Ferguson Police Chief Lied About Why He Released Alleged Michael Brown Robbery Tape

[ivwshane]

There was talk about a potential robbery before the tape was released.

Anyone that was listening to the Ferguson police radio on their scanner (most news agencies do this on a regular basis) would have heard the description of the people involved and then looking at the photos of the scene after the shooting would have been able to put two and two together.

Find me a reporter who knew this info before it was released and I'll agree with you, otherwise you are stretching.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

My bet is he did have an informed tip

https://twitter.com/joelcurrier/status/507932551868993536

I can't remember, I can't recall wink, wink.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Based on this update, the title is incorrect and should be changed to reflect the update.

what ?? Are you that dense.....It does not matter if people were making requests...the website was down and the chief knew nothing of the requests..thus Chief Lied.............2 +2 = 4

 

[MtnMan]

And ....

Who gives a shit if anyone requested the video or not.

+1

This thug used his size to intimidate and push aside the clerk in a strong armed robbery. Shows his mindset that day, and 15 minutes later, he tried the same thing on a cop, that killed his worthless ass.

 

[mizzou]

+1

This thug used his size to intimidate and push aside the clerk in a strong armed robbery. Shows his mindset that day, and 15 minutes later, he tried the same thing on a cop, that killed his worthless ass.

<3

 

[Fern]

Jeez, you people were criticizing the police for not releasing info. Now you're dog piling him for what he did release.

This is an example of why I argued in the original MB thread that the police should not be releasing info (they should be focused on their investigation instead). Cases shouldn't be tried in the media.

BTW: The way I read it at least one reporter made a request that would include the tape.

Given the statement by Ferguson City Attorney Stephanie Karr it might be prudent to wait for any additional info before 'convicting' the guy of lying.

Fern

 

[Thebobo]

BTW: The way I read it at least one reporter made a request that would include the tape.

Given the statement by Ferguson City Attorney Stephanie Karr it might be prudent to wait for any additional info before 'convicting' the guy of lying.

Fern

How do you read that? Please post a link to where a reporter asked for the "tape." What exactly did this reporter ask for?

 

[Fern]

How do you read that? Please post a link to where a reporter asked for the "tape." What exactly did this reporter ask for?

It's in the OP's post:

There was one reporter, Joel Currier with the St. Louis Post-Dispatch, who asked for any and all evidence "leading up to" Brown’s death in a FOIA request. The request could have possibly included the tape, since the incident report on the robbery identifies Brown as a suspect in the crime.

Currier told The Huffington Post's Matt Sledge in a tweet that "I can't recall if I knew of robbery at the time of request. I made it broad in hopes of getting as much material as possible."

In another tweet, he added, "I think I may have been hearing rumors of a robbery but nothing confirmed."

Fern

 

[Engineer]

"I&#8217;d been sitting on it, but I -- too many people put in a [Freedom of Information Act] request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you."

Why is this in brackets? Did he really say "I&#8217;d been sitting on it, but I had too many people put in a request for that thing, and I had to release that tape to you." and someone had to change it to fit their agenda?

Typically, brackets mean that the person paused before saying a specific thing. Not saying that's the case here but I've seen it many times and compared to video footage of those items and it matches.

Edit: Apparently, I'm wrong on the above. It looks like it's an added response to add clarity to the quote. So is the author assuming that the Freedom of Information act was used when it could have just been people (reporters) simply calling and asking? Too much assumption here if so.

 

[spidey07]

Why anybody is defending this thug is totally beyond me. He got his justice.


Since "thug" is a now widely recognized code word for blacks whose actions you don't like, you are no longer allowed to use this word as a cover for your racist views. Not . . . one . . . more . . . time.


Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Victorian Gray]

It's kind of weird that they added that in. Maybe people had simply said, verbally, "hey, are you going to release that tape?"

So, it's possible the OP is attempting to smear the police chief. At this point, we don't know for certain. But we CAN look at the OP's thread posting history, which lends a bit of credence toward my latter proposition.

Or, it's the article writer (or editor) following appropriate writing rules:

"Square brackets are used around words that are added that are not part of the original quote. For instance, you might have a source that says "Brenda and David went to the store," but you only want the quote to refer to David as a pronoun in your quote. So you should change it to "[He] went to the store."

Brackets can also be used with quotes for explanation for how you changed the quote from the original source. For example, you might write "Brenda and David went to the store [emphasis added]."

http://askus.library.wwu.edu/a.php?qid=363529

In this case I suspect that it was added as an explanation as to what type of request was made and why the department would have to grant that request.

It's a common, everyday practice and there is nothing sinister about it.

 

[WelshBloke]

Typically, brackets mean that the person paused before saying a specific thing. Not saying that's the case here but I've seen it many times and compared to video footage of those items and it matches.

Edit: Apparently, I'm wrong on the above. It looks like it's an added response to add clarity to the quote. So is the author assuming that the Freedom of Information act was used when it could have just been people (reporters) simply calling and asking? Too much assumption here if so.

It's usually used when the phrase has been used earlier in the conversation but that bit has been edited out but they are still referring to the same thing.

Like if your talking about a specific person that you mention by name at the beginning of a conversation and later just refer to as him.

 

[jackstar7]

Why anybody is defending this thug is totally beyond me. He got his justice.

Be more respectful to your mom's ex-boyfriends.


While personal insults are allowed in P&N, this one is simply a step too far. Everyone, please take not of this warning.

Perknose
Forum Director

 

[Londo_Jowo]

what ?? Are you that dense.....It does not matter if people were making requests...the website was down and the chief knew nothing of the requests..thus Chief Lied.............2 +2 = 4

You and your cop hating buddies are the dense ones. The updates shows he was spreaking the truth when he spoke.

 

[spidey07]

Be more respectful to your mom's ex-boyfriends.

My mom is dead. She is with God. Mom jokes don't work on adults.

You stupid fucks are hanging your hat on a worthless thug who is better off dead. Keep going down that road though.

Keep supporting the thug. Please do. You have not learned from history.

 

[Sinsear]

Why anybody is defending this thug is totally beyond me. He got his justice.


Since "thug" is a now widely recognized code word for blacks whose actions you don't like, you are no longer allowed to use this word as a cover for your racist views. Not . . . one . . . more . . . time.


Perknose
Forum Director

Way to warp the language to fit your agenda. Bravo!




You should know about warping the language to fit agendas.

Your continuing to callout moderators here is not going to bode well for you.

Either stop and follow the rules, or find somewhere else to post.


esquared
Anandtech Forum Director

 

[LegendKiller]

Why anybody is defending this thug is totally beyond me. He got his justice.


Since "thug" is a now widely recognized code word for blacks whose actions you don't like, you are no longer allowed to use this word as a cover for your racist views. Not . . . one . . . more . . . time.


Perknose
Forum Director

Sorry, but this is just BS. The definition of a thug -

a violent person, especially a criminal.
synonyms: ruffian, hooligan, vandal, hoodlum, gangster, villain, criminal; More

So we have a person that was violent, likely in a gang, and a criminal.

Just because he happens to be black makes no difference. Saddam Hussein was a thug. Quaddafi was a thug. Assad is a thug. Are you now going to call me racist against Arabic people too?

Or maybe there's another common denominator, like they were/are all violent, regime leading, criminals?

 

[shortylickens]

Actually, thug comes from Thugee which comes from India.

So the ultra liberal mods here could make the argument that it is in fact racist.

Of course, that doesnt change anything about the official policy regarding racism against white people on this forum, but I would not expect it to.

 

[JEDIYoda]

Sorry, but this is just BS. The definition of a thug -

a violent person, especially a criminal.
synonyms: ruffian, hooligan, vandal, hoodlum, gangster, villain, criminal; More

So we have a person that was violent, likely in a gang, and a criminal.

Just because he happens to be black makes no difference. Saddam Hussein was a thug. Quaddafi was a thug. Assad is a thug. Are you now going to call me racist against Arabic people too?

Or maybe there's another common denominator, like they were/are all violent, regime leading, criminals?

You were not told that you cannot use the word THUG!! Spidey was because that is how Spidey uses the word! Your definitions mean nothing in this case!

 

[LegendKiller]

You were not told that you cannot use the word THUG!! Spidey was because that is how Spidey uses the word! Your definitions mean nothing in this case!

I can't believe I am defending Spidey, but this is ridiculous.

Yes, because all Longshoremen are black.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2190454&highlight=thug

All Germans are black.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2381077&highlight=thug

Ohh and all white guys are black.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost.php?p=36171998&postcount=611

Need I go on?



This whole "thug is black" thing is ridiculous. Thug is a behavior, not a race. And singling out Spidey like he only uses it on black people, associating the word 100% with them, is silly. He obviously associates the word with a behavior.

 

[JEDIYoda]

I can't believe I am defending Spidey, but this is ridiculous.

Yes, because all Longshoremen are black.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthre...highlight=thug

All Germans are black.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showthre...highlight=thug

Ohh and all white guys are black.

http://forums.anandtech.com/showpost...&postcount=611

Need I go on?



This whole "thug is black" thing is ridiculous. Thug is a behavior, not a race. And singling out Spidey like he only uses it on black people, associating the word 100% with them, is silly. He obviously associates the word with a behavior.

You can give examples all you want......but this word "thug" when Spidey uses it is racial in context and nature......
When you use this word it most likely means all the various definitions......

 

[brianmanahan]

if a guy robbed a store, he robbed a store. who cares how this information was released?

what you do is what you do. it's a tautology, but it's still true.

 

[pcgeek11]

Why should have the video been released when no other info pertaining to the investigation has been released?

See there you go again reading only what you want to see in my post. Now I know you cannot read. Let me quote myself for you again:

The video should have been released and was.

Do you know why it should not be released?

Everything about this case should be open and public.

Including the character of both victims ( the Policeman and MB ).

 

[ivwshane]

See there you go again reading only what you want to see in my post. Now I know you cannot read. Let me quote myself for you again:

I read it just fine, you are the one that cannot read. I asked why should the video be released if nothing else was released? I get that you want everything to be released but that's not what happened. So again, why should the video be released when nothing else was?

 

[pcgeek11]

I didn't mention anything about him lying.

What I said was ( as you have problems reading )



The video should have been released and was.

Do you know why it should not be released?

Everything about this case should be open and public.

Including the character of both victims ( the Policeman and MB ).

The police chief lying is another point entirely. Which I have not addressed, we don't have enough facts.

I read it just fine, you are the one that cannot read. I asked why should the video be released if nothing else was released? I get that you want everything to be released but that's not what happened. So again, why should the video be released when nothing else was?

I asked first why it shouldn't be released. See my quoted post # 7 above. I think everything should be open.

Well you answer mine first.

I have no control over what is or isn't released. It does seem the AG Holder is trying to suppress the flow of information from what I have read. Ask him.

http://www.americasfreedomfighters....ferguson-police-not-to-release-robbery-video/

A law enforcement source told CNN that Ferguson police actually wanted to release the video one day earlier on Thursday, but held off because of objections by the Justice Department.