FINALLY Got my Copy of Civ IV yesterday.

[paperfist]

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: paperfist

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: NJDevil
UPS is trying to mess with me. Yesterday, no one was home to sign for the package (damn roommates), and when I went to pick it up ... i didn't have proof of address (since no one told me I needed that when i arranged for the pickup). Since I couldn't pick it up, I just asked them to deliver it tomorrow instead. Check this morning: My status is still on will call pickup, so I call and arrange to have it delivered today.

However, my online tracking status still says will-call. If I don't get it before this weekend, I'm going to be very unhappy .

sweet ill do that

yea i got it as well, however my tech tree fold out is in french , which suck

everuything else is sweet tho

You can go to the publisher's website and fill out a form and they'll mail you one in english They had some kind of mess up at the factory.

So anyone want to break religion down for me? I founded 3 of them and I'm not sure if I should only have 1 dominate or to spread all 3 of them???

all the religions do the same thing, just add some happyness or gold to your cities, i ignored them on my first game and went right to free state religion

Ahhh.

I was under the impression that having founded a religion and spreading it around would allow you to take over other CIVs cities. CIV3 had something like that with cultural influence.

I'm using a X2-3800 & nVidia 7800GT w/o any issues at all. My only gripe with the game is that tiny arse window on the top left that reports world events. It's so small I have trouble reading it

 

[Anubis]

you can still culture swap cities liek in civ3, i havent seen it happen yet tho, and reading the manual helps, if you found a religion and then spread it, you get a few extra culture points but thats about it

 

[Leper Messiah]

Well, I played about 6 hours straight on my brother's laptop (He went to see Oh My God, otherwise he'd been playing instead of me), no hardlocks, but Alt-Tabing really slows down the PC, enough to where I thought I killed it. Maybe thats just the lappy though.

I like how you can take your own MP3 playlists and put them in the music folder, and they'll actually play. Gotta have good music when you're conquering the world! About the only thing that PO'd me, is that my Panzers got killed by Grenadiers about 3 times. 12 attack+25% bonus still != 28+20% attack. Meh. Bombers and other artilery are actually usefull in this game, since they hit all units in the stack for X ammount of damage apiece, percentage-wise.

 

[Chaotic42]

I have to say, the barbarians have sure stepped up in this release. They don't screw around. When one group of barbarians can take your walled city with two defenders...

It's hard.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: Chaotic42
I have to say, the barbarians have sure stepped up in this release. They don't screw around. When one group of barbarians can take your walled city with two defenders...

It's hard.

It really depends on the difficulty setting. On the second level, they are not even a threat. On the third they start to really hurt.

 

[Avalon]

I fired up my first game a couple days ago, and while I'm not used to the changes yet, I think I like it. They definitely simplified a lot of things in the game, to make it easier to play. I love the new graphics engine. Gameplay seems to be a tad slower than in Civ3, at least for me. The only thing right now that I can say I dislike is that there are so many terrain improvement options. Farm, pasture, road, windmill, watermill, lumbermill, camp, village, mine, fortress, etc. Sometimes, they are terrain specific though, so that does help a bit. I do like how the game displays why other civs like/dislike you, and the actual combat is pretty nifty. The religion add-in is a pretty good touch, and seems to work well. I think it's funny how other civs get mad at you for being a different religion.

I'll need to allocate more time to play the game. Hopefully it's as addicting as Civ2/3

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: Avalon
I fired up my first game a couple days ago, and while I'm not used to the changes yet, I think I like it. They definitely simplified a lot of things in the game, to make it easier to play. I love the new graphics engine. Gameplay seems to be a tad slower than in Civ3, at least for me. The only thing right now that I can say I dislike is that there are so many terrain improvement options. Farm, pasture, road, windmill, watermill, lumbermill, camp, village, mine, fortress, etc. Sometimes, they are terrain specific though, so that does help a bit. I do like how the game displays why other civs like/dislike you, and the actual combat is pretty nifty. The religion add-in is a pretty good touch, and seems to work well. I think it's funny how other civs get mad at you for being a different religion.

I'll need to allocate more time to play the game. Hopefully it's as addicting as Civ2/3

yea too many terrain improvenemts s, i just let the workers auto improve,and it seems to work unless i need something to be specific

 

[Anubis]

and this is just too funny
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/TheEvil1/civ4.JPG

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: paperfist

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: paperfist

Originally posted by: Anubis

Originally posted by: NJDevil
UPS is trying to mess with me. Yesterday, no one was home to sign for the package (damn roommates), and when I went to pick it up ... i didn't have proof of address (since no one told me I needed that when i arranged for the pickup). Since I couldn't pick it up, I just asked them to deliver it tomorrow instead. Check this morning: My status is still on will call pickup, so I call and arrange to have it delivered today.

However, my online tracking status still says will-call. If I don't get it before this weekend, I'm going to be very unhappy .

sweet ill do that

yea i got it as well, however my tech tree fold out is in french , which suck

everuything else is sweet tho

You can go to the publisher's website and fill out a form and they'll mail you one in english They had some kind of mess up at the factory.

So anyone want to break religion down for me? I founded 3 of them and I'm not sure if I should only have 1 dominate or to spread all 3 of them???

all the religions do the same thing, just add some happyness or gold to your cities, i ignored them on my first game and went right to free state religion

Ahhh.

I was under the impression that having founded a religion and spreading it around would allow you to take over other CIVs cities. CIV3 had something like that with cultural influence.

It does. The person that responded was wrong 8)

When you have a religion you can build missionaries to go and try and convert other civ's cities to your religion. There's also lots of other effects like civs react better to you if you are the same religion, if you have the holy city and other civs are the same religion they send pilgrims there which gives you stuff like a trade route and lots of other effects too.

Oh also if you great a great prophet he can build legendary cathedral city improvements in the holy city of a specific religion.

 

[Velk]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Is it as horrible as that Civ 3 that is rotting in my closet?

That depends on why you did not like civ3.

I got bored with civ3 mostly because of the way the game bogged down horribly as it got to later ages, which was fed mostly by the need to expand like crazy in all directions as quickly as possible. The other thing which aggravated that was enemy civ's habits of dumping absolutely horrible cities in awkward places everywhere.

I find civ4 to be heaps better from those perspectives, in that individual cities are vastly more important, and expanding to make a huge number of cities quickly will cripple your growth and economy - it's much better to have 2 great cities than 10 poor ones. Part of that is because cities can occupy a far larger area than previously - with high culture the city will have enormous borders, and all of the land enclosed by the border is usable by the city if you build improvements on them. You can also big sort of auxiliary housing ( cottages ) around the main city so that it spreads over several tiles. There is also no building maintenance cost - the maintenance cost is per city, and the cost per city increases with the number of cities you have.

If you disliked civ3 for other reasons, I am not sure - let me know what they were and I can give a better estimate of whether 4 has changed those aspects for the better or not.

 

[karioskasra]

I just noticed something terribly offensive in Civ4. On the list of leaders for each faction that you choose at the beginning of the game for Germany, you have Otto von Bismarck and Frederick the 1st. Where the hell is Hitler? They left out possibly the greatest German leader of all time simply because his inclusion might offend some people? I might understand if all characters and events are fictional but this is stuff you can get out of any history textbook. Not to take anything away from Bismarck, but helping to defeat Austria and implementing a few social reforms doesn't put him on the same level of accomplishment as Adolf Hitler. Mao and Tokugawa were also included, to throw the hypocrisy off the charts. This makes me sick.

 

[Vertimus]

Originally posted by: karioskasra
I just noticed something terribly offensive in Civ4. On the list of leaders for each faction that you choose at the beginning of the game for Germany, you have Otto von Bismarck and Frederick the 1st. Where the hell is Hitler? They left out possibly the greatest German leader of all time simply because his inclusion might offend some people? I might understand if all characters and events are fictional but this is stuff you can get out of any history textbook. Not to take anything away from Bismarck, but helping to defeat Austria and implementing a few social reforms doesn't put him on the same level of accomplishment as Adolf Hitler. Mao and Tokugawa were also included, to throw the hypocrisy off the charts. This makes me sick.

If you are such a diehard hitler fan, then don't buy the game.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: karioskasra
I just noticed something terribly offensive in Civ4. On the list of leaders for each faction that you choose at the beginning of the game for Germany, you have Otto von Bismarck and Frederick the 1st. Where the hell is Hitler? They left out possibly the greatest German leader of all time simply because his inclusion might offend some people? I might understand if all characters and events are fictional but this is stuff you can get out of any history textbook. Not to take anything away from Bismarck, but helping to defeat Austria and implementing a few social reforms doesn't put him on the same level of accomplishment as Adolf Hitler. Mao and Tokugawa were also included, to throw the hypocrisy off the charts. This makes me sick.

Probably because no one in their right mind would actually want to play as hilter...

And Bismark not being important? WTF are you talking about? With out bismark there is no modern germany. He's basically single handedly responsible for unifying the german provinces into Germany.

 

[Chaotic42]

Originally posted by: karioskasra
I just noticed something terribly offensive in Civ4. On the list of leaders for each faction that you choose at the beginning of the game for Germany, you have Otto von Bismarck and Frederick the 1st. Where the hell is Hitler? They left out possibly the greatest German leader of all time simply because his inclusion might offend some people? I might understand if all characters and events are fictional but this is stuff you can get out of any history textbook. Not to take anything away from Bismarck, but helping to defeat Austria and implementing a few social reforms doesn't put him on the same level of accomplishment as Adolf Hitler. Mao and Tokugawa were also included, to throw the hypocrisy off the charts. This makes me sick.

You can script him into the game if you want.

 

[imported_FishTaco]

Originally posted by: icelazer
Sorry to dump on your post and let the flaming begin, but I have a remark/question. I played a civ2 demo a long long time ago for just a little while and though the game was crap. I've been looking at the reviews and screenshots of civ4 lately and it sorta looks like fun. Are there any other games you can compare this to? I have the hardware to run it for sure, but just not sure if it's my type of game.

It's still a turned based game with similar traits to the old civs, so whether you like civ iv or not depends on why you didn't like civ2.

Anyway, here's a guy's walkthrough of a single player game with screenshots and explanations of what he did. It'll give you a good feel for what civ iv is like.

http://www.kalikokottage.com/civ3/sullla/civ4_walk_1.html

 

[karioskasra]

Originally posted by: Vertimus
If you are such a diehard hitler fan, then don't buy the game.

Thanks for brilliantly pointing to a strategy that would require a time machine to accomplish. Why don't you enlighten me with a few more of your well thought out insights?

This may not seem like much but it signifies how many baby-steps video games have made towards being politically correct to appeal to the mainstream. So what, you remove all mention of anybody who lost a war against you? This is the same as Japan removing the Nanking massacre from their textbooks or the Chinese denying everything about Tiananmen Square. Hi! I'm 0.1% of the population and I might be offended if you had sex in an M-rated game! Hi! I'm 0.1% of the population and I might be offended if you had an overly ambitious leader who everybody loves to hate in the game!

Yeah, Mao, Hitler, Huangdi, Tokugawa... they're all murdering bastards to someone who can see things for what they are. Unfortunately, you people have been too brainwashed into rooting for "our" side, whatever "our" happens to be most convenient for the local government at the time. Grow some balls and stop censoring yourself.

 

[IronMentality]

Civ 3 was awesome. Looking forward to picking up Civ 4 today.

 

[IronMentality]

Originally posted by: Anubis
and this is just too funny
http://pics.bbzzdd.com/users/TheEvil1/civ4.JPG

oh man LOL

 

[Malladine]

Originally posted by: Muadib
So is the game issue free for those with Nvidia cards? I went to Walmart to buy it, but the $50 price, and the fact that I hated Civ 3 made me keep walking. I'll pick it up in a month or so. It should be $35 by then.

Don't buy from Walmart man! Go online (gogamer.com for example) or to a local game store, if you have one.

 

[Bulldog13]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
Is it as horrible as that Civ 3 that is rotting in my closet?

I thought Civ 3 blew also. 4 is much better. I am loving it.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: karioskasra

Originally posted by: Vertimus
If you are such a diehard hitler fan, then don't buy the game.

Thanks for brilliantly pointing to a strategy that would require a time machine to accomplish. Why don't you enlighten me with a few more of your well thought out insights?

This may not seem like much but it signifies how many baby-steps video games have made towards being politically correct to appeal to the mainstream. So what, you remove all mention of anybody who lost a war against you? This is the same as Japan removing the Nanking massacre from their textbooks or the Chinese denying everything about Tiananmen Square. Hi! I'm 0.1% of the population and I might be offended if you had sex in an M-rated game! Hi! I'm 0.1% of the population and I might be offended if you had an overly ambitious leader who everybody loves to hate in the game!

Yeah, Mao, Hitler, Huangdi, Tokugawa... they're all murdering bastards to someone who can see things for what they are. Unfortunately, you people have been too brainwashed into rooting for "our" side, whatever "our" happens to be most convenient for the local government at the time. Grow some balls and stop censoring yourself.

You still haven't explained WHY you would want to play as hitler. Most people, if not nearly all, wouldn't play as hilter. As a game designer, why would you include a function that no one is going to use? Its ineffiecent direction of resources.

 

[bleuiko]

The reason they didn't include Hitlet was because there will be uprising from the Jewish community... the designer didn't want to bother with that. All the other people you speak of, no one will really give them hell for it. Its that simple really.

 

[state 08]

I'd play as Hitler. I think it'd be amusing ruling a civ with him and having the religion be Judaism.

 

[SarcasticDwarf]

Originally posted by: bleuiko
The reason they didn't include Hitlet was because there will be uprising from the Jewish community... the designer didn't want to bother with that. All the other people you speak of, no one will really give them hell for it. Its that simple really.

Actually, there are apparently people pissed because one of the file packs has an image of Mohammed (that isn't used anywhere in the game). Apparently it is against their religion to have any images of him.

In other words, people will find something to be pissed about. Personally, I am much more pissed that the game is unplayable.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: SarcasticDwarf

Originally posted by: bleuiko
The reason they didn't include Hitlet was because there will be uprising from the Jewish community... the designer didn't want to bother with that. All the other people you speak of, no one will really give them hell for it. Its that simple really.

Actually, there are apparently people pissed because one of the file packs has an image of Mohammed (that isn't used anywhere in the game). Apparently it is against their religion to have any images of him.

In other words, people will find something to be pissed about. Personally, I am much more pissed that the game is unplayable.

Oh great, now someone's going to suicide bomb Firaxis..

Speaking of which, does the Arab civilization have the "suicide bomber" character? One that can infiltrate an enemy city and destroy himself, reducing the enemy population and damaging infrastructure, without harming any military units?