue didnt you understand? After his post you piling it on provided what exactly?

 

[apoppin]

Look a bit further down

Down ? Where? Australia?

 

[Genx87]

Down ? Where? Australia?

Further down the thread. I know there is an edition that has it out of the box for AMD. But as you noted, you may be the only one to have played it

 

[Grooveriding]

What part of Keys telling you there will be a driver release that addresses this issue didnt you understand? After his post you piling it on provided what exactly?

Since you cannot contribute anything positive to the thread beyond diatribes about AMD vs NV, why continue to post in it ?

If the problem does not affect you because

a. you are fortunate enough to have an AMD card and it plays okay you

or

b. you don't play the game

There is no reason to post then I would think if you can only resort to negative spam.

 

[Skurge]

Might this be the final straw for the OP, (and others ?) to AMD hardware, especially if one has the ways and means, why subject oneself to this injustice ! After the 10th repeating of Nvidia dropping the ball, failing, screwing the pooch, Nvidia is working on the problem, what else is there to say ? The game will be released tomorrow outside usa , according to Wikipedia, maybe Nvidia will have a 12th hour beta driver.

I don't think most (sane?) people would dump their hardware cause one game isn't working right yet.

If i was in that situation, i'd be pissed at the company, but I wouldn't impulsively drop their hardware. It happens to both sides enough times that you might as well just live with it. For all we know the same thing could happen to AMD in the DX11 version of Crysis 2.

 

[Genx87]

Since you cannot contribute anything positive to the thread beyond diatribes about AMD vs NV, why continue to post in it ?

If the problem does not affect you because

a. you are fortunate enough to have an AMD card and it plays okay you

or

b. you don't play the game

There is no reason to post then I would think if you can only resort to negative spam.

I am asking the same question of you and you created this thread lol

Cant answer my question about what purpose you piling it on after Keys gave you information about a driver release that is supposed to address performance issues in this game?

Wait until the driver release, if it sucks, continue complaining.

 

[3DVagabond]

I do. Key tried his best to toward opinions/problems they have to Nvidia. What else do people expect? Where is the thank? Do people think Keys got 10k a month for doing that?

Interestingly, many ain't looking for a solution, but an opportunity to bash Nvidia. When SC2 came out, all AMD cards doesn't support AA. Instead of bashing AMD's incapability to release a driver in time, they accuse Nvidia for blocking AMD from using AA (search here in this forum.) Now DA2 came out and all Fermi based card experience high tax while running the game that never happened in any other Dx11 games before. They accuse Nvidia for their incapability to release a driver in time. Funny how they believed that the game is glitch free just because 6990 + its latest driver rocks it hard.

Mind you that AMD users can't even run the game without the latest driver. Ninja code before the game release as they have exclusive access? Non-standard API calls? Dx11 bugs? Were those possability mentioned here? No, just plain Nvidia suck posts.

Seriously, we have keys who tries to get a solution for people, then we have others who basically saids nothing but "Nvidia sucks".

Where is the taunt? We have lots of sad Nvidia owners who can't get a reasonable FPS, but all they get in this thread by those Nvidia hater is "Nvidia sucks" and how they have a friend who owns a 6990 rocks and link images indicating that 6990 rocks. Help? Nope. Trolling? Big time. Intimadating to those who tries very hard to get solutions for people who he doesn't know, passing inforation to from mute to deafs? Big time.

I think you might have missed some posts. Don't feel so persecuted. This is exactly how these threads go. Team A: is incompetent and team B: are cheaters. It just depends on your loyalty.

There is no difference between this game and HAWX2, except that the shoe is on the other foot. Rather than pointing fingers, we, as consumers, should be concerned how possible shenanigans like this effect us. There's just been a major shake up in upper management at AMD. This could very well not be your mother's AMD anymore. If both AMD and nVidia start sabotaging games against the other, we are the losers. The ones who spend their money and deserve to not have competitors detract from our investment to try and force us to buy their products.

 

[Grooveriding]

I am asking the same question of you and you created this thread lol

Cant answer my question about what purpose you piling it on after Keys gave you information about a driver release that is supposed to address performance issues in this game?

Wait until the driver release, if it sucks, continue complaining.

We're discussing why there is the discrepancy and what is causing it. It's not 'piling it on'

Don't worry Genx, nv has a strong back, this is not going to break the company because they have issues in Dragon Age 2.

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion! :thumbsup:

 

[apoppin]

Further down the thread. I know there is an edition that has it out of the box for AMD. But as you noted, you may be the only one to have played it

i wasn't cheap and spent $5 for it on a Steam Sale. It evens the field when benching GeForce vs Radeons in the game.

And i think you meant look further ^UP^ the thread - above your response to me.
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This DA II issue somehow doesn't bother me one bit; both sides will fix their drivers soon enough.

In the meantime, the solution is simple - just buy two sets of Graphics cards and HDDs. i almost never have issues with playing ANY of my games (unless it is a GfWL edition).

 

[n0x1ous]

I don't think most (sane?) people would dump their hardware cause one game isn't working right yet.

If i was in that situation, i'd be pissed at the company, but I wouldn't impulsively drop their hardware. It happens to both sides enough times that you might as well just live with it. For all we know the same thing could happen to AMD in the DX11 version of Crysis 2.

I think you know he is referring to more than just this. Thats why he said final straw

 

[Genx87]

We're discussing why there is the discrepancy and what is causing it. It's not 'piling it on'

Don't worry Genx, nv has a strong back, this is not going to break the company because they have issues in Dragon Age 2.

Thanks for your contribution to the discussion! :thumbsup:

Uh, isnt it obvious? A driver issue. Keys addressed it and you continued to yap about poor drivers and support from Nvidia. Why attempt to mask your discontent for Nvidia behind a driver issue in a game that was released 2 days ago?

I dont really care about Nvidia's back. They are more than capable of growing their business without a cheerleader. I think AMD can do the same, but you seem to think differently.

 

[Grooveriding]

Uh, isnt it obvious? A driver issue. Keys addressed it and you continued to yap about poor drivers and support from Nvidia. Why attempt to mask your discontent for Nvidia behind a driver issue in a game that was released 2 days ago?

I dont really care about Nvidia's back. They are more than capable of growing their business without a cheerleader. I think AMD can do the same, but you seem to think differently.

Completely uncalled for and more negative spam as I said earlier.

I think the problem is too many posters convinced everyone is on a side and hiding it just because they are.

Take off the rose coloured glasses.

The thread is about the issues with NV and Dragon Age 2, I'm sorry if you feel continued discussion of it is unwarranted once Keys enters the thread and states 'NV IS WORKING ON IT'

Guess we should of all shut up immediately and headed back to our green altars and burned some solder in front of an effigy of JHH.

 

[Keysplayr]

Uh, isnt it obvious? A driver issue. Keys addressed it and you continued to yap about poor drivers and support from Nvidia. Why attempt to mask your discontent for Nvidia behind a driver issue in a game that was released 2 days ago?

I dont really care about Nvidia's back. They are more than capable of growing their business without a cheerleader. I think AMD can do the same, but you seem to think differently.

Dude, it's fine. Don't worry about him. Get back OT before you are made the target of a mod. I appreciate your sentiments though. :thumbsup:

 

[badb0y]

Uh, isnt it obvious? A driver issue. Keys addressed it and you continued to yap about poor drivers and support from Nvidia. Why attempt to mask your discontent for Nvidia behind a driver issue in a game that was released 2 days ago?

I dont really care about Nvidia's back. They are more than capable of growing their business without a cheerleader. I think AMD can do the same, but you seem to think differently.

It's obvious that he is frustrated, he has 900$ worth of cards that aregetting owned by AMD's mid-range I would be upset too so chill out we all know both nVidia and AMD are working to get the best experience for their users.

 

[Skurge]

Groove, How does SLI work for you?