Finding Common Ground

[spidey07]

Originally posted by: Rainsford

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: jjzelinski

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: BBond

Originally posted by: jjzelinski
You know whats sad is that even if this country were attacked again I don't think it would bring people together.

When we're dealing with a political party that equates bi-partisanship with date rape what else can be expected?

Ain't that the truth. The dems would much rather cut of their nose to save their face.

You certainly don't sound like a "I'll meet you half way" kind of guy. In fact you are an excellent example of the problem at hand. But don't get too mad, so am I.

That's the problem. I'm sick and tired of meeting half way. I'm sick and tired of having to monitor everyting I say/do/feel/act. The libs have been pushing this country into utter chaos and the very reason why we are considered weak in the world and dare I say why we were attacked. So afraid to take a stand on any issue whatsoever. So afraid to hurt somebody's "feelings."

And I honestly believe the previous election was confirmation of that.

Just watch the movie "demoltion man". It ain't far from the way I feel. In trying to create a utopian society we have created a dichotomy. (sp?)

Well 49% of the country might disagree with you. You want to take some position where you take them all on? All or nothing? Better hope you win.

YOU might be confident that 51% of the country in this particular election is enough for "your side" to win, *I* certainly wouldn't gamble on it if I were you. Working together we can get something we can all deal with. Otherwise someone's going to "win", and if it's not you, ranting and raving about the wussification of America on the internet is about all you're going to be able to do...because no one will listen to some uncooprative radical.

Hope we win!!!!

????

We did win. We have congress, house and president. It couldn't be anymore glorious.

 

[Gaard]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Hope we win!!!!

????

We did win. We have congress, house and president. It couldn't be anymore glorious.

For some reason I'm equating spidey07 here with Martin Sheen in The Dead Zone.

 

[Ozoned]

Originally posted by: Ozoned

Originally posted by: alchemize
Given the complete inflexibility of the left, and their continued extremist views, I doubt we'll have much common ground. It's hard to have common ground with someone that hates you. Depends...maybe this forum is just an indicator of that rabid leftists, but maybe the democrat politicians will start to realize that the rabid leftists will still vote for them even if they ignore the screeches and hollers.

I am having a little trouble understanding how we can not find some common ground. Aside from Abortion and Gay marriage, I don't recall a lot of the goals of Republicans and Democrats being that different. I do recall questioning about the person best qualified to lead us towards our common goals. Most of Senator Kerry's claims were only to do what President Bush was doing, but to do it better.

Perhaps there may be a hidden Democratic Agenda that I am not aware of?

I believe I have found the Hidden Agenda, Alchemize. It is one of the untouchable issue's I mentioned in the OP.

Not winning in Iraq is the hidden ( well, not any more ) agenda of the Democratic Party.

There will be no common ground this time around Alchemize, as you stated..

 

[Centinel]

You know why there cant be common ground?

Because of talk like "You're side did this and this!"

and from many of the posts on here that dont even attempt to weight the question and just respond "no" without even trying.

It takes maturity and a willingness to hear the other side's point of view......both of which are sadly lacking in this country today.

What happened to the idea of "tolerance" that is thrown around so much these days?

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Centinel
You know why there cant be common ground?

Because of talk like "You're side did this and this!"

and from many of the posts on here that dont even attempt to weight the question and just respond "no" without even trying.

It takes maturity and a willingness to hear the other side's point of view......both of which are sadly lacking in this country today.

What happened to the idea of "tolerance" that is thrown around so much these days?

Exactly. All either side does is bash the other side, put them down...how the hell do they expect to get anywhere doing that? They are just as small-minded as the people they belittle.

 

[Centinel]

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Centinel
You know why there cant be common ground?

Because of talk like "You're side did this and this!"

and from many of the posts on here that dont even attempt to weight the question and just respond "no" without even trying.

It takes maturity and a willingness to hear the other side's point of view......both of which are sadly lacking in this country today.

What happened to the idea of "tolerance" that is thrown around so much these days?

Exactly. All either side does is bash the other side, put them down...how the hell do they expect to get anywhere doing that? They are just as small-minded as the people they belittle.

You know that, I know that.....the problem is getting the majority of this country to know that

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Topic Title: Finding Common Ground
Topic Summary: Is it a realistic Goal?

There won't be "common ground" ever again until the RRR FLL's are ousted from power.

 

[Centinel]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Topic Title: Finding Common Ground
Topic Summary: Is it a realistic Goal?

There won't be "common ground" ever again until the RRR FLL's are ousted from power.

...and you see nothing wrong with your attitude do you?

...what if the tables had turned and it was a conservative saying the same about Kerry, would that be ok?

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Centinel

Originally posted by: Excelsior

Originally posted by: Centinel
You know why there cant be common ground?

Because of talk like "You're side did this and this!"

and from many of the posts on here that dont even attempt to weight the question and just respond "no" without even trying.

It takes maturity and a willingness to hear the other side's point of view......both of which are sadly lacking in this country today.

What happened to the idea of "tolerance" that is thrown around so much these days?

Exactly. All either side does is bash the other side, put them down...how the hell do they expect to get anywhere doing that? They are just as small-minded as the people they belittle.

You know that, I know that.....the problem is getting the majority of this country to know that

 

[Excelsior]

Originally posted by: Centinel

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Topic Title: Finding Common Ground
Topic Summary: Is it a realistic Goal?

There won't be "common ground" ever again until the RRR FLL's are ousted from power.

...and you see nothing wrong with your attitude do you?

...what if the tables had turned and it was a conservative saying the same about Kerry, would that be ok?

He wouldn't care, because as long as he is happy, apparently the country is much better off. He knows best afterall...

 

[Centinel]

No, it's the fact that he can only see one correct way....his way.

No thoughts of compromise.
No thoughts of listening and cooperating.
No thoughts of working with the other side.

ME ME MINE MINE MINE YOU'RE WRONG.

both sides suffer from it....and that's a shame.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Centinel

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Ozoned
Topic Title: Finding Common Ground
Topic Summary: Is it a realistic Goal?

There won't be "common ground" ever again until the RRR FLL's are ousted from power.

...and you see nothing wrong with your attitude do you?

...what if the tables had turned and it was a conservative saying the same about Kerry, would that be ok?

Ah, exactly the point. The Country had a chance to change direction if they felt things weren't going so hot under the 4 yrs under Bush, but NO they give a thumbs up to a disaster.

If Bush was Democrat I would've expected the same change to be made to switch to the other party after the last 4 years.

 

[biostud]

There's really no reason to find common ground when the rep. hold majority in the Congress.

 

[Centinel]

So then what makes your side the "right" side?

Your beliefs? Same can be said by the other.

I just dont understand why people totally refuse to compromise.

 

[piasabird]

I dont see anything the democratic party wants to find a common ground on.

 

[Centinel]

Keep up with that attitude. It lost the democrats the election in 2004, and it will make them lose it in 2006, 2008, 2010, etc etc.

Get that "holier than thou" BS out of your heads.....same goes to the conservatives.

 

[racolvin]

I think perhaps that your question is too broadly based.

You listed a number of topic areas and placed them out of bounds. Why not start threads on each, labeled appropriately? For example:

Findiing Common Ground: Gay Marriage

Finding Common Ground: Abortion

Finding Common Ground: Tort Reform

You'll need to seed the conversation with a bit of background or some other thing to get the ball rolling, but perhaps each individual thread would be more productive and on-topic?

Just a suggestion

R

 

[Centinel]

Tort reform:

Cap punitive damages.

Done.

 

[racolvin]

Originally posted by: Centinel
Tort reform:

Cap punitive damages.

Done.

Were you going to start a seperate thread on that? Or did you wish to begin a topical discussion 5 pages into an ambiguous headlined thread?

R

 

[Centinel]

Na, I feel that my solution pretty much sums up everything that needs to be said on the issue so no further discussion is needed

 

[racolvin]

Originally posted by: Centinel
Na, I feel that my solution pretty much sums up everything that needs to be said on the issue so no further discussion is needed

LOL! Well ok, I guess that's all the common ground we need then

:beer:

R

 

[ntdz]

Originally posted by: Uhtrinity

Originally posted by: Ozoned
George W. Bush is your elected president, again. Undoubtedly this means the conservative agenda will advance. :thumbsup:

The last time around President Bush reached out to find some common ground and got stung.

If President Bush hasn't lost faith in finding common ground, what issue or issue's would you like to see advanced for compromise?


Obviously, there are the untouchable issue's, the ones that got President Bush re-elected. I don't see how he could compromise on these....


[*] Abortion

[*] Stem cell research

[*] Morality

[*] Winning in Iraq

[*] War on terror

[*] Tax breaks

[*] Homeland security

[*] Faith based initiatives

[*] Gay marriage

[*] Judicial reform

[*] Tort reform


I am sure there are some untouchable's that I missed, but there is a lot of wiggle room in finding common ground on other important issue's like Social Security, the economy, environmental reform, and what I suppose would be a myriad of other important issue's that are close to your heart.

What do you really think?

Can we find common ground, or are we simply to resign ourselves to four more years of vile hate filled rhetoric and hyperbole being exchanged and a deepening divide among party lines? :brokenheart:

He has never attepted to find common ground, do you remember 'you are with us or against us'?

referring to terrorists, not legislation...you guys pull stuff out of your ass that makes no sense.

 

[SViscusi]

n/m

 

[judasmachine]

"reaching out" to a republican means intimidating people until they agree with them.

 

[BBond]

"Bipartisanship is another name for date rape" --
Grover Norquist

A good window into the Republican mindset regarding finding common ground.