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Victorian Gray

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buckshot24 said:
No dummy, she didn't claim to be from Indonesia at all! Quit embarrassing yourself.
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Embarrassed? Moi? I'm not the one who doesn't know basic geography.

btw,

Indo-(ˈɪndəʊ-)
combining form
1. (Placename) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.
2. (Languages) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.
3. (Peoples) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
 
buckshot24

buckshot24

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Victorian Gray said:
Embarrassed? Moi? I'm not the one who doesn't know basic geography.

btw,

Indo-(ˈɪndəʊ-)
combining form
1. (Placename) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.
2. (Languages) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.
3. (Peoples) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
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Haha! You're a sweet sweet man.
 
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michal1980

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Victorian Gray said:
Embarrassed? Moi? I'm not the one who doesn't know basic geography.

btw,

Indo-(ˈɪndəʊ-)
combining form
1. (Placename) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.
2. (Languages) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.
3. (Peoples) denoting India or Indian: Indo-European.

Collins English Dictionary – Complete and Unabridged, 12th Edition 2014 © HarperCollins Publishers 1991, 1994, 1998, 2000, 2003, 2006, 2007, 2009, 2011, 2014
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are you once again being obtuse?

Fauxcahontas made the claim she is American-Indian
 
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Jhhnn

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buckshot24 said:
Calling us naive isn't going to convince us we're wrong. I suggest a different approach.
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Please. You have no intention of ever doing what I suggested for any reason whatsoever. You don't have it in you. You're thinking that Trump has made bigotry fashionable again so that you don't have to hide your own nor do you have to confront it, either. You kinda like the way it feels, apparently.
 
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Venix

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MajinCry said:
I gave you the benefit of the doubt. Ya decided to call Native Americans "Indians", a good ol' holdover from the days o' Columbus The Sex Slaver. But whatevs.
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"Indians" is a mainstream and perfectly acceptable term. The Smithsonian just opened the National Museum of the American Indian last decade. Plenty of native tribes call themselves Indians, like the Miccosukee Tribe of Indians of Florida.
 
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And it used to be perfectly mainstream and acceptable to call African Americans "Negro" and "******".

I'd wager that Indian is closer to Negro, and Squaw being closer to the latter. Either way, still fucked up, especially when ya consider the roots o' the term and how it disenfranchises the Native Americans.

I wonder what Indian Americans think of Native Americans being called Indian Americans.
 
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buckshot24

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MajinCry said:
And it used to be perfectly mainstream and acceptable to call African Americans "Negro" and "******".

I'd wager that Indian is closer to Negro, and Squaw being closer to the latter. Either way, still fucked up, especially when ya consider the roots o' the term and how it disenfranchises the Native Americans.

I wonder what Indian Americans think of Native Americans being called Indian Americans.
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Don't you have some haggis to eat?

When proved wrong you double down. If I were you I wouldn't wager anything.
 
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Venix

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MajinCry said:
And it used to be perfectly mainstream and acceptable to call African Americans "Negro" and "******".

I'd wager that Indian is closer to Negro, and Squaw being closer to the latter. Either way, still fucked up, especially when ya consider the roots o' the term and how it disenfranchises the Native Americans.

I wonder what Indian Americans think of Native Americans being called Indian Americans.
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You're clueless. The Census Bureau has asked American Indians what term they prefer. 50% prefer to be called American Indians. Only 37% prefer Native American.

But please feel free to continue being offended on other people's behalf. It's not at all patronizing.
 
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Victorian Gray

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Venix said:
You're clueless. The Census Bureau has asked American Indians what term they prefer. 50% prefer to be called American Indians. Only 37% prefer Native American.

But please feel free to continue being offended on other people's behalf. It's not at all patronizing.
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Just a thought but that was 20 years ago at a point in time when aboriginal/first nation populations around the world were starting to seriously reassess who they were within the context of their larger societies. It was also a time when they were just beginning to form global connections between various groups.

I suspect that if asked again the figures would probably be a bit different. Even then almost 50% did not identify with that term to the point of wanting to self identify with a different term.
 
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Venix

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Victorian Gray said:
Just a thought but that was 20 years ago at a point in time when aboriginal/first nation populations around the world were starting to seriously reassess who they were within the context of their larger societies. It was also a time when they were just beginning to form global connections between various groups.

I suspect that if asked again the figures would probably be a bit different. Even then almost 50% did not identify with that term to the point of wanting to self identify with a different term.
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That's largely baseless speculation, but let's assume that it's true that fewer people prefer American Indian today than 20 years ago. That still doesn't make it offensive.

The largest North American tribes, the Navajo Nation and Cherokee Nation, both refer to themselves as "Indians" on their websites. The tribe that most recently petitioned the federal government for recognition calls itself the Pamunkey Indian Tribe. ~20% of all federally recognized tribes have "Indian" in their names.

It is not an incorrect or offensive term.
 
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nothing was as great last night as listening to two older couples just rip into Warren and how they felt she was awful, "a champion for bankruptcy by making the process much easier, and advocate for the poor and the destitute" and they chuckled at the Pocahontas reference ... and they were in Massachusetts.
 
Meghan54

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bozack said:
nothing was as great last night as listening to two older couples just rip into Warren and how they felt she was awful, "a champion for bankruptcy by making the process much easier, and advocate for the poor and the destitute" and they chuckled at the Pocahontas reference ... and they were in Massachusetts.
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After looking at your thread about "illegals getting getting subsidized health insurance in CA" and how incorrect you were "transcribing" the article to this forum, which you failed miserably, I have little faith you accurately portrayed the above situation, if it ever happened in the first place.
 
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