First GTX 670 review(s) up (tt & oc.net) * TT OC review added*

[3DVagabond]

Nice find, OP. Tweaktown did this with the gtx680, too, saying they couldn't get Nvidia to give them an official sample due to miscommunication. Maybe TT is now the go-to place for pre-NDA reviews of NV cards, haha.

One thing I dislike is how they apparently tested without AA/AF, but all in all it looks like the gtx670 is at the upper end of the "5-15% faster than stock 7950" I had expected. This thing will sell like hotcakes at $400 and might be in even shorter demand than the gtx680, driving the street price to ~$450.

Overclocked vs overclocked it looks like it'd still be faster than the 7950, even with the 7950's massive oc headroom.

So shall we expect something like this?

Newegg prices:

680 - 500
7970 + Three for Free - 450
670 - 450
7950 + Three for Free - 400
7870 - 350
7850 - 250

At least now we know why AMD dropped prices so much on 79xx without dropping them much on 78xx. NV's gtx660 won't launch for another 4-6 months from the rumors I've heard. Based on these results, AMD ought to thank their lucky stars for that delay.

I don't disagree with anything you say here except the last sentence. (OK, possibly the 670 price?)

It has nothing to do with luck that AMD can jump to newer tech faster than nVidia. They've been doing it consistently now for quite some time.

Now, back to that 670 price.

I'm hoping it comes in @ $400 and performs as well as the review suggests. (Tweaktown isn't exactly a AAA site, IMO. I don't see the drivers listed, for example.) If it does we could see lower pricing on the 7950, which could also reduce the 7870. The "midrange' cards need to be cheaper. That's where most of us spend our money. That's where the savings would be the most helpful. No offense to those who buy bleeding edge hardware, but if it's too expensive buy something cheaper. If there is nothing cheaper, then we all are screwed. Right now we're all feeling pretty screwed.

 

[skipsneeky2]

Sometimes going through these threads is a chore...

GTX 670 looks nice, if they can make a smaller unit (ie not the hanging HSF) and keep it relatively cool I got a few PCs I can switch to it.

Is the price going to be $400 or more towards the $420 point? I think I can swing $50 for my friend to up his price cap to $400...which I'd do for such a great performing card.

AMD lost another round - bad.

Asus will make their Direct cu 2 design in a smaller package,maybe a triple slot design but it will work.

 

[blastingcap]

I don't disagree with anything you say here except the last sentence. (OK, possibly the 670 price?)

It has nothing to do with luck that AMD can jump to newer tech faster than nVidia. They've been doing it consistently now for quite some time.

Now, back to that 670 price.

I'm hoping it comes in @ $400 and performs as well as the review suggests. (Tweaktown isn't exactly a AAA site, IMO. I don't see the drivers listed, for example.) If it does we could see lower pricing on the 7950, which could also reduce the 7870. The "midrange' cards need to be cheaper. That's where most of us spend our money. That's where the savings would be the most helpful. No offense to those who buy bleeding edge hardware, but if it's too expensive buy something cheaper. If there is nothing cheaper, then we all are screwed. Right now we're all feeling pretty screwed.

I think NV may well price it at $400 but the retailers will price gouge because they know it's such a hot item and drive it up to $450, sort of like what happened to the 58xx cards a few years ago.

 

[tviceman]

I think NV may well price it at $400 but the retailers will price gouge because they know it's such a hot item and drive it up to $450, sort of like what happened to the 58xx cards a few years ago.

If Nvidia's yields are as bad as Charlie says, there should be at least 2 to 1 availability of the gtx670. So, in other words, 70. There will be 70 gtx670's at launch.

 

[3DVagabond]

If Nvidia's yields are as bad as Charlie says, there should be at least 2 to 1 availability of the gtx670. So, in other words, a 70. There will be 70 gtx670's at launch.

This could be a model that they will actually have GPU's for. Hopefully?

 

[Keysplayr]

If Nvidia's yields are as bad as Charlie says, there should be at least 2 to 1 availability of the gtx670. So, in other words, 70. There will be 70 gtx670's at launch.

Just ignore Charlie, like I mean forever. Even if he praises Nvidia like the second coming of who knows what with rainbow cookies and sugar plums fly out of his arse, ignore him.

 

[Stoneburner]

Just ignore Charlie, like I mean forever. Even if he praises Nvidia like the second coming of who knows what with rainbow cookies and sugar plums fly out of his arse, ignore him.

He's been correct about Kepler though, no?

On topic, if this is $400, this is MINE MINE MINE! IF it's $450, I'm not upgrading until the 8000's .

 

[Keysplayr]

He's been correct about Kepler though, no?

On topic, if this is $400, this is MINE MINE MINE! IF it's $450, I'm not upgrading until the 8000's .

Doesn't matter. Throw enough Sh*t against the wall and all that. Just safer to ignore the gent.

And yes 400.00 would be the right price point for this card IMHO.

 

[Zebo]

If Nvidia's yields are as bad as Charlie says, there should be at least 2 to 1 availability of the gtx670. So, in other words, 70. There will be 70 gtx670's at launch.

lolz good one. But Charlie is FOS. Bats about .333, while good in baseball it sucks as an analyst. People are buying 680s in droves and will do same for 670.

 

[tviceman]

Just ignore Charlie, like I mean forever. Even if he praises Nvidia like the second coming of who knows what with rainbow cookies and sugar plums fly out of his arse, ignore him.

lolz good one. But Charlie is FOS. Bats about .333, while good in baseball it sucks as an analyst. People are buying 680s in droves and will do same for 670.

I was just trying to make heart of the supply situation. Trust me, I hang on Charlie's every word like a fat guy hanging on to gymnastic rings. If the 670 == a hd7970 performance for $400, then yeah it's another home run for Nvidia.

 

[Keysplayr]

Trust me, I hang on Charlie's every word like a fat guy hanging on to gymnastic rings.

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! This gave me such a visual. Thanks for the laugh!!
Can I sig this?

And yes absolute home run for Nvidia. 670 looks to be a beautiful performer.

 

[tviceman]

LMFAOOOOOOOOOOOO!!! This gave me such a visual. Thanks for the laugh!!
Can I sig this?

And yes absolute home run for Nvidia. 670 looks to be a beautiful performer.

Everything I say is fair game for laughs, signatures, or especially ridicule!

 

[3DVagabond]

I was just trying to make heart of the supply situation. Trust me, I hang on Charlie's every word like a fat guy hanging on to gymnastic rings. If the 670 == a hd7970 performance for $400, then yeah it's another home run for Nvidia.

If the 670 = 7970 then it will also = 680 once the cards are O/C'd. I don't think we'll find that this will be the case after they are released. Remember, this is an unofficial review.

If we aren't supposed to listen Charlie then why is it OK to listen to someone who has lifted his schtick almost word for word. LOL

 

[tviceman]

If the 670 = 7970 then it will also = 680 once the cards are O/C'd. I don't think we'll find that this will be the case after they are released.

Most gtx570's can equal gtx580's. Most hd6950's can equal hd6970's. Most hd5850's can equal hd5870's. I am failing to find anything unusual here. A gtx680 is about 10% faster than an hd7970. If a gtx670 is 98% the speed of an hd7970, then it ends up about 12-13% slower than a gtx680. Seems about right, and I am still failing to find anything unusual here. The gtx670's ability to catch up at 2560p might be because the gtx680 needs more memory bandwidth.

 

[RussianSensation]

Gainward GTX460 GLH (one of NV's partners):

- 4-phase VRM circuitry.
- ~320mm^2 die (some say it was closer to 340).
- 2x6-pin power connectors
- 256-bit bus
$229

Nvidia GTS450 $129 card PCB:

GTX670 $400 card PCB:

- 294mm^2 die
- 256-bit bus
- 2x6-pin power connectors

GF104 mid-range $229 ---> GK104 mid-range $400

Why do I have a feeling we just got trolled because GK104 keeps up with 7970.....

On the positive side, GTX670 will be epic for micro-ITX builds.

 

[3DVagabond]

Most gtx570's can equal gtx580's. Most hd6950's can equal hd6970's. Most hd5850's can equal hd5870's. I am failing to find anything unusual here. A gtx680 is about 10% faster than an hd7970. If a gtx670 is 98% the speed of an hd7970, then it ends up about 12-13% slower than a gtx680. Seems about right, and I am still failing to find anything unusual here. The gtx670's ability to catch up at 2560p might be because the gtx680 needs more memory bandwidth.

Those cards aren't equal once both are O/C'd. The 7970 is equal to the 680 both are O/C'd. you're moving the goalposts here.

 

[Zebo]

I was just trying to make heart of the supply situation. Trust me, I hang on Charlie's every word like a fat guy hanging on to gymnastic rings. If the 670 == a hd7970 performance for $400, then yeah it's another home run for Nvidia.

lol quite a visual. gj,. Lets just say charlie predicted nv going broke with fermi, as in they where loosing $100s of dollars per chip meanwhile the had record profits. his predictions all sound eerily familiar is all.

 

[Zebo]

Sure but most ppl buy on performance/$ not what chip looks like, size of PCB otherwise that massive voodoo card would still be selling best

Is this what U want? happy now

 

[bxcloud]

http://www.overclock.net/t/1253432/gigabyte-gtx-670-oc-version-hands-on

This thing is faster than my GTX 680, I wonder if should of waited 1 week. o.o

 

[3DVagabond]

Is this what U want? happy now

No, I prefer the modern version of it.

 

[Silverforce11]

Another Gigabyte Windforce on the street. Note the high Turbo 1059 matching the gtx680.

Add in the better custom pcb and cooling, higher potential dynamic turbo, if a ref gtx680 can hit 1.2ghz, these things prolly should easily do 1.2ghz or more. custom 670 > reference 680.

So, gtx670 not only smashes 79xx, it also beats the 680 in a) value and b) power use and probably c) higher turbo OCs and overall performance!!

 

[Silverforce11]

GF104 mid-range $229 ---> GK104 mid-range $400

Why do I have a feeling we just got trolled because GK104 keeps up with 7970.....

We got trolled when AMD decided to sell their mid-range Tahiti chip at $550. Bet you NV had a glitter in their eye when they saw that... gives them more reason to rape consumers.

 

[Destiny]

Another Gigabyte Windforce on the street. Note the high Turbo 1059 matching the gtx680.

Add in the better custom pcb and cooling, higher potential dynamic turbo, if a ref gtx680 can hit 1.2ghz, these things prolly should easily do 1.2ghz or more. custom 670 > reference 680.

So, gtx670 not only smashes 79xx, it also beats the 680 in a) value and b) power use and probably c) higher turbo OCs and overall performance!!

My wallet is definately not safe this month...:'(

 

[aaksheytalwar]

Any more reviews out?

 

[skipsneeky2]

My wallet is definately not safe this month...:'(

LOL i hate temptation so much,i just purchased a gtx570 and hell the gtx670 already is looking like a interesting purchase for me.:awe:

Man this generation is loaded with interesting products but not at the right prices so i doubt it would be in my pc till it retails for $300 ,which might be a year or two,by then the 800 series will be here.