Father charged with "headshot" killing of drunk driver that killed his 2 sons

[z1ggy]

This is definitely a problem. The fact is they know they are drunk.

In my case, I had 4-6 beers in an 8 hour window. There is not a way possible for me to blow as high as I did unless I chugged all those beers just before driving home.

I was there most of the night because I didn't want to see my ex bitching, I was also broke at the time so more of less forced to milk my beers and I was trying to keep them going.

The bartender was willing to testify as well on my behalf that I only had what was on my tab and he didn't see me drinking with anyone else (I was at the bar in front of both bands that played that entire night).

The fact is most people that drink have sadly driven with one too many (over .10)...it's the same as those that say they have had a ton of sex and always used a condom.

Now a days, it's easy to just take a cab (even though cab fare in S. Florida is an utter rape, like $20+ for 5 miles) or have a non-drinking friend drop me off at my house.

Now that my fiancee is pregnant I have a guaranteed designated driver for a few months

There's no way you blew a .16 while having 4-6 beers, lol it's literally impossible unless your a 80lb Asian woman. 4-6 beers within 8 hours should leave you at almost 0% BAC.

 

[ThinClient]

You are sharing details only discussed in L&R.

You've never talked in OT about being involved with a woman who's married to someone else? Yes you have.

You've never talked about your sole biological child in OT? Sure you have, and you just admitted to it.

Cry more, buddy.

 

[ThinClient]

There's no way you blew a .16 while having 4-6 beers, lol it's literally impossible unless your a 80lb Asian woman. 4-6 beers within 8 hours should leave you at almost 0% BAC.

SHOCKING that a drunk is caught in yet another lie about himself.

 

[alkemyst]

There's no way you blew a .16 while having 4-6 beers, lol it's literally impossible unless your a 80lb Asian woman. 4-6 beers within 8 hours should leave you at almost 0% BAC.

That was the defense and it would have been not worth defending esp. in Florida as there are very few cases won against a breathalyzer (at least at that time about 15 years ago).

I had witnesses, police video showing the situation they put me in, the communication of my ex yelling to her 'friend' in the background, etc.

The lawyer was the best and he laid it out that unless I had something to prove, he'd take the cheap way out and be over it.

It's never affected me.

 

[alkemyst]

SHOCKING that a drunk is caught in yet another lie about himself.

Except that is not a lie. That is what happened that night.

Normally I am about 2-3 beers an hour and then taper off prior to the end...

When I am out and about I try to keep it at 2 beers an hour and usually out less than 4 hours to begin with. I am around 200 lbs. Usually then I am not driving anyway though.

It was a bad break that night.

Like I said though, I am not defending that I never had too much to drink and did drive. At that time I was way past doing that.

 

[ThinClient]

That was the defense and it would have been not worth defending esp. in Florida as there are very few cases won against a breathalyzer (at least at that time about 15 years ago).

I had witnesses, police video showing the situation they put me in, the communication of my ex yelling to her 'friend' in the background, etc.

The lawyer was the best and he laid it out that unless I had something to prove, he'd take the cheap way out and be over it.

It's never affected me.

So the logical explanation is that either 1) you were lying or 2) the cops don't bother calibrating their gear.

What's more likely? That a drunk is lying or that officers charge you and convict you after falsifying evidence against you?

 

[alkemyst]

I was already arrested prior to blowing. They didn't have me blow until I was at the station. In the car on the way there they he was laughing about me having to enjoy my overnight in jail. I don't think even he knew I was going to fail the breath test. The cause for my stop was claiming I didn't maintain my lane which is all that's needed for due cause.

It was just harassment from my ex and her friend who was a cop in the neighborhood and it just escalated into something major.

I had seriously thought about fighting it. If I didn't just graduate a second time from college and had no savings, I would have paid the $10-20k and done it. More than likely I blew actual blood into the machine which is not calibrated to read blood directly but the average amount of blood in one's respiration. Research online in this is all over the place, however; there are papers that my lawyer had that clearly proved with tests that live blood whether due to throat or mouth issues (and even ulcers) could dramatically alter a breathalyzer reading at the time (for the machine I was tested on...not all machines are equal either).

However; even my insurance wasn't affected so it made no real point to go into debt over something that would be over versus keeping it going for over a year.

I am going to refrain from further posting about my own experience as despite simply sharing a related story, this is just derailing this thread with side crap about my personal life and family.

 

[smackababy]

I am going to refrain from further posting about my own experience as despite simply sharing a related story, this is just derailing this thread with side crap about my personal life and family.

Your "related story" was "once I drank 4 beers and the cops busted me for DUI with 0.168 BAC! Obviously, it was incorrect and fabricated. Despite that, I didn't fight it, but that doesn't stop me from bragging about how I had mountains of evidence to prove my innocence, but chose not to use it."

The person your story relates to in this incident is a scumbag who killed two kids and got shot in the face. Think about that.


EDIT: Oh no! I had the incorrect BAC and someone was butthurt about it.

 

[ThinClient]

Your "related story" was "once I drank 4 beers and the cops busted me for DUI with 0.175 BAC! Obviously, it was incorrect and fabricated. Despite that, I didn't fight it, but that doesn't stop me from bragging about how I had mountains of evidence to prove my innocence, but chose not to use it."

The person your story relates to in this incident is a scumbag who killed two kids and got shot in the face. Think about that.

Truth bombs up in this bitch.

 

[darkswordsman17]

Sorry I can't be assed to read through the thread seeing as how Alkemyst went on one of his drunk driving crusades (which is to say, defend driving drunk...), but what happened exactly and what was the outcome?

 

[ThinClient]

Sorry I can't be assed to read through the thread seeing as how Alkemyst went on one of his drunk driving crusades (which is to say, defend driving drunk...), but what happened exactly and what was the outcome?

Dude gets drunk and goes plowing into a car on the side of a neighborhood road. The car he hit was being pushed by 2 sons and a father. The 2 sons got nailed and died. The father walked 50 yards to his house and came back with a gun to shoot the drunk driver in the head and killed him.

Cops show up, can't find gun but arrest the father. They're pretty sure he did it so they test him but find ZERO powder residue on his body or his clothing. Cops turn the father's house upside down and still don't find the gun but they find ammo that's the same caliber for what killed the drunk driver.

Not sure what's going to happen next.

 

[smackababy]

Sorry I can't be assed to read through the thread seeing as how Alkemyst went on one of his drunk driving crusades (which is to say, defend driving drunk...), but what happened exactly and what was the outcome?

Guy was driving drunk and hit a family pushing their car along the road about 50 yards from the families home. Two kids were killed in front of their father, who allegedly entered his home, got a gun, and returned to murder the drunk driver. Now, a year or so later, there is no physical evidence linking the father to the murder. No GSR, no murder weapon, etc. Vigilantism has prevailed!

 

[MongGrel]

Dude gets drunk and goes plowing into a car on the side of a neighborhood road. The car he hit was being pushed by 2 sons and a father. The 2 sons got nailed and died. The father walked 50 yards to his house and came back with a gun to shoot the drunk driver in the head and killed him.

Cops show up, can't find gun but arrest the father. They're pretty sure he did it so they test him but find ZERO powder residue on his body or his clothing. Cops turn the father's house upside down and still don't find the gun but they find ammo that's the same caliber for what killed the drunk driver.

Not sure what's going to happen next.

After he walked back to the house for a gun and probably the wife was informed, I'm curious if they checked her for powder residue.

*edit* but she was in the truck when it happened ?

:hmm:

Just a bad thing all over, I'd be hard pressed to convict the guy myself, but I guess that's not how things work in reality.

 

[ThinClient]

After he walked back to the house for a gun and probably the wife was informed, I'm curious if they checked her for powder residue.

*edit* but she was in the truck when it happened ?

:hmm:

Just a bad thing all over, I'd be hard pressed to convict the guy myself, but I guess that's not how things work in reality.

Yeah, the wife was in the truck along with the 2 other children the couple had, infant/toddler.

 

[Rakehellion]

Apparently, your family can't hold their alcohol. Doesn't make everyone else that drinks a bad person.

You're a bad person because you drank an entire fucking 6-pack of beer and decided to drive an automobile.

And to top to all off, you act like a worthless frat fuck and make light of the situation by joking about how much alcohol you can tolerate and saying drunk driving is no big deal. Classic alcoholic.

 

[Rakehellion]

Alkemyst seems like the type of guy to go to a party and rape a drunk girl and think it's no big deal.



Over the top.

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[Craig234]

I read several pages and can't find a status of the case. Any summary?

 

[smackababy]

I read several pages and can't find a status of the case. Any summary?

No, you didn't read several pages. The status is literally 4 posts above this one.

 

[Rakehellion]

In a thread about two kids getting killed by a drunk driver, this piece of shit has the nerve to say:

People act like there are tons of DUI drivers killing people.

 

[thraashman]

There's no way you blew a .16 while having 4-6 beers, lol it's literally impossible unless your a 80lb Asian woman. 4-6 beers within 8 hours should leave you at almost 0% BAC.

Except that is not a lie. That is what happened that night.

Normally I am about 2-3 beers an hour and then taper off prior to the end...

When I am out and about I try to keep it at 2 beers an hour and usually out less than 4 hours to begin with. I am around 200 lbs. Usually then I am not driving anyway though.

It was a bad break that night.

Like I said though, I am not defending that I never had too much to drink and did drive. At that time I was way past doing that.

According to this site. A 200 lb man having 6 beers across 8 hours would have a 0.00% BAC. I am sure you had more than you claim.

 

[smackababy]

According to this site. A 200 lb man having 6 beers across 8 hours would have a 0.00% BAC. I am sure you had more than you claim.

A drunkard doesn't remember how much they've had? Color me shocked!

It is fairly common knowledge that you can process around 1 drink (12oz of beer, 4oz of wine, or 1.5oz of liquor) an hour without becoming inebriated, especially to the point of impairment. Unless, of course, you're Asian and have that mutation where you can't process alcohol properly. Asian Glow will commence immediately.

 

[Rinaun]

I'm on my way home from the liquor store with six bottles of booze on my back seat for my wedding reception on Saturday. You get a flat tire and decide to stop and change it halfway into the road. I crash into you, kill your dog, lose consciousness from the collision, and all my booze splashes around inside my car. Is it OK to shoot me in the head because you determine for a fact that I am drunk as hell?

What if I'm having some type of medical episode where the symptoms match a bunch of stuff from your list and I crash into you? Still OK to shoot me because, with all of your knowledge and experience, you have determined I am drunk as hell and deserve it?

The murderer in this case demonstrated extremely poor decision making capability. It is unbelievable to me that he was able to make the decision to kill based off a sound analysis of his victims sobriety.

Dude, go outside and get some air. That theorycrafting is so strong. Broken liquor making it smell like alcohol? Then where is the broken glass bottles? Medical Episode? Like being too slurred to respond or responding "I've only had a few drinks"?

 

[Rinaun]

You're suffering logic and comprehension failure. The system is what defines what behaviour and actions are criminal, it's unable to control the individuals actions, it just defines what is and is not allowed and what the consequences will be.

Emotional reactions do not what justify doing whatever you please thankfully and the ability to control them is what separates criminals from the rest. Or else when you piss off your neighbour by shoveling your snow over to his lawn he'll be a-okay to come over and slam you in the head with your shovel, because, revenge and stuff...

You never answered the question I asked. Does your country allow a drunk person who murders two others to walk after 10 years? Just name the country and I'll look it up for you if you are too pussy to talk about that.

 

[Rinaun]

I am probably one of the most honest posters here.

Sigging that right now.

EDIT:

You're the one with the DUI and the drinking problem, buddy.

lol I'd have to agree. Someone with a DUI in this thread shouldn't be posting in here, let alone calling others out.

 

[waggy]

A drunkard doesn't remember how much they've had? Color me shocked!

It is fairly common knowledge that you can process around 1 drink (12oz of beer, 4oz of wine, or 1.5oz of liquor) an hour without becoming inebriated, especially to the point of impairment. Unless, of course, you're Asian and have that mutation where you can't process alcohol properly. Asian Glow will commence immediately.

When i was younger (in my 20's) i drank more then i do now. I also weighed less ( 115 vs 150). I could drink 4-6 beers in a night and be ok.

Now that i'm 40 i don't binge like i used to (though drink more times a week) but 2 beers now and i'm feeling it. anymore then that when i go out i don't feel good enough to drive or hell anything.

A persons tolerance makes a huge difference.