FBI breaks up plot to kidnap Michigan Governor, overthrow state government

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Jhhnn

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It’s more agitprop than psyops. Social media gives these event fertile ground to grow and prosper. I know they were found on a Fadbook, but in the years past, these fools were neutered because it was very difficult for them to commingle and exchange “ideas.” Not they have a ready made system where they can create languages to hide what they are doing and use encryption software. The fabric that holds that together are the social media outlets which by the way are where the agitprop is bombarded on the weakest minds.

Remember when right wing GOP propaganda & Russian propaganda were oppositional? Now they're indistinguishable & complimentary. Witness the 2016 campaign. For 40 years, at least, the goal of Russian propaganda has been to render Americans incapable of making rational decisions. Their success is obvious.
 

MtnMan

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If Biden wins, it will be an interesting lame duck. I think the country will be spared if he quickly resigns and has Pence issue blanket pardons. The country won't be spared if he uses the lame duck to undermine the results.
If you think he is fucking nuts now, wait until he goes down in flames by a 15 - 25% margin nationwide. It will definitely be 25th amendment time.
 

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Remember when right wing GOP propaganda & Russian propaganda were oppositional? Now they're indistinguishable & complimentary. Witness the 2016 campaign. For 40 years, at least, the goal of Russian propaganda has been to render Americans incapable of making rational decisions. Their success is obvious.

Amazingly, Reagan was responsible for decimating them in the Cold War and bringing down their communist system years later.
 
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Jhhnn

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Amazingly, Reagan was responsible for decimating them in the Cold War and bringing down their communist system years later.

The Soviets came undone because of internal rot, a failure to govern constructively. Their economy couldn't function w/o the black market. Nobody believed in their system & ideology any more. Other than the nuclear arms deal, Reagan was mostly just there.
 

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The Soviets came undone because of internal rot, a failure to govern constructively. Their economy couldn't function w/o the black market. Nobody believed in their system & ideology any more. Other than the nuclear arms deal, Reagan was mostly just there.

I am not a Reagan fan, but the arms escalation helped that along. It accelerated there demise, made the cracks fissures and help those who did not believe in the system the opportunity to do something. Chernobyl did much in their demise too.
 

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The Soviets came undone because of internal rot, a failure to govern constructively. Their economy couldn't function w/o the black market. Nobody believed in their system & ideology any more. Other than the nuclear arms deal, Reagan was mostly just there.
ding...ding...ding
 
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sportage

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Could this be a prerequisite to what is to come election day?
Trump, stirring up the dark-side of his base to hang around polls harassing voters? To prepare for the inevitability that Donald Trump will lose? Wow, just WOW!!!!
THIS IS the final outcome of electing someone like Donald Trump. Someone that believes in dictatorship, someone that believes in total control, and someone who will absolutely refuse to leave office when voted out. All that we have remaining despite this era of Donald Trump are FREE ELECTIONS. Obviously, THAT is something Donald Trump can not and will not tollerate, AND.... something that Donald Trump will make sure never happens again should Donald Trump be reelected.
This will be not only a challenged election, this in all likelihood will be a bloody election.
 

woolfe9998

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Michigan AG on Maddow tonight. Evidently several of the plotters can be seen in photos at the protests back in April.
 

MtnMan

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Who ever does that kind of digging needs to be looking at how many of those arrested have attended Trump rallies.
 

dawp

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Hang em, high noon, in front of the Michigan capitol building?
na, put them in a locked room with one of their IEDs ,chained to the walls with a big, red display counting down for a month.
 
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pmv

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I am not a Reagan fan, but the arms escalation helped that along. It accelerated there demise, made the cracks fissures and help those who did not believe in the system the opportunity to do something. Chernobyl did much in their demise too.

Absolutely this. The US beat them in a debt-race, exposing the economic weakness of the Soviet system, at the cost of damaging their own economic development (though redistributing wealth upwards at home as a 'bonus'). Reagan begat Putin and Putinism, so if the Russians helped bring about Trump it's just a form of payback. Or maybe 'blowback'.

It all goes round in a circle of dysfunction and failure. Socialism is not compatible with a thriving economy, but it seems to be turning out that capitalism is not compatible with democracy.