Fallout 4 - it's official! Coming Nov 10, '15

[futurefields]

I think it looks good. It looks like Fallout. It has a bit more color which is nice. It looks like the same exact engine that's for sure.

 

[Scooby Doo]

The scene with the deathclaw, the background looks amazingly destruction.

 

[UberNeuman]

Well if it wasn't for the modders, the game would be a quick play-once and uninstall.

"They would have gotten away with it if it weren't for those meddling modders!"

I've done something I swore I'd never do. I pre-ordered Fallout 4. Couldn't pass it up for 41.99.

\i've gone cray cray!

 

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[cmdrdredd]

Strange... you can play as a tank, which your pretty much stuck with in witcher, in first person and never shot anything. Heck you can even go melee in Fallout, if your that brave

Have you seen Bethesda's character animations? You can play in 3rd person but it's hilariously bad. I think first person works for Fallout cause it's got guns. I don't think Elder Scrolls games benefit from it except to hide the awful animations.

 

[BoberFett]

[Insert "Take my money" meme here]

 

[Regs]

I'm excited for it's return with a little face lift -- though I was very excited at first -- the game looks a little dated in terms of graphics. It's not the end-all-be-all but I hope it's not a prelude to functionality, UI, flow and game play. I hated sitting through 100 lines a text per NPC encounter. Knowing Bethesda though, I wont be let down in how engulfed I will be in the post-apocalyptic world and more craziness of which the vault life played.

Graphics are important because it is a "3d game" . You will be lying to yourself if you thought graphics, the very thing that make your brain stimulated by looking into a computer screen, where not important to you.

 

[ImpulsE69]

Graphics are important because it is a "3d game" . You will be lying to yourself if you thought graphics, the very thing that make your brain stimulated by looking into a computer screen, where not important to you.

You'd be wrong...very very wrong.

 

[showb1z]

Both FO3 and FONV crashed almost literally every minute for me. To make them even remotely playable, I had to search out mods. However, if I really like the game I'm willing to do that.

(This rant isn't directed at you, just a general observation.)

Why is this ok though? Why don't we expect their $60 game to actually work on release?
Every single release modders get to have the privilege of fixing their broken games cause it's always a stuttery, ugly, crashing mess. They can't even be bothered to put in a functional PC UI, a UI mod is pretty much mandatory.
And paid mods could take this a whole new level. Soon people may very well be paying for essential bugfixing/enhancement mods, with Bethesda taking a nice 50% cut of every sale of course. So they're even rewarded for making barely functional games.

I really can't respect or get excited for any new game by a dev like that. Imo it's only worth it to pick up a Bethesda game in a sale a year after release when it's been fixed by the community and all DLC is included.

 

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[Dahak]

[Insert "Take My Bottlecaps" meme here]

FTFY, or as UberNeuman posted earlier

I think I will wait on the pre-order for this. Giving how low the pre-orders for Arkham Knight have been, although it was not much different. maybe $5-$10 more when I initially did the pre-order

 

[Face2Face]

Skyrim is a better game, but Oblivion had much more of a 'wow' factor IMHO. Similar as Morrowind. Both games really pushed the open enviornment RPG genre and no other game like it was around. Oblivion was such a treat to explore...

Perhaps I should go back and give Oblivion another go. The big reason why I liked SKYRIM so much, was because it was a treat to explore. There were many times I would just stop and stare at my surroundings and say to my self, wow this game is amazing.

One of those moments was when I got to Blackreach

Anyway, this thread is about Fallout 4, not SKYRIM...

 

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[Red Storm]

I wonder if they're finally gonna fix gun play in this one. Sniping in FO without mods to fix it was so very bad.

 

[Regs]

I wonder if they're finally gonna fix gun play in this one. Sniping in FO without mods to fix it was so very bad.

And melee!

 

[Squeetard]

They need to fix a whole bunch of things. The Skyrim and FO3 games are the same formula/engine as Oblivion, nothing has changed.

 

[exar333]

I had far more of those moments in Oblivion. Contributing factors being that a huge portion of the Skyrim map was virtually barren (either scrubby wasteland or bare ice/snow), while Cyrodiil was covered in green forests and lush countryside, and then there was the grand Imperial city and all the brilliant white Ayleid ruins instead of that drab ancient nord rubble everywhere. The lighting was so much better. Beautiful rich colors vs Skyrim's hazy, washed out look. I can't count how many times I've stopped to bask in one of Oblivion's spectacular sunsets.

Couldn't have said this better myself...

Skyrim will probably age better than Oblivion over time, but it wasn't nearly as revolutionary. Oblivion was AMAZING when it came out and there wasn't a game like it. It looked fabulous and was a graphics benchmark all the way up to Crysis 18 months or so later.

As you say, Skyrim was great, but a bit bland on the color palate in comparison. The biggest complaint for Oblivion was the enemy-leveling which matched your character, which is commonly identified. The goal of that was great (to explore everywhere and always have a challenge) but the execution left something to be desired, depending on how your character build went.

I think I will probably do a run through Oblivion again this year, as its been a LONG time since the first playthrough. Its time.

 

[zinfamous]

I had far more of those moments in Oblivion. Contributing factors being that a huge portion of the Skyrim map was virtually barren (either scrubby wasteland or bare ice/snow), while Cyrodiil was covered in green forests and lush countryside, and then there was the grand Imperial city and all the brilliant white Ayleid ruins instead of that drab ancient nord rubble everywhere. The lighting was so much better. Beautiful rich colors vs Skyrim's hazy, washed out look. I can't count how many times I've stopped to bask in one of Oblivion's spectacular sunsets.

see, I feel the exact opposite. Oblivion was overdone and boring--I've seen that setting everywhere.

I much prefer the Northern world of Skyrim, and it had gorgeous forests as well, lush hotsprings, vibrant meadows, all of that. It also had weather and fog and an ambiance that I never felt in Oblivion.

I think perception of visuals in these games are largely influenced by bias towards a particular setting. Skyrim looked like a real world to me--Oblivion was more of the typical fantasy realm based on the same tired English style midieval world that we've seen over and over again.

 

[raasco]

93 hours of Fallout 3
242 hours of Fallout NV
8 hours of Skyrim
I think I know which series that I preferred.

 

[Mandres]

For most people whichever Elder Scrolls game was your first is the one that you feel was the best/most revolutionary. The first time being exposed to that kind of open world leaves an impression.

I can say with absolute certainty that anyone who felt Oblivion was the best in the series never played Morrowind first

 

[werepossum]

(This rant isn't directed at you, just a general observation.)

Why is this ok though? Why don't we expect their $60 game to actually work on release?
Every single release modders get to have the privilege of fixing their broken games cause it's always a stuttery, ugly, crashing mess. They can't even be bothered to put in a functional PC UI, a UI mod is pretty much mandatory.
And paid mods could take this a whole new level. Soon people may very well be paying for essential bugfixing/enhancement mods, with Bethesda taking a nice 50% cut of every sale of course. So they're even rewarded for making barely functional games.

I really can't respect or get excited for any new game by a dev like that. Imo it's only worth it to pick up a Bethesda game in a sale a year after release when it's been fixed by the community and all DLC is included.

I agree 100% - in theory. Games like the Fallout or Elder Scrolls games (which I bought but have never played) or the Witcher series I cut a LOT more slack simply because they give sooo much content. I would rather mod a game to my liking than have Bethesda take the additional time it really needs out of production time, so that I get a better looking and less buggy but smaller game.

 

[shortylickens]

93 hours of Fallout 3
242 hours of Fallout NV
8 hours of Skyrim
I think I know which series that I preferred.

On the first playthrough of Skyrim, most people dont accomplish too much in just 8 hours.

The game gets a LOT better. Dragons, shouts, crafting, enchanting, Guilds, priests, companions, houses, housecarls, good stuff.

Also I recommend some basic mods like SkyUI and Cloaks of Skyrim and the weapon & armor packs. And new spells.

 

[thehotsung8701A]

All that money and they couldn't even get a good game engine?

 

[shortylickens]

I'm excited for it's return with a little face lift -- though I was very excited at first -- the game looks a little dated in terms of graphics. It's not the end-all-be-all but I hope it's not a prelude to functionality, UI, flow and game play. I hated sitting through 100 lines a text per NPC encounter. Knowing Bethesda though, I wont be let down in how engulfed I will be in the post-apocalyptic world and more craziness of which the vault life played.

Graphics are important because it is a "3d game" . You will be lying to yourself if you thought graphics, the very thing that make your brain stimulated by looking into a computer screen, where not important to you.

Deus Ex is way more fun than most of the crap that came out in 2014.

 

[frozentundra123456]

(This rant isn't directed at you, just a general observation.)

Why is this ok though? Why don't we expect their $60 game to actually work on release?
Every single release modders get to have the privilege of fixing their broken games cause it's always a stuttery, ugly, crashing mess. They can't even be bothered to put in a functional PC UI, a UI mod is pretty much mandatory.
And paid mods could take this a whole new level. Soon people may very well be paying for essential bugfixing/enhancement mods, with Bethesda taking a nice 50% cut of every sale of course. So they're even rewarded for making barely functional games.

I really can't respect or get excited for any new game by a dev like that. Imo it's only worth it to pick up a Bethesda game in a sale a year after release when it's been fixed by the community and all DLC is included.

I preloaded skyrim and stayed up tp midnight so i could start playing with a friend the minute it unlocked. I must have at least a hundred hours in the game and cant recall it ever crashing.

Edit: And sorry to say, i just dont get the reverence for Morrowind. I loved skyrim, but have stsrted morrowind several times and cant get into it at all.