fired from target because of racism

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Vic

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Originally posted by: BatmanNate
I like your sig, Vic. :)
Thanks. It's a quote from 1984 by Eric Blair aka George Orwell. It is true without question or what do you think revisionist history is?
 

chrisms

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Originally posted by: Amused
Religious bigotry is not racism.

Taken from dictionary.com:

race
n.
1. A local geographic or global human population distinguished as a more or less distinct group by genetically transmitted physical characteristics.
2. A group of people united or classified together on the basis of common history, nationality, or geographic distribution: the German race.
3. A genealogical line; a lineage.
4. Humans considered as a group.
5. Biology.
a. An interbreeding, usually geographically isolated population of organisms differing from other populations of the same species in the frequency of hereditary traits. A race that has been given formal taxonomic recognition is known as a subspecies.
b. A breed or strain, as of domestic animals.
6. A distinguishing or characteristic quality, such as the flavor of a wine.
 

austin316

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Originally posted by: goblue420
get a good lawyer.....you could never hafta work again :)

I agree. Make sure you state that you no longer feel comfortable holding any job because you feel you will be rediculed and attacked just based on your religuous beliefs.
 

CasioTech

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Originally posted by: Marlin1975
What did HR say was the listing of why they let you go?? i.e. What are they going to say was the reason you were let go..




They said poor work performance, basically, with reasons such as employeez complaining and customers complaining, not any particular instances. the main thing is that target has a 90 day learning period in which the employee gets to learn about the store and the starff aand gets performance reviews along the way after 90 dyas the employer or employee can decide if they want to leave or be terminated I in about 3 weeks of work or a little more, could not have learned the store well enough to be able to planogram items and do expert zoning or help customers to the best of my ability, they never, never, never gave me any advice along the way, or anything to tel lme that I have to improve in such and such areas. Wehn I found out how much everyone hates me and that they claim that I do badly or poorly, I was terminated. I think there is something wrong in that, even if he claims that he wasn't racist, then why wasn't I given any shots to become a better employee? But he is racist, and anytime he looks at me, it's pure hatred- oh and that time that we sold ps1's in bulk the sony guy came over and said that sony will cut target off if they find out that you are selling in bulk- when I told him that he wantted to kill me, and there was another time when we took back returned camerea's (digital) and Chris forced me to sell it as new I said you can't sell open items as new again he wanted to strangle me

 

Originally posted by: DurocShark
In other news, jews boycott all target stores.

Target barely notices.

;)
In other news, Target actually sees an INCREASE in profits during Jew boycott. Coupon use and clearance purchases slip.

<-- Jewish. :)
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: freebee
Your state usually has a labor office where you can obtain legal help and advice. They will help you obtain compensation from the company. You may also want to seek a private attorney if you wish to file civil suits against the individuals involved.

the state isn't going to help you obtain damages from the company. they would fine the company in a criminal matter, and they'd keep the money. you're going to have to retain your own lawyer if you want any money out of it
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: DurocShark
In other news, jews boycott all target stores.

Target barely notices.

;)
Now if High School Dropouts, Welfare recipients and people with an IQ under 95 did Target would go under.
 

kaizersose

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casiotech,
i would be very curios to know how Target corporate handles this affair. it would be very much appreciated if you could keep us all updated on how it goes.
also, remmber that this guy is the manager of a target store and i doubt he will ever amount to anything more (especially after the shenanigan (sp?) he pulled with you). you on the otherhand, are probably headed for a bright future and a well paying job. when you are 40 and on a nice vacation with your family, this guy will still be cleaning up some 8 year old's puke off of a linoleum floor.
 

CasioTech

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btw I have a second to say that target sells everything that's used as new or returns as new if they could package them properly. BB wouldn't do that. I got my rough draft that I will post when I finish it.
 
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If things are as you describe them, then I suspect that Chris will be hating you even more in the very near future.
 

narzy

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I think we all need to hear the other side of the story before we can pass judgment, your all keen to taking casiotech's story to be the hole truth and feel target should be slaughtered. I remember a wile back when I had DON'T DEAL WITH CASIOTECH in my sig because this individual wouldn't pay for a logo someone made for him. that aside, angered, frustrated, or Irate ex-employee's often exagerate stories. I'm not saying casiotech is lieing or his experiance wasn't a bad one, I'm saying take it with a spoon of salt...

also Casiotech did you ever object to being called those names? did you ever tell them it wasn't appreciated, once you took it to management and saw nothing was happening why didn't you take it to corp? or even law enforcement and file a complaint, or your local department of labor? tho racism and bigotry based on race, religion, sex, (and the other one I forget) is Illegal, it is the victim that must take the first steps to curve the behavior and or report it.
 

Lucky

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hink we all need to hear the other side of the story before we can pass judgment, your all keen to taking casiotech's story to be the hole truth and feel target should be slaughtered. I remember a wile back when I had DON'T DEAL WITH CASIOTECH in my sig because this individual wouldn't pay for a logo someone made for him. that aside, angered, frustrated, or Irate ex-employee's often exagerate stories. I'm not saying casiotech is lieing or his experiance wasn't a bad one, I'm saying take it with a spoon of salt...


hah! My first thought upon reading this thread. We haven't heard the whole story, and I don't believe his.
 

MustangSVT

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Originally posted by: narzy
I think we all need to hear the other side of the story before we can pass judgment, your all keen to taking casiotech's story to be the hole truth and feel target should be slaughtered. I remember a wile back when I had DON'T DEAL WITH CASIOTECH in my sig because this individual wouldn't pay for a logo someone made for him. that aside, angered, frustrated, or Irate ex-employee's often exagerate stories. I'm not saying casiotech is lieing or his experiance wasn't a bad one, I'm saying take it with a spoon of salt...

also Casiotech did you ever object to being called those names? did you ever tell them it wasn't appreciated, once you took it to management and saw nothing was happening why didn't you take it to corp? or even law enforcement and file a complaint, or your local department of labor? tho racism and bigotry based on race, religion, sex, (and the other one I forget) is Illegal, it is the victim that must take the first steps to curve the behavior and or report it.


interesting. care to explain Casiotech?
 

CasioTech

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Dude, you got it the wrong way, someone wouldn't pay for I logo that I made for them remember mrcodedude or someone. I could understnad why you would say this, Narzy, I remember your sig, but you approached this like a gentle man, but lucky :(. I got my story typed and ready to show you this is as much as I could really remmeber, and I was pressed for time because I already submitted it to the Corporate HQ, and the district target, no one has got back to me yet, I am curious to see what they have to say also I am not the best employee, but I was learning, and I didn't deserve the treatment, here is the story. I am contacting my local EEOC, but I heard that they are underfunded and backed up or something and it could take a long time until they investigate, so it seems like a no win situation, my harrasment attourney said that before he could help me, they have to do an investigation, even still, I want to ge t heard and would like to hit the local newspapers.
 

CasioTech

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Your 90 day learning period.
The first 90 days are when you learn your responsibilities and get acquainted with your fellow team members. It?s a chance for you and Target to see whether you?re happy with your job and whether your team leader is happy with your performance. If not, either you, or Target may decide your employment shouldn?t continue beyond this 90 day learning period. - Target Stores (non-exempt) handbook.
On 8/7/03, I was hired by Rachel (the HR manager of Target 1074). I did my training, 3 days with my trainer, and learned the suttleties of doing zoning, strays, and all aspects of my sales job. I was hired to do electronics dept. Sales floor. Since my start, I have been the only new hire on the sales floor (the other three new hires were all hired to be cashiers). I was exploited by all the other workers that were on the sales floor because I was new. One worker was called Daria- she would find me literally every minute, and ask me what I was doing, what I had already done, and what I have yet to do. I was told to make my isles look impeccable and I always did, yet when I had a single item out of order, I would get screamed upon. The funny thing was that Daria?s isles didn?t look half as organized as mine, probably because she spend all her time watching over me, instead of doing her own work, and when I finished, I went and had to finish her work. This same incident happened with other co-workers such as Richard, when I confronted Richard about it saying to him ?Why do I have to finish your work?? he replies ?What are you going to do about it?? and wanted to start fighting with me. Rodney, another employee, witnessed this and said ?Back off, it?s not worth it?. Incidents like these happened to me almost everyday, but I wanted to keep the job and enjoy the benefits of the job such as working with the guests and being appreciated by them for my help so I dealt with these problems at work. My schedule was constantly messed up from week to week and Chris William?s (African American), the sales floor supervisor, got angry when he had to go and change it. Little things like these built up Chris? hatred for me which I will detail later. When Rachel left to open a store at a different location, Chris took over a lot of her responsibility of HR, hiring and firing employees, schedules, etc. until Target would get another HR. This was about two weeks ago. Yesterday, 8/28/03, I was Terminated from Target by Chris William?s around, 4:30pm. I was brought into a lounge and my performance was evalutated by Chris and another level 3 named Kelly, who did not do a lot of work with me, since he was on vacation- but from the times that he did work together he said that I did very well. I was told that my performance was ?poor? and no reasons in particular were given to me about my so called ?poor performance? other than, all the other employees and guests are complaining about me. No details whatsoever about my performance have been disclosed. He said that it was all confidential. Chris said ?You are terminated and I won?t reverse my decision?, saying hearsay about all my co workers in the process. He said other disparaging comments such as ?You are slow, and not up to Targets Superior work force, you do not like working with people and you are a liar, all you care about are your breaks and lunches, instead of learning- you are just not getting it.? I said how can someone not get it, if I needed extra help, I should have been told about any issues about my performance but I was never told anything and commended many times by other managers and co-workers. I am not lazy but am among one of the quickest workers there, and I am new and still learning much. I never have an LRT, a device used to assist in finding where items go, and am forced to zone and put away strays by finding the labels on the shelves that match where the items go and putting the item there which is a very slow and tedious process, but that doesn?t slow me down, I still get my dept. finished and even go help other departments. I am great with guests, and help everyone earnestly, these are all lies that Chris said about me. As for asking about my lunches and breaks is because I was deprived of breaks and many times took my lunches near the stores closing, only when I begged for them because I was never scheduled for them. Then Chris says that Richard and Jarrod and Tameika and others say I am a bad worker. Richard (African American), became my worst enemy in the store because of a week ago, in front of a few team members, he says to me ?You?re a Jew aren?t you- you don?t need to work, your parents are probably making you work, figures?? I tried to be casual about it and not say anything, because I didn?t want to blow anything out of proportion and make him hate me even more by telling a manager or get him suspended or lose his job because I was worried for my life- Richard already tried to fight me in the store once in the incident I spoke of earlier. Later Richard continued calling me ?Moses, Jewbagel, and Bagel boy? just to name a few. I realized the way the employees and managers felt about me, everyone there probably thought that because I was Jewish I don?t want to work. At the termination, I told Chris that Richard hates me because I?m Jewish and calls me disgusting names such as the ones listed above and I broke down crying and Chris just looked at me with a smug grin on his face and then Chris threw open the door and stormed out when I told him how bad I felt about the appalling remarks that Richard said. Chris did not come back for the rest of the termination process. Chris didn?t act surprised or even care about what other employees called me, probably because he felt the same way and didn?t say- I?ll talk to Richard, or how could someone say that about you- that?s terrible, Chris didn?t? have any kind of thoughtful reaction. He simply didn?t care, didn?t want to help me or be sympathetic to the harassment that I endured during my employment. Chris left me with the level three, Kelly who said you have to leave, Chris isn?t going to change his mind, you can?t do anything and I can?t make this any easier on you. I just said I wanted to know why my performance was never brought to my attention, until the day of my termination with no way to become an even better employee, the 90 day learning period says that I would be given opportunities to have my shortcomings brought to my attention so that I can work on them and if I did not learn my duties after 90 days that I would be terminated. There is no way that I could have learned every aspect of my job, and all the departments in the short time that I worked there (less than one month). Kelly said that Chris is pissed off and he doesn?t want to deal with this anymore. I should have been helped along the way, and told how I did daily because I didn?t think, and still don?t think, that I am doing a bad job . That day there happened to be four new trainees, all African American, and I the hard working ?Jewish bagel boy? getting terminated Chris holds terrible racial bias. Since the day I said I was Jewish to the staff members, Chris, every day from then on, gave me nasty looks and walked past me when I gave him a greeting. From the hand shakes and thank you?s that he gave me the first two weeks of my employment. The change started almost immediately when he found out I?m Jewish. During the first day on the job he asked me where I?m from, I knew this might be a problem, so I told him that I am Greek. Other factors led to his hatred for me such as the time when a customer returned a used digital camera, and Chris told me to put it away and sell it as new since it was nicely packaged from the return. I said that it is not fair to sell a used returned camera as new if it looks new, it?s deceiving and unfair to customers looking for a new factory packaged camera. Chris said ?Mind your own business and do as I tell you?. Chris wanted to kill me and said ?Don?t tell me what do to do! Get back to work!?. I got scared and backed off. Another time, when a customer (Spanish exporter) came to buy Playstion one in bulk, I didn?t say anything because I didn?t know, but then a Sony representative stopped by and said that if we find out that a Target is selling our consoles in bulk, Sony will cut them off because money isn?t made in selling the hardware, only the software, the hardware is basically given to the customer so they would have something to play their software on, which is where all the money is made. I didn?t say anything to the Sony representative that day because I didn?t want Chris to get into any trouble, I told Chris later that day that the Sony representative told me about selling consoles in bulk is unacceptable and Chris didn?t say anything, he just looked at me with blood shot eyes and walked off. I also told him on one occasion that the fire escape door in the back room was blocked. Also, when I was trained as a cashier, I was told that if I work at the electronics register, that I would have to check out people that have a couple of items, or items that are behind the glass lockup. On one back to school night, a woman came up to me with a cart full of back to school items, I told her that I can not take you because you have too many items, I encourage you to go to the front lanes. Chris saw this and said ?What?s wrong with you, a sale is a sale, you mistreat our customers- you have to take everyone no matter what!? This is something that I was never taught in training, Chris just wanted to let out his anger on me. And on the final day, I was left with a walkie talkie that worked only in short distances, Chris tried to communicate with me, and I was unable to hear it, so he runs to my dept. and screams, ?You have to a walkie learn to use it and answer when I call you!?. I said that the walkie was not functioning properly. He ignored that. Chris has got the worst attitude and temper that I have ever seen. What?s worse is that Chris knew about the racist words that were spoken about me and even probably invented them with Richard when they spend all that time together laughing it up in the employee lounge or Target food court talking about the only white Jewish boy that works on Sales floor in the electronics dept. Often times I walk by Chris and other team members and when I pass they start laughing soon after and when I turn around and look at them, they are starring at me and say ?what?s up Danny? when I know they just insulted me behind my back. I was the only new hire who was Jewish as well and if Chris knew that form the beginning, I would have gotten fired a long time ago, and if he conducted my interview, I would probably never gotten the job. I am also the only white Jewish teenage on the sales floor and I guess him seeing how good I am in all aspects of the job, being so young, attending college- something not a lot of other employees there do when I asked them- built on to his hatred, maybe he felt threatened by me, maybe that I might be successful one day and even take over his job duties with time and lots of hard work, something that he doesn?t want to see, so he terminated me, wrongfully. Maybe some Jewish customers gave him a hard time in the past, but I am a unique individual and I don?t deserve this. Chris is the epitome of an anti-Semite. Chris tolerated those racist words, and he is the biggest racist and bigot the world will ever know. Once Chris found out that I am Jewish any questions, or personality that I showed, any challenge that I made to show my individuality- to show that I want to learn, be earnest and not be a drone Chris started hating me for asking these questions- but the first couple of weeks of work he was glad to answer questions. Now I am heart broken, and feel that Chris went out of line saying that I am ?not getting it? and humiliating me saying lies about me being rude to people when in fact I love people and have faith in them- and people love me. I called Chris later that evening, after my termination, and asked him about the 90 day learning period, and he was speechless, then for the corporate Phone Number and address, Chris gave the number to the merchandising dept. I called back and said this isn?t the correct number and he said ?I ain?t dealing with this sht? and hung up and would not talk with me anymore. I do not know if I will ever feel comfortable again holding a job b/c when I thought I did well and received praise , in Chris? eyes, I?m a ?horrible employee not up to standards? and I do not know if I can ever trust an employer again.
 

JustinSampson

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You REALLY need to add paragraphs to that before anyone could possibly read it.

<Edit>Beaten to it!</edit>
 

CasioTech

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sorry, the formatting got lost in the paste, it's a long read, and maybe shorter wold be sweeter, but I just figured here are a lot of the incidents and things that happened in my short period at Target