FBI reopens investigation into Clinton email use

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emperus

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It's amazing anyone on this forum thinks this was a good idea. This should be roundly condemned by both sides. That letter served no purpose what so ever but to hurt Hilary Clinton. That's not how justice should work. Imagine if it were the case that nothing was found and Hilary lost the election because of this. How is that fair and/or just?

It's also comical that Trump supporters have been railing against a rigged system and then when Comey does something that is inherently unfair, they rejoice. I guess for Trump's stooges, rigged is anything that doesn't help them get their way.
 

MongGrel

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It's amazing anyone on this forum thinks this was a good idea. This should be roundly condemned by both sides. That letter served no purpose what so ever but to hurt Hilary Clinton. That's not how justice should work. Imagine if it were the case that nothing was found and Hilary lost the election because of this. How is that fair and/or just?

It's also comical that Trump supporters have been railing against a rigged system and then when Comey does something that is inherently unfair, they rejoice. I guess for Trump's stooges, rigged is anything that doesn't help them get their way.

Swiftboat worked in the past.

It just not was instigated by the Director of the FBI.

It truly looks like Comey is taking one for the team IMHO, who knows what he may have been promised in the background, if you want a conspiracy theory.

Is turning into this elections "hanging chads" atm.
 

Starbuck1975

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It's amazing anyone on this forum thinks this was a good idea. This should be roundly condemned by both sides. That letter served no purpose what so ever but to hurt Hilary Clinton. That's not how justice should work. Imagine if it were the case that nothing was found and Hilary lost the election because of this. How is that fair and/or just?

It's also comical that Trump supporters have been railing against a rigged system and then when Comey does something that is inherently unfair, they rejoice. I guess for Trump's stooges, rigged is anything that doesn't help them get their way.
Comey is in a no win situation. What we know is that there is a device, there may be emails and those emails may be relevant to the FBI's investigation.

Given the public interest, this development was going to break regardless.

Can you imagine the firestorm if this leaked one day or two weeks or one month after Clinton's victory on election day? How about one day prior? If anything, Comey did Clinton a favor in that she still has time for damage control.

Unless of course the FBI believes it now has leverage over Abedin or Weiner relevant to Clinton or otherwise.

In nominating Clinton, Democrats accepted the risk of their candidate being the subject of an FBI investigation, and the implications inherent to where that investigation might land. The same as the Republicans accepting the inherent risk of their candidate being on record saying some pretty deplorable things. Both are facing the repercussions of those decisions.

I don't envy Comey. I was of course disappointed in the FBI's decision not to indict, but I respect the disciplined and logical way Comey defended that decision. I respect his subsequent professionalism under intense GOP scrutiny. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly undermine all of that as he has nothing to gain.

It is amazing how quickly Trump moved to now embrace Comey. while Clinton and her surrogates now want his head, with the smear campaign against him now in full force.
 

UglyCasanova

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I'm thinking NYPD was the one who discovered it, passed it along to FBI, and the FBI was left with no choice but to reopen it. If not NYPD goes public, or at least that'd be the fear.
 

Thump553

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Comey is in a no win situation. What we know is that there is a device, there may be emails and those emails may be relevant to the FBI's investigation.

Given the public interest, this development was going to break regardless.

Can you imagine the firestorm if this leaked one day or two weeks or one month after Clinton's victory on election day? How about one day prior? If anything, Comey did Clinton a favor in that she still has time for damage control.

Unless of course the FBI believes it now has leverage over Abedin or Weiner relevant to Clinton or otherwise.

In nominating Clinton, Democrats accepted the risk of their candidate being the subject of an FBI investigation, and the implications inherent to where that investigation might land. The same as the Republicans accepting the inherent risk of their candidate being on record saying some pretty deplorable things. Both are facing the repercussions of those decisions.

I don't envy Comey. I was of course disappointed in the FBI's decision not to indict, but I respect the disciplined and logical way Comey defended that decision. I respect his subsequent professionalism under intense GOP scrutiny. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly undermine all of that as he has nothing to gain.

It is amazing how quickly Trump moved to now embrace Comey. while Clinton and her surrogates now want his head, with the smear campaign against him now in full force.

I'm a Hillary supporter. As I said earlier in this thread I don't envy the position Comey found himself in, he had essentially put himself in a box. But I do fault greatly the letter he released to the public as being unnecessarily vague and highly supportive of GOP partisan conclusions-the party he is from-when he could have easily wrote a much more clear and far less incendiary letter-like he did the same day with the memo to FBI employees. As a lawyer and former judge he was certainly easily capable of doing so, and more significantly, he certainly knew the probable effect of releasing the letter he did-it was clearly intended to effect the election, especially among low information voters.

In the end Comey is a flawed person. He had the guts to initially admit that, while he could have brought charges they never would have resulted in a conviction. He has the gumption to continue the investigation but his recent actions have no possible outcome except to taint the election when the real results won't be known for months. We have had better, and far worse FBI directors. He's moved down the ladder a good deal in my view.
 
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Jhhnn

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He had the guts to initially admit that, while he could have brought charges they never would have resulted in a conviction.

That's not what he said. He said no prosecutor would bring such charges because he could discern no criminal intent. That was a moral judgement rather than a practical one.
 

DrDoug

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Wow! So, they don't have a search warrant to look at the emails and have no clue what are in them but it was worth sending a letter to congress about them. And it's precedence to not comment on an investigation. SMH

Yeah, not only that but:

James Comey Broke with Loretta Lynch and Justice Department Tradition

According to the Administration official, Lynch asked Comey to follow Justice Department policies, but he said that he was obliged to break with them because he had promised to inform members of Congress if there were further developments in the case. He also felt that the impending election created a compelling need to inform the public, despite the tradition of acting with added discretion around elections. The Administration official said that Lynch and Justice Department officials are studying the situation, which he called unprecedented.

So not only has he not seen the emails, he has no idea if they are copies of ones that already have been investigated...
 

Sunburn74

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Yeah, not only that but:



So not only has he not seen the emails, he has no idea if they are copies of ones that already have been investigated...
The letter sent to congress was way more inflammatory than the memo he sent to his own people.
 

Jhhnn

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I'm thinking NYPD was the one who discovered it, passed it along to FBI, and the FBI was left with no choice but to reopen it. If not NYPD goes public, or at least that'd be the fear.

Bullshit. It stems from an FBI investigation into Weiner's sexting.
 

MongGrel

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He didn't release it to the public though Thump553, congress did.

I'm pretty sure went he sent the letter to congress is was going to be leaked.

Is almost like he was trying to make a point about unsecured information in a roundabout way.

Or wanted it to appear that way when it leaked.

Bad form though, he knew what he was doing.
 

Jhhnn

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Yeah, not only that but:



So not only has he not seen the emails, he has no idea if they are copies of ones that already have been investigated...

Be careful of believing second hand accounts. Lynch hasn't said anything & I doubt that she will.
 

MongGrel

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Bullshit. It stems from an FBI investigation into Weiner's sexting.

I'll disagree, the fact of the matter is it is doing damage now.

It seems orchestrated to me, on a Friday dump, but we can agree to disagree.
 

DrDoug

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The letter sent to congress was way more inflammatory than the memo he sent to his own people.

It will be interesting to see how he responds to the demands of Sen. Conyers and three other Democratic Senators who are demanding that they be briefed on the emails that he knows nothing about. They want it by Monday.
 
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IGBT

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10 days until the coalition comes together . . .
(Note: Comments are Hillary's own words for each group)
1) The Irredeemables (Tea Partiers)
2) The Basket of Deplorables (The Alt-Right)
3) The Bucket of Losers (Bernie Supporters)
4) The Super-Predators (Black Men)
5) The Taco Bowls (Mexicans)
6) The Needy Hispanics (all non-Mexican Spanish Speakers)
7) The Backward Catholics (practicing Catholics)
8) The Fxcking Dumb Young People (Millennials)
. . . to elect Donald Trump as our Next President. A President for Everyone!
 

MongGrel

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10 days until the coalition comes together . . .
(Note: Comments are Hillary's own words for each group)
1) The Irredeemables (Tea Partiers)
2) The Basket of Deplorables (The Alt-Right)
3) The Bucket of Losers (Bernie Supporters)
4) The Super-Predators (Black Men)
5) The Taco Bowls (Mexicans)
6) The Needy Hispanics (all non-Mexican Spanish Speakers)
7) The Backward Catholics (practicing Catholics)
8) The Fxcking Dumb Young People (Millennials)
. . . to elect Donald Trump as our Next President. A President for Everyone!

So you showed up just to dumb down the conversation with a list of BS apparently ?

Most of those look like Trump comments.

The Turd has plopped into the Ming Vase.
 
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DrDoug

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10 days until the coalition comes together . . .
(Note: Comments are Hillary's own words for each group)
1) The Irredeemables (Tea Partiers)
2) The Basket of Deplorables (The Alt-Right)
3) The Bucket of Losers (Bernie Supporters)
4) The Super-Predators (Black Men)
5) The Taco Bowls (Mexicans)
6) The Needy Hispanics (all non-Mexican Spanish Speakers)
7) The Backward Catholics (practicing Catholics)
8) The Fxcking Dumb Young People (Millennials)
. . . to elect Donald Trump as our Next President. A President for Everyone!

And you're a member of groups 1, 2 and 9... that means you get to vote three times! Go for it!!
 
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10 days until the coalition comes together . . .
(Note: Comments are Hillary's own words for each group)
1) The Irredeemables (Tea Partiers)
2) The Basket of Deplorables (The Alt-Right)
3) The Bucket of Losers (Bernie Supporters)
4) The Super-Predators (Black Men)
5) The Taco Bowls (Mexicans)
6) The Needy Hispanics (all non-Mexican Spanish Speakers)
7) The Backward Catholics (practicing Catholics)
8) The Fxcking Dumb Young People (Millennials)
. . . to elect Donald Trump as our Next President. A President for Everyone!
Except most of those were not Clintons words. Few of them are completely made up. Of course it's not like you have enough integrity to actually look into it and correct this bullshit post.
 

DrDoug

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Be careful of believing second hand accounts. Lynch hasn't said anything & I doubt that she will.

Guess who Comey hasn't obtained a warrant for the emails from yet? Lynch's DOJ... think about it and it makes sense. Why go announcing something when you don't even know what you have?

The election, that's why. Comey even said as much.
 

Zorba

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Wow! So, they don't have a search warrant to look at the emails and have no clue what are in them but it was worth sending a letter to congress about them. And it's precedence to not comment on an investigation. SMH

What I don't get is if they have justification for a search warrant now (which is still questionable), why didn't they request one for her accounts months ago? These seems like nothing but a fishing expedition.

I personally hope Comey is fired the day after the election, attempting to affect a presidential election based on nothing but a fishing expedition is crap.
 
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sdifox

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What I don't get is if they have justification for a search warrant now (which is still questionable), why didn't they request one for her accounts months ago? These seems like nothing but a fishing expedition.

I personally hope Comey is fired the day after the election, attempting to affect a presidential election based on nothing but a fishing expedition is crap.

nope FBI's Internal Affairs should investigate.
 

fskimospy

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10 days until the coalition comes together . . .
(Note: Comments are Hillary's own words for each group)
1) The Irredeemables (Tea Partiers)
2) The Basket of Deplorables (The Alt-Right)
3) The Bucket of Losers (Bernie Supporters)
4) The Super-Predators (Black Men)
5) The Taco Bowls (Mexicans)
6) The Needy Hispanics (all non-Mexican Spanish Speakers)
7) The Backward Catholics (practicing Catholics)
8) The Fxcking Dumb Young People (Millennials)
. . . to elect Donald Trump as our Next President. A President for Everyone!

The bullshit nature of this aside you're actually trying to say that we should elect Donald Trump because... his opponent called people names.

LOL. The world doesn't have enough irony for this.