FBI breaks up plot to kidnap Michigan Governor, overthrow state government

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Jhhnn

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I never said not to vote first, but having a backup defense plan is still smart. I'm not sure what reality you are watching but you have right wingers assassinating protesters, cops, plotting to overthrow state governments. I'm not sure if you've taken a history course lately, but the past is littered with the violent overthrow of government. And let's not forget, the Republicans are poised to steal a legitimate election and rule by coup if that's needed to maintain control of power.

They're poised to talk shit & act stupid until the election results knock the starch out of them. With Trump gone, they'll crawl back under the rocks from whence the y came, from where they've always been.
 

Lanyap

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I'm no fan of Barr, but the FBI usually compartmentalizes this stuff & plays it close to the vest for opsec. It's entirely reasonable that he may not have known at the time of the interview. It's important to remember that the FBI keeps tabs as well as they can over an unfortunately large number of far right whackaloo organizations. Back in the 60's, the joke was that there were more FBI informants in the Klan than actual Klansmen.


Yes, but, this was a governor of a state. Barr knew. He was briefed. This will come out when Donald is out.
 

Grey_Beard

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Yes, but, this was a governor of a state. Barr knew. He was briefed. This will come out when Donald is out.

I get what you are trying to say, but he cannot tell something about an ongoing investigation. I do not like him or what he does, but understand that if he knew he should act like he did not.
 
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cytg111

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Then what? What is the next step.
I get the “trial” so they charge and convict her and I assume kill her. What are the next steps?
Trial? They were gonna put her through a “trial” and then, based on the outcome, maybe, maybe, not kill her.
Yeeeaaaaaaaa right.
 

eelw

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Nah, it’s a Antifa plot. They entrapped these fine young men. Also evil plan by Pelosi to wrongly impeach Barr.

But this is the Dems way out to block ACB nomination. While it just looks petty to impeach Trumpity Dumpity again. They now have just cause to impeach Barr
 
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If she drown she would be found innocent and free to go. If she swam guilty and stoned to death. That is how I assume a trial by these lunatics would go.

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They look like fucking cartoon characters. The 2nd on looks like a fucking Troll doll mixed with the troll from the first Troll movie. The 4th looks like the big troll looking not Troll Doll Trolls (I have a niece that watched Trolls like a thousand times). The last one looks like a character from "Howdy Neighbor" (although I think there's another I might be thinking of now). Middle one looks like DB Cooper. First one just looks like typical modern white guy caricature, and you could see the clean cut white savior badass tearing his elongated earlobes while he beats the shit out of him and his bros at a bar after they try to intimidate him or do something to a woman.

Everyone but tRump and the Republicons.

Oh, they know. In fact they're likely counting on it. Turmp even might to the point his life depends on it (because he'd rather destroy America than face any repercussions for his behavior).
 

feralkid

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They look like fucking cartoon characters. The last one looks like a character from "Howdy Neighbor" (although I think there's another I might be thinking of now).


I was thinking more of a 'Chip' Hitler look.

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kage69

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So we have an FBI that still contains professionals, and another unequivocal indication that Barr is a partisan POS only there to do the traitor's bidding.

Hurry up November, Americans have a cult to put down.
 
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woolfe9998

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Lengthy summary of the plot here:


One thing I'd like to know, if the confederate flag is a symbol of "southern pride" then why do a bunch of right wing extremists in the state Michigan have one on their porch?
 

pete6032

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So basically Fox broke up with his girlfriend (was dumped) and had to go live in the basement of a vacuum shop. He repeatedly said he didn't care about anything any longer and referred to Whitmer as a "bitch." Sounds like he had issues with women and was severely depressed. This little kidnapping plot was probably his only outlet from a really shitty life full of poor decisions.
 

uclaLabrat

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Lengthy summary of the plot here:


One thing I'd like to know, if the confederate flag is a symbol of "southern pride" then why do a bunch of right wing extremists in the state Michigan have one on their porch?
Because they're traitors or racists.

"Southern pride" has nothing to do with it. Im the first gen born outside of Charleston since before the Civil War. No one talks about "southern pride". Southern pride is a fucking dogwhistle. What did the south have to be proud about? Money made off the backs of the enslaved? Cause they certainly weren't cultural bastions (outside of white supremacy) or champions of science.
 

woolfe9998

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Because they're traitors or racists.

"Southern pride" has nothing to do with it. Im the first gen born outside of Charleston since before the Civil War. No one talks about "southern pride". Southern pride is a fucking dogwhistle. What did the south have to be proud about? Money made off the backs of the enslaved? Cause they certainly weren't cultural bastions (outside of white supremacy) or champions of science.

Yes I'm aware of all that, more or less. Was interested in an explanation from one of the people here who has made this claim about the confederate flag. It's sort of difficult to rationalize it as being about southern pride when violent, right wing extremists in Michigan are displaying it.
 

uclaLabrat

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Yes I'm aware of all that, more or less. Was interested in an explanation from one of the people here who has made this claim about the confederate flag. It's sort of difficult to rationalize it as being about southern pride when violent, right wing extremists in Michigan are displaying it.
Then I dont understand your question; anyone possessing the circumspection required to answer it honestly wouldn't be dumb enough to hold those beliefs in the first place, ergo it's a catch 22.
 

dawp

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Because they're traitors or racists.

"Southern pride" has nothing to do with it. Im the first gen born outside of Charleston since before the Civil War. No one talks about "southern pride". Southern pride is a fucking dogwhistle. What did the south have to be proud about? Money made off the backs of the enslaved? Cause they certainly weren't cultural bastions (outside of white supremacy) or champions of science.
I would call them racist traitors, they are both.
 

Jaskalas

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One thing I'd like to know, if the confederate flag is a symbol of "southern pride" then why do a bunch of right wing extremists in the state Michigan have one on their porch?

The battle flag of the army of northern Virginia is also called the Rebel Flag.

Rebels tend to use extreme measures.
And Extremists tend to rebel.

The crossover is regrettable for anyone who genuinely romanticizes and or honors the rebel spirit of the South. It is often conflated with being the rebel spirit of America via the Revolutionary War and seen more of a continuation of the same. Southern Heritage is a very different view on things, something many people apparently know nothing about. Your only explanation is evil, and those dumb !@#$s sure give you plenty of reasons to think that. But there are many confused Republicans out there who don't know any better.
 

sdifox

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Lengthy summary of the plot here:


One thing I'd like to know, if the confederate flag is a symbol of "southern pride" then why do a bunch of right wing extremists in the state Michigan have one on their porch?

Elementary school dropouts
 

DarthKyrie

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Remember when right wing GOP propaganda & Russian propaganda were oppositional? Now they're indistinguishable & complimentary. Witness the 2016 campaign. For 40 years, at least, the goal of Russian propaganda has been to render Americans incapable of making rational decisions. Their success is obvious.

People wonder why I say that the USSR actually won the Cold War even though they collapsed. You actually get it.
 
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Homerboy

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not sure if this has been covered here yet or not?
New filings claim there was a Plan B the militiamen had drawn up, that involved a takeover of the Michigan capitol building by 200 combatants who would stage a week-long series of televised executions of public officials.

And, according to government documents now on file in lower Michigan court, there was also a Plan C -- burning down the state house, leaving no survivors.
 

woolfe9998

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not sure if this has been covered here yet or not?

Only thing new in that article is this:

Despite the violent nature of the charges, including an alleged plan to hold a mock treason trial for the governor of Michigan once she was kidnapped, several of the defendants have had bond reductions and are now free.

WTF those guys are out on bail?
 
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