FBI reopens investigation into Clinton email use

[Jaskalas]

Hillary says it... just names.
Trump says it... it defines him. Racist, evil, etc...

 

[fskimospy]

Hillary says it... just names.
Trump says it... it defines him. Racist, evil, etc...

You are basically making the dictionary definition of false equivalence right now.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Hillary says it... just names.
Trump says it... it defines him. Racist, evil, etc...

The difference here is Trump has actually said all of the things he's criticized for saying.

 

[lopri]

Somewhat of an off-topic, but what can Hillary do to get rid of Bill? I am getting sick of him and also have a bad feeling that he will eventually drag his wife down to disgrace.

 

[MongGrel]

Yes this is becoming the lowest point...

Trump mounts bid to turn Clinton controversy to his advantage

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-trump-idUSKCN12U013?il=0

Why is it some people think Trump speaking at rally's like he is speaking to a crowd of 10 year olds is a qualification for POTUS ?

On a side note.

Clinton enjoys solid lead in early voting: Reuters/Ipsos poll

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-election-poll-idUSKCN12T0J6

 

[DrDoug]

Another source, Comey went against Justice Department advice:

Senior Justice Department officials warned the FBI that Director James B. Comey’s decision to notify Congress about renewing the investigation into Hillary Clinton’s private email server was not consistent with long-standing practices of the department, according to officials familiar with the discussions.

FBI officials who work closely with Comey on Thursday contacted attorneys at the Justice Department. Their message: Comey intended to inform lawmakers of newly discovered emails potentially connected to the Clinton email investigation.

Justice officials reminded the FBI of the department’s position “that we don’t comment on an ongoing investigation. And we don’t take steps that will be viewed as influencing an election,” said one Justice Department official who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe the high-level conversations.

Comey knew exactly what he was doing and that Justice disagreed with him. It's surprising how the FBI is concerned that they can't keep this info secret while it's being investigated and yet they somehow do that in most other cases.

 

[trenchfoot]

edit - Post edited in light of Kazukian's information.

 

[Kazukian]

Comey couldn't sit on it because other law enforcement agencies uncovered it during their investigation of Weiner, there was significant risk they would leak. Hillary isn't exactly well liked by law enforcement, they tend to think in a linear/black & white fashion.

 

[IGBT]

http://www.breitbart.com/big-govern...amille-paglia-hillary-clinton-woman-disaster/

Feminist Camille Paglia on Hillary Clinton: ‘The Woman Is a Disaster’
It’s an outrage how she’s played the gender card. She is a woman without accomplishment. “I sponsored or co-sponsored 400 bills.” Oh really? These were bills to rename bridges and so forth. And the things she has accomplished have been like the destabilization of North Africa, causing refugees to flood into Italy… The woman is a disaster!

And, of course, that is the image of women conveyed by Clinton and her feminist colleagues. At a recent campaign stop in Haverford, Pennsylvania, Clinton – with daughter Chelsea in tow – told an audience of mostly women and young people that women need taxpayer-funded assistance, courtesy of the government, from cradle to grave in order to survive.

 

[DrDoug]

/links to White Nationalist web site...

I thought you idiots hate feminists...lol! What a barrel of monkeys...

 

[agent00f]

Comey is in a no win situation. What we know is that there is a device, there may be emails and those emails may be relevant to the FBI's investigation.

Given the public interest, this development was going to break regardless.

Can you imagine the firestorm if this leaked one day or two weeks or one month after Clinton's victory on election day? How about one day prior? If anything, Comey did Clinton a favor in that she still has time for damage control.

Unless of course the FBI believes it now has leverage over Abedin or Weiner relevant to Clinton or otherwise.

In nominating Clinton, Democrats accepted the risk of their candidate being the subject of an FBI investigation, and the implications inherent to where that investigation might land. The same as the Republicans accepting the inherent risk of their candidate being on record saying some pretty deplorable things. Both are facing the repercussions of those decisions.

I don't envy Comey. I was of course disappointed in the FBI's decision not to indict, but I respect the disciplined and logical way Comey defended that decision. I respect his subsequent professionalism under intense GOP scrutiny. It doesn't make sense that he would suddenly undermine all of that as he has nothing to gain.

It is amazing how quickly Trump moved to now embrace Comey. while Clinton and her surrogates now want his head, with the smear campaign against him now in full force.

Seems he has plenty to gain by turning people who hold a grudge and 100% against him to 100% for him, by doing nothing of consequence. Clinton will win, so whatever fallout from the left will blow over.

Rather brilliant move worth studying by future generations.

Two things, I don't take pills for any mental condition and I don't visit the MoveOn site. Perhaps you have confused me with somebody else.

And I'd watch that anti government rhetoric if I were you. I'm sure if Trump gets in it won't be long before Joseph McCarthy will be breaking down your front door. But then, well, you're probably not much of one to think about what you are saying. Probably just crazy people do that.

Good luck on your crusade, Watch out for rabbit holes and smiling cats as you go snicker snack and come galumphing back.

Zstream & various friends here aren't really anti-gubmint, given they've come to rely on the white welfare checks and it's the same government that protects them (and their jobs) from the ethnics. What they're actually doing is political theater, where they get to play the macho John Galt figure despite lacking any of the redeeming competence, not unlike gun packing suburban commandos who fantasize about killing some darkie who comes to take the good china.

 

[DrDoug]

Monday may be an interesting day at work for Comey based on these tweets by Kurt Eichenwald of Newsweek:

Word from inside @FBI. FURIOUS at Comey, think he's mishandled public revelations from get go. "Outrageous incompetence" one agent told me.

— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) October 29, 2016

If Comey doesn't get ahead of this, going to have a mutiny at @FBI. "This is why u say 'We dont talk about investigations'" one told me....

— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) October 29, 2016

Re: anger within @FBI at Comey. I am getting this at the Special Agent, ASAC and SAC level. Those are the troops. (Most of em GOPrs)....

— Kurt Eichenwald (@kurteichenwald) October 29, 2016

Sounds like some of the troops aren't happy with new partisan trappings that the boss has hung around their necks.

 

[boomerang]

Hillary's not gonna sing, but I guarantee Weiner is. He's out of friends, out of favors, and facing real prison time as a child sex predator. The only card he has left to play is to be an informant. Whatever he got from Huma that incriminates Hillary, he's gonna make sure the FBI gets.

Hillary's gonna trade her pantsuits in for a jumpsuit. And Anthony Weiner should probably go into witness protection before he joins the ranks of Vince Foster and Ron Brown.The contents of the laptop may implicate others. I suspect Bill Clinton is in for a good throttling .

Excellent post and based on the realities it contains, Hillary should step aside.

Huma is in deep shit. She perjured herself when talking with the FBI. This is good because based on her background she should never, ever, have been in the positions she had or held, along with the security clearances she had. Assuming she escapes prison time she's done politically on a public scale. But as long as the Foundation exists, she'll have employment. She's broken no law that would make the Clinton's abandon her because it appears there is no law that the Clinton machine feels actually applies to them.

Weiner is facing prison time. In public office he behaved like a spoiled, angry teenager. When listening to him, I was embarrassed for him. Wasted emotion on my part because it was standing operating procedure for him. The guy is a total piece of shit.

Slick Willy married the two of them. Well, birds of a feather do flock together.

Hillary doesn't know when the hammer is going to drop on her. This could shake out in many different ways and none of them are good for the country. Obama said, "I do think at a certain point you've made enough money". How much is enough for the Clinton's? If they can't decide for themselves somebody else needs to decide for them. It won't be the Obama administration, that's for certain. It won't be the media, that's for certain. It won't be her ardent, brain dead supporters that can't recognize a criminal when they see one, that's for certain. The burden falls on the shoulders of the public and the FBI which will be under the most intense pressure imaginable from Obama and the DOJ to sweep this under the rug - again. But she must step aside.

Democrats picked her and democrats own that decision. It's got to be difficult to have any respect whatsoever for anyone who supports her. I lost it a long time ago.

Republicans told the Bush family that their dynasty will not be continued. It appears it falls on the shoulders of republicans to not just curtail the Clinton dynasty but to tear it asunder. No Clinton should be allowed to feather a nest on Pennsylvania Avenue again.

Lock her up.

 

[boomerang]

Monday may be an interesting day at work for Comey based on these tweets by Kurt Eichenwald of Newsweek:







Sounds like some of the troops aren't happy with new partisan trappings that the boss has hung around their necks.

Smells like bullshit and coming from Kurt Eichenwald, I'm certain it is. It reads exactly like it is, progressive journalist that writes for progressive publications attempts to run interference for Clinton campaign by tweeting bullshit.

 

[DrDoug]

/high fives another moron in a special yellow helmet and then relates a recent hallucination due to oxygen deprivation from auto-asphyxiation...

Pull your pants up...

Smells like bullshit

Brush your teeth.

 

[sontakke]

What is shocking is that his Boss told him "don't do it" but he still did it. If that is not insubordination, I do no know what is! I will not disclose the identity of his box. You will have to find it out by yourself. If I were to do something like this and then it blows up in my face, I would be walked out the door.

 

[Starbuck1975]

Monday may be an interesting day at work for Comey based on these tweets by Kurt Eichenwald of Newsweek:







Sounds like some of the troops aren't happy with new partisan trappings that the boss has hung around their necks.

There were reports of mutiny as well after Comey chose not to indict. Those didn't materialize as any more than wishful thinking by the GOP.

This is feeling more like an epic mic drop. The Obama administration dumped the entire political weight of the indictment on the FBI courtesy of Bill Clinton's little tarmac maneuver and the Republicans have been assaulting his integrity even since the decision not to indict. The FBI got it from both ends.

We will soon discover how the Weiner device came into play. He literally threw raw meat back into the cage. I suspect going public was due to either the active or assumed political maneuvering that would surround getting a warrant. I suspect that is what this is about.

 

[DrDoug]

This isn't a mic drop, we don't even know what the emails are or if they are relevant or copies. That doesn't matter though, the damage has been done and it doesn't really matter what the content is. That was Comey's point in releasing this, last time Republicans ripped him for not charging due to lack of evidence of a crime... this time he's letting the public do the judging without any evidence of a crime.

Keep celebrating though, I'm sure that you're sure that something bad is in those emails...

 

[Starbuck1975]

This isn't a mic drop, we don't even know what the emails are or if they are relevant or copies. That doesn't matter though, the damage has been done and it doesn't really matter what the content is. That was Comey's point in releasing this, last time Republicans ripped him for not charging due to lack of evidence of a crime... this time he's letting the public do the judging without any evidence of a crime.

Keep celebrating though, I'm sure that you're sure that something bad is in those emails...

Given my posting history on Clinton, you will ironically find nothing celebratory by me in this thread. When the news hit on Friday, my first reaction was disbelief and my second reaction was fear. Fear that this plays right into Trump's narrative of a fixed election. My third reaction was anger at Clinton for placing her personal ambitions above the nation. Did anyone honestly expect this to play out any differently? There was going to be an October surprise, it was just a question of from where.

 

[DrDoug]

Given my posting history on Clinton, you will ironically find nothing celebratory by me in this thread. When the news hit on Friday, my first reaction was disbelief and my second reaction was fear. Fear that this plays right into Trump's narrative of a fixed election. My third reaction was anger at Clinton for placing her personal ambitions above the nation. Did anyone honestly expect this to play out any differently? There was going to be an October surprise, it was just a question of from where.

You could say the same thing about Trump (except for Clinton claiming a fixed election)...lol! As far as Clinton putting her personal ambitions first, she isn't the first one, is she? No. Politicans tend to be ambitious people, it's what powers them. Most other people too.

You are making the call and have determined that she put her personal ambitions above those of the nation. That's called an opinion, one I disagree with but enough for me...

 

[Jhhnn]

What is shocking is that his Boss told him "don't do it" but he still did it. If that is not insubordination, I do no know what is! I will not disclose the identity of his box. You will have to find it out by yourself. If I were to do something like this and then it blows up in my face, I would be walked out the door.

We don't know that. It's speculation & innuendo. The only verifiable information we have is Comey's letter. The rest is bullshit that may or may not be true in the particulars.

 

[Bird222]

Somewhat of an off-topic, but what can Hillary do to get rid of Bill? I am getting sick of him and also have a bad feeling that he will eventually drag his wife down to disgrace.

It's called a divorce but I wouldn't hold my breath on her getting one.

 

[fskimospy]

Given my posting history on Clinton, you will ironically find nothing celebratory by me in this thread. When the news hit on Friday, my first reaction was disbelief and my second reaction was fear. Fear that this plays right into Trump's narrative of a fixed election. My third reaction was anger at Clinton for placing her personal ambitions above the nation. Did anyone honestly expect this to play out any differently? There was going to be an October surprise, it was just a question of from where.

I mean you pretty clearly dislike Clinton, so let's not fool ourselves here. I sincerely doubt this changes the dynamic of the race in any meaningful way. If anything I expect the polls to move slightly in Trump's direction for a few days before returning to a 4-5 point lead for Clinton.

I mean do you really think that someone who has heard all the other email shit up to this point would hear 'we found some new ones we didn't check' and suddenly say 'that's it, I'm voting for the sex offending con artist'?

 

[Kazukian]

Monday may be an interesting day at work for Comey based on these tweets by Kurt Eichenwald of Newsweek:







Sounds like some of the troops aren't happy with new partisan trappings that the boss has hung around their necks.

Actually, it's been leaking for weeks the opposite has been happening, think about it, law enforcement has been pretty unhappy with Hillary distancing herself from them and embracing even the controversial BLM causes & victims. Comey's bosses may not be happy, but the rank and file is probably cheering him. They tend to be black and white, linear thinking folks, it's why they gravitated to law enforcement and the job has reinforced their beliefs.

 

[Jhhnn]

Comey's performance before Congress bolstered the respect he earned from me long ago over the Patriot Act. I also think it comes back to intent, like with the whole email controversy. What did Comey intend?

Anybody who thinks that James Comey wants Donald Trump to be President is out of their fucking mind. Once that is understood, assigning partisan intent to Comey's actions makes no sense whatsoever.

I think he's made a huge mistake in being overly concerned about his duty to Congress but that doesn't mean it wasn't an honest mistake.

The part about Lynch is mere speculation. As with his press conference, I doubt he consulted with her at all. The other side of it is that she's carefully avoided entanglement in the whole thing right from the start.