oh wow ... and there it is ;-)Originally posted by: wolf2009
drivers released
http://support.ati.com/ics/sup...ledge&questionID=38664
now .. and i am asking for pure speculationOriginally posted by: DerekWilson
oh wow ... and there it is ;-)Originally posted by: wolf2009
drivers released
http://support.ati.com/ics/sup...ledge&questionID=38664
YGPMOriginally posted by: apoppin
now .. and i am asking for pure speculationOriginally posted by: DerekWilson
oh wow ... and there it is ;-)Originally posted by: wolf2009
drivers released
http://support.ati.com/ics/sup...ledge&questionID=38664
IF this issue got no publicity and was reported - in the usual manner - do you think we would have a new hotfix by now?
i DO know that potential negative publicity will light a fire under any company's ass
i also "know" someone in AMD/ATi's driver team got called on the carpet and got his butt chewed out
[look at the way CatalystMaker responded at that other site's thread]
i think it is kinda cool, they pulled a couple of guys aside and said - fix it - NOW!!
after all it IS FarCry2 and very popular - it was a shame to put up with crappy performance from a hot "fix"
Now what i want to see is the performance of the new driver vs the the regular driver vs the old broken hot fix
- that will tell us something
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lol I just pm'ed apoppin about this.... then jumped back in here and you posted too. Thing is the hitching also happens with my hd3850 512 so it isn't hd4800 specific. But it is dx 10 specificOriginally posted by: SSChevy2001
DX10 Still hitching.
Update with new drivers. DX10 still hitching, but original IQ problem was fixed. Really until DX10 hitching is solved it's worthless to even benchmark cause it's not playable even when the frame rates are good.
Enjoy :beer:
Benchmarks Results
Benchmark New 8.10 hotfix AI on
Benchmarks 8.10 hotfix AI on
Benchmarks 8.10 hotfix AI off
Benchmarks 8.11 Beta
Ingame Results
Ingame NEW 8.10 hotfix AI on
Ingame 8.10 hotfix AI on
Ingame 8.10 hotfix AI off
Ingame 8.11 Beta
Guess it's back to DX9.
Yeah really this thread is a joke. Who cares about DX10 IQ when it's not playable?Originally posted by: lavaheadache
lol I just pm'ed apoppin about this.... then jumped back in here and you posted too. Thing is the hitching also happens with my hd3850 512 so it isn't hd4800 specific. But it is dx 10 specific
I bet Ubisoft is the only one that can fix this problem. Maybe they shouldn't have butchered DX10.1.Originally posted by: hclarkjr
i bet catalyst 8.11 will be out sooner over this issue
It's not so much that the game runs better, but they take things out that drag the framerates for that game down. If they coded the drivers so that a game only rendered 80% or so of the current frame correctly, you'd get a nice bump in framerate but at the cost of IQ. Basically what this whole issue was about, except this time it's a bug and not an "optimization".Originally posted by: mruffin75
Please keep in mind people that this is only a game
As far as optimizations go based on filenames? I see absolutely nothing wrong with that.. unless of course it's a synthetic benchmark, in which case it's just done for marketing purposes only.
If the engineers at ATI/Nvidia can squeeze more performance out of a game by having specific code in their driver for it, then so be it. In the end it just means that we get a better end-user experience. Now if it produces image glitches, then as long as the company looks into it, and resolves the issue, then there's no problem?
Is this even with that framerate cap command activated?Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
DX10 Still hitching.
Update with new drivers. DX10 still hitching, but original IQ problem was fixed. Really until DX10 hitching is solved it's worthless to even benchmark cause it's not playable even when the frame rates are good.
Guess it's back to DX9.
No it's not. Personally don't want to have to artificially fix a problem that should be there in the 1st place.Originally posted by: thilan29
Is this even with that framerate cap command activated?Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
DX10 Still hitching.
Update with new drivers. DX10 still hitching, but original IQ problem was fixed. Really until DX10 hitching is solved it's worthless to even benchmark cause it's not playable even when the frame rates are good.
Guess it's back to DX9.
I actually haven't been wrong about a single thing in this thread, which makes this all the funnier. If you want to be a professional, you have to start behaving as one. Since you don't seem to have ever taken a journalism class of any type, I'll tell you what one of the first things they teach you in Journalism 101 happens to be: never stake your journalistic integrity on someone else, or their actions. You only report facts, not hopes, wishes, or hearsay.Originally posted by: apoppin
First, you need to learn to gather facts and then process them correctly - nevermind your faulty conclusions
Now, here's the amateur way to do the same:Originally posted by: DerekWilson
also, i can confirm that AMD is working on a fixed fix. i had a version that still needs more tweaking, but they said they'd get another one out soon.
See the huge difference in those two approaches, especially since the one you wrote was written ~60 hours ago?Originally posted by: apoppin
AMD has a new FC2 hotfix for tomorrow!!
issue solved
DX10 stuttering is only present with ATI drivers.Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
I bet Ubisoft is the only one that can fix this problem. Maybe they shouldn't have butchered DX10.1.
First of all your cluelessness about this matter and your inability to judge journalism is pathetic. Don't lecture me about my work and my chosen profession. i have been quite successful in my field without any input from you, up-till-now and i think i will manage fine without listening to your silly nonsense.Originally posted by: myocardia
I actually haven't been wrong about a single thing in this thread, which makes this all the funnier. If you want to be a professional, you have to start behaving as one. Since you don't seem to have ever taken a journalism class of any type, I'll tell you what one of the first things they teach you in Journalism 101 happens to be: never stake your journalistic integrity on someone else, or their actions. You only report facts, not hopes, wishes, or hearsay.Originally posted by: apoppin
First, you need to learn to gather facts and then process them correctly - nevermind your faulty conclusions
How a professional conveys a point/message:
Now, here's the amateur way to do the same:Originally posted by: DerekWilson
also, i can confirm that AMD is working on a fixed fix. i had a version that still needs more tweaking, but they said they'd get another one out soon.
See the huge difference in those two approaches, especially since the one you wrote was written ~60 hours ago?Originally posted by: apoppin
AMD has a new FC2 hotfix for tomorrow!!
issue solved
BTW, this post also serves as a thread bump, for the people who weren't aware the second fix had been released.
i just got home from work .. and strangely .. i am at workOriginally posted by: lavaheadache
lol I just pm'ed apoppin about this.... then jumped back in here and you posted too. Thing is the hitching also happens with my hd3850 512 so it isn't hd4800 specific. But it is dx 10 specificOriginally posted by: SSChevy2001
DX10 Still hitching.
Update with new drivers. DX10 still hitching, but original IQ problem was fixed. Really until DX10 hitching is solved it's worthless to even benchmark cause it's not playable even when the frame rates are good.
Enjoy :beer:
Benchmarks Results
Benchmark New 8.10 hotfix AI on
Benchmarks 8.10 hotfix AI on
Benchmarks 8.10 hotfix AI off
Benchmarks 8.11 Beta
Ingame Results
Ingame NEW 8.10 hotfix AI on
Ingame 8.10 hotfix AI on
Ingame 8.10 hotfix AI off
Ingame 8.11 Beta
Guess it's back to DX9.
I'm read some mix things about it also happening of nvidia, but for the most part yes it's ATi related.Originally posted by: wolf2009
DX10 stuttering is only present with ATI drivers.Originally posted by: SSChevy2001
I bet Ubisoft is the only one that can fix this problem. Maybe they shouldn't have butchered DX10.1.
I am playing on 9800GT 1 GB with 180.43 drivers in DX10 with Vsync on. There is no hitching or slowdowns. Playing at 1280x1024 2xAA , at >35 fps
Same here micro stuttering with good fps 50+
tested with 4870 and new driver
and 8800gtx and new driver.
DX9 run smooth, but with 10-20 frames less then DX10-.but micro stuttering is bad.
There's no excuse why this game should of came out hitching and crashing on ATi cards. After what happen with AC, it's clear that Ubisoft doesn't know how to properly implement dx10.1.On my Geforce GTX260 core 216 video card, using beta 180.42 drivers I have the micro stuttering problem too in DX10. So it's not just with ATI cards.
Why do Nvidia cards have no problem with it?There's no excuse why this game should of came out hitching and crashing on ATi cards. After what happen with AC, it's clear that Ubisoft doesn't know how to properly implement dx10.1.
Originally posted by: Sable
http://www.theinquirer.net/gb/...ate-nvidia-accuses-ati
We were pointed to a thread over at Anandtech where Nvidia fanboy and focus group member nRollo seemed to be banging on about the image quality of some rocks (yes really... rocks. Small stones scattered about on the floor).
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA (sorry if this has been posted, long thread and I'm lazy)
As impressive as The Inquirer's reputation and track record are, I'm not feeling anything but amused by the mention.Originally posted by: hclarkjr
unbelievable, usually i just read nrollo's post for amusement but this looks like he may have bit off more than he could chew this time