First GTX 670 review(s) up (tt & oc.net) * TT OC review added*

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

What if amd can't afford to make enough by selling 7950s fr $300? They would rather release a Oced sky and sell fr more

Yields are already much better than they were in Jan. Right now AMD has less yield issues than NVIDIA, despite their somewhat bigger die. I think manufacturing costs and yields will be high enough by the end of the year that we'll be able to see the HD 7950 pop up for $300 or under $320.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Hmmm 670 doesn't make sense. It is literally only 5% slower than the 680. I wonder if this will play out after the NDA goes up. It is pointless to get a 680 if this review is true.

IMO this review is unlikely to be true

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

The 3 GB 7970 will stay at its place,we will probably see a 399$ 1.5 GB 7970 soon.

Nope.avi

You can't have a product that's overall inferior (at stock) than your competitors' and sell it for a 20% higher price. If you do that, you'll get almost no sales except from fanboys (which make a small amount of an already small market).

The GTX 670 is as fast as the HD 7970, so AMD WILL have to lower the price to $400 at least.

 

[Don Karnage]

Nope.avi

You can't have a product that's overall inferior (at stock) than your competitors' and sell it for a 20% higher price. If you do that, you'll get almost no sales except from fanboys (which make a small amount of an already small market).

The GTX 670 is as fast as the HD 7970, so AMD WILL have to lower the price to $400 at least.

They have too or face no sales

 

[aaksheytalwar]

No point concluding until the nda is lifted

 

[blastingcap]

Nope.avi

You can't have a product that's overall inferior (at stock) than your competitors' and sell it for a 20% higher price. If you do that, you'll get almost no sales except from fanboys (which make a small amount of an already small market).

The GTX 670 is as fast as the HD 7970, so AMD WILL have to lower the price to $400 at least.

Let's wait for more reviews. TT benched without AA and AF and isn't known as the best review site for a reason. I am expecting a gtx 670 to be roughly in-between a 7950 and 7970, stock vs stock vs stock.

 

[Silverforce11]

No i'm confident its true.

Beefed up pcb with triple coolers? That really screams for the built in dynamic turbo to crank the clock speed up the to the max.

Recall gtx680 launch, some reviewers had theirs turbo to 1.2ghz. On a reference board.

Lets assume this gtx670 pcb turbo to >1.2ghz, it's going to approach gtx680 performance for sure.

 

[Jaydip]

Nope.avi

You can't have a product that's overall inferior (at stock) than your competitors' and sell it for a 20% higher price. If you do that, you'll get almost no sales except from fanboys (which make a small amount of an already small market).

The GTX 670 is as fast as the HD 7970, so AMD WILL have to lower the price to $400 at least.

7970 is still faster than 670.

 

[Don Karnage]

7970 is still faster than 670.

By what 2%? Would you pay 70 dollars more for 2% ?

 

[wand3r3r]

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Thanks, added 10 (max per post) to the original post.

 

[SirPauly]

Hmmm 670 doesn't make sense. It is literally only 5% slower than the 680. I wonder if this will play out after the NDA goes up. It is pointless to get a 680 if this review is true.

Kind of reminds of the points about how close the performance was with the GTX 570 and HD 6970 and were around 349 to 369 when compared to the 499 GTX 580.

Enjoy these kinds of views then defending premiums strongly!

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Let's wait for more reviews. TT benched without AA and AF and isn't known as the best review site for a reason. I am expecting a gtx 670 to be roughly in-between a 7950 and 7970, stock vs stock vs stock.

AA and AF losses from AMD and NVIDIA are similar at up to 1920x1200, which is the target resolution for a single of these cards. It's when you get to 2560x1600 and 5760x1200 that AMD has a significant advantage because of more VRAM, higher memory bandwidth and how their architectures work.

I highly, highly doubt AA and AF are gonna change the story, especially given we already know clock scaling isn't GK104's strongest suite. In this case, lower clock scaling works completely in our advantage.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

7970 is still faster than 670.

Not sure if serious.

No, they're identical... unless you want to play the benchmark nitpicking game.

Look at the small difference in performance between the GTX 680 and 670. Look at the fact that the GTX 680 is ~8% faster than the HD 7970. There's your answer.

 

[blastingcap]

Roadmap said nothing about 7970 1.5GB, but there was supposed to be a 7950 1.5GB launching by now. I haven't seen anything about it since Feb., so maybe it's canceled.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Kind of reminds of the points about how close the performance was with the GTX 570 and HD 6970 and were around 349 to 369 when compared to the 499 GTX 580.

Enjoy these kinds of views then defending premiums strongly!

This

 

[Zebo]

7970 is still faster than 670.

Not according to tt.

I just checked again and does anyone think Metro bench is odd? Seems like AMD had that game at other places. by bigger margins.

 

[blastingcap]

I don't like BS News much, but some of you may find this article interesting (talking about how GTX 670's short PCB is like half of GTX 690's PCB):

http://www.brightsideofnews.com/new...cally-reduces-geforce-gtx-670-board-size.aspx

 

[Jaydip]

By what 2%? Would you pay 70 dollars more for 2% ?

Not sure if serious.

No, they're identical... unless you want to play the benchmark nitpicking game.

Look at the small difference in performance between the GTX 680 and 670. Look at the fact that the GTX 680 is ~8% faster than the HD 7970. There's your answer.

Don't base ur estimates on TT alone.Wait for reputable review sites.

 

[Jaydip]

Not according to tt.

I just checked again and does anyone think Metro bench is odd? Seems like AMD had that game at other places. by bigger margins.

I don't give much credence to TT.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

Don't base ur estimates on TT alone.Wait for reputable review sites.

With this review we already know how it does directly against the GTX 680, and we already know how the GTX 680 does against the HD 7970.

So... I doubt the story is gonna change. Unless NVIDIA decides to get greedy and price it at $450, of course, in which case they suck.

 

[Crap Daddy]

The 680 is on average 15% over the 7970 at 1080p so it's perfectly plausible that the 670 will be on par with the 7970.

 

[LOL_Wut_Axel]

The 680 is on average 15% over the 7970 at 1080p so it's perfectly plausible that the 670 will be on par with the 7970.

It's a bit less than 10% faster, but yeah.

The GTX 680 is too small of an improvement over the 670, which is how it gets away with being the same speed as the HD 7970.

Also, I just checked images from the review and many of the charts are testing either with 4xAA or 8xAA. I don't know where these arguments about TweakTown not using AA come from.

 

[toyota]

The 680 is on average 15% over the 7970 at 1080p so it's perfectly plausible that the 670 will be on par with the 7970.

more like 12% overall and the 7970 is faster than the gtx680 in Metro 2033, AvP, Deus Ex and Warhead according to most reviews.

 

[aaksheytalwar]

The 680 is on average 15% over the 7970 at 1080p so it's perfectly plausible that the 670 will be on par with the 7970.

Wrong. Even without aa it is a sub 10% diff. With big aa it is 5-7% diff, id both are at stock. I'd both are Oced they tie. If both are Oced 7970 wins 1600p

 

[Crap Daddy]

Wrong. Even without aa it is a sub 10% diff. With big aa it is 5-7% diff, id both are at stock. I'd both are Oced they tie. If both are Oced 7970 wins 1600p

Wasn't talking about 1600p and OC. Take a look: