Edited video costs USDA worker her job.

[Carmen813]

They amended the resolution at least once during the debate ...

From what I gather, the portion in bold above was the catalyst for the resolution, the big problem here is that it is all a lie, as a matter of fact there's a $100,000 reward for video footage from any of the hundred cameras that were rolling non stop during the event to prove it happened. They have made a video using all the source footage start to finish and it clearly shows nothing of the sort happened. The other is that there's some quite misleading BS about racist signs, of which I have seen very few, maybe three total that are definitely racist, that they apparently are flooding TEA Party rallies, and they are full of racist, and their racist signs, and that's complete BS.

Got a rhetorical question for you. Let's say the world was flipped and the tea party now controls all of the federal government. If a bunch of armed Black and Latino American citizens organized a rally where they peacefully demonstrated against this government, how do you think that would play in the minds of white Americans? Not just the tea party movement, but all of white America.

I haven't read the actual resolution, but my understanding is that Tea Party leaders were condemned for not actively fighting against racism. I couldn't care less for what earlier resolutions said. I'm unaware of any significant attempts to address racism as a national issue within the tea party movement, and to me, that is akin to tolerance.

To quote MLK "I am coming to feel that the people of ill will have used time much more effectively than the people of goodwill. We will have to repent in this generation not merely for the vitriolic words and actions of the bad people, but for the appalling silence of the good people. "

 

[Carmen813]

But...but... Booooooooosh!

Funny, I seem to remember lots of Democrats believing that evidence too, myself included. Perhaps that's why I didn't specify who I was talking about.

Your partisanship is showing.

 

[Carmen813]

lol, look at all the leftist nuts on here trying to turn the story onto the right. It doesn't matter -the bitch is a racist and shouldn't be in such a position of power.



Her integrity is toast with that admission and any previous and future work is suspect - solely because she struggled with having to help a white person instead of a black person. She might have just been trying to be honest and tell a story about learning but it doesn't matter - when you start looking at race and then if it's not "your own" you only do "just enough" ? Puhfugginleeze. Anyone who thinks she should get her job back or shouldn't have been fired/forced to resign is messed in the head.

So publicly admitting that you've struggled to come to terms with your own biases makes you a racist in CADs world. Guess I'm a racist.

I'd much rather have a person working for me who acknowledges their own biases and attempts to move past them than a person who pretends they don't exist. On a side note, never seek professional help as we are all required to take courses where we do exactly that.

 

[Carmen813]

Might be a lack of executive experience here coming to bite him in the ass?

If you fling enough mud some of it will stick.

 

[heyheybooboo]

lol, look at all the leftist nuts on here trying to turn the story onto the right. It doesn't matter -the bitch is a racist and shouldn't be in such a position of power.


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btw --- really cute invective you have going on there. Seek help, seriously.




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[CADsortaGUY]

btw --- really cute invective you have going on there. Seek help, seriously.




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The only "fail" going on here is that people are now trying to shift the story away from her because of some feelgood nonsense. The FACT is - she admitted to changing how hard she works based on race. She can claim she doesn't now because she learned or some nonsense but the fact remains she admitted she does/did it. She has no place in power.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

So publicly admitting that you've struggled to come to terms with your own biases makes you a racist in CADs world. Guess I'm a racist.

I'd much rather have a person working for me who acknowledges their own biases and attempts to move past them than a person who pretends they don't exist. On a side note, never seek professional help as we are all required to take courses where we do exactly that.

that's great she is working on getting past her racism. But that doesn't mean she should be in a position of power while working on it.

 

[Carmen813]

that's great she is working on getting past her racism. But that doesn't mean she should be in a position of power while working on it.

I sense you haven't seen the full context of her speech yet.

If you really believe this, than you are going to have to find a way to remove basically everyone from a position of power. As I said, I'm much rather have a person in power who is conscious of their biases and how they impact their decisions than a person who doesn't believe they have any. In this society such a non-biased person does not exist.

 

[nobodyknows]

Starting to look like the NAACP, the Sec of Ag and possibly Obama got played by the Wingnut press.

LOL, if they "got played" that easily we're all in BIG trouble.... at least all of "my kind".

 

[Narmer]

lol, look at all the leftist nuts on here trying to turn the story onto the right. It doesn't matter -the bitch is a racist and shouldn't be in such a position of power.



Her integrity is toast with that admission and any previous and future work is suspect - solely because she struggled with having to help a white person instead of a black person. She might have just been trying to be honest and tell a story about learning but it doesn't matter - when you start looking at race and then if it's not "your own" you only do "just enough" ? Puhfugginleeze. Anyone who thinks she should get her job back or shouldn't have been fired/forced to resign is messed in the head.

You're stupid.

EDIT: Get off your damn high horse and try to understand things within context.

 

[PokerGuy]

In this society such a non-biased person does not exist.

Oh, so in your world everyone is a racist, the only distinction is some who have openly admitted it and some who haven't? Interesting. I prefer to believe that some people are racist and others are not. Those who are should not be put in any position of power.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

I sense you haven't seen the full context of her speech yet.

If you really believe this, than you are going to have to find a way to remove basically everyone from a position of power. As I said, I'm much rather have a person in power who is conscious of their biases and how they impact their decisions than a person who doesn't believe they have any. In this society such a non-biased person does not exist.

I have read/listened to her speech. As I said - it doesn't matter a bit that she was telling a story about her supposed learning. The FACT is - she has/had 2 levels of work and it's based on race.

Now beyond that - now she's supposedly been enlightened and now it's about rich vs poor. Is that any better? Shouldn't she be doing her job the same for everyone? black, white, rich, poor, leftist, Conservative...
Oh wait... that's right -this is the BHO admin - the gov't is only for certain people now...

 

[Red Dawn]

The only "fail" going on here is that people are now trying to shift the story away from her because of some feelgood nonsense. The FACT is - she admitted to changing how hard she works based on race. She can claim she doesn't now because she learned or some nonsense but the fact remains she admitted she does/did it. She has no place in power.

Yeah someone like you questioning someone elses integrity

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

What if she was the CEO of some company relating a story about how "24 years ago I wasn't an honest person. I used to embezzle from the company I ran. But I learned that isn't good." Would you want her running your company?

Once a racist, always a racist. I could see her retelling a story about how she learned a valuable lesson, but she was flippant and condescending and outright gloating about doing this. And when people in the crowd were cheering her on she smiled and continued.

She didn't seem remorseful. She stuck it to a white man because she had power over him and couldn't help but retell the story at an NAACP meeting. She was gloating about it. Lesson learned or not, she has established that she has biases (we all do) and that she doesn't have the ability to overlook her personal prejudice (most of us can) and do the right thing. This is ability - the ability to step back and do the right thing despite personal bias - is crucial when holding a position of power.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

Yeah someone like you questioning someone elses integrity

Says the guy.... oh wait... I can't say it out in the open...

 

[CitizenKain]

I have read/listened to her speech. As I said - it doesn't matter a bit that she was telling a story about her supposed learning. The FACT is - she has/had 2 levels of work and it's based on race.

Now beyond that - now she's supposedly been enlightened and now it's about rich vs poor. Is that any better? Shouldn't she be doing her job the same for everyone? black, white, rich, poor, leftist, Conservative...
Oh wait... that's right -this is the BHO admin - the gov't is only for certain people now...

You mean someone didn't give their all at first to a racist farmer, but eventually did and helped them. Maybe if you took off the klan hood when reading messages you'd come across that simple fact.

I still find it hilarious that the rightwing "media" completely made up a story, but its this lady's fault. Then again, if she was a white person talking about not helping some black farmer, you guys would fall over yourselves to defend her.

 

[Red Dawn]

she has established that she has biases (we all do) and that she doesn't have the ability to overlook her personal prejudice (most of us can) and do the right thing.

On the contrary, that's exactly what she did.

 

[Carmen813]

Oh, so in your world everyone is a racist, the only distinction is some who have openly admitted it and some who haven't? Interesting. I prefer to believe that some people are racist and others are not. Those who are should not be put in any position of power.

You are getting in the habit of putting words in my mouth today, try to stop that. No, in my world everyone has biases. Some who have admitted them, studied them, learned from them, and some who have not. Racism in particular does not need to be demonstrated through overt acts to exist.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

You mean someone didn't give their all at first to a racist farmer, but eventually did and helped them. Maybe if you took off the klan hood when reading messages you'd come across that simple fact.

I still find it hilarious that the rightwing "media" completely made up a story, but its this lady's fault. Then again, if she was a white person talking about not helping some black farmer, you guys would fall over yourselves to defend her.

It's not backwards day so you're just plain wrong on all fronts. oh well, continue to wallow in your ignorance

 

[dainthomas]

that's great she is working on getting past her racism. But that doesn't mean she should be in a position of power while working on it.

If the video was from 24 years ago, it sounds like she already worked on it and got past it.

But I guess nobody who hasn't always been perfect deserves any responsibility. Since that officially excludes all human beings, sounds like the only option is for us to be ruled by cybernetic overlords.

 

[xj0hnx]

I haven't read the actual resolution, but my understanding is that Tea Party leaders were condemned for not actively fighting against racism. I couldn't care less for what earlier resolutions said. I'm unaware of any significant attempts to address racism as a national issue within the tea party movement, and to me, that is akin to tolerance.

The TEA Party isn't a civil rights group, they aren't even a nation wide organization, it is different groups in different areas with different leaders, that aside they DO in fact speak out against racism, they do in fact drive racist elements out of their ranks (you can find videos of them doing just this on Youtube). The whole NAACP resolution is nothing but a dog and pony show trying to make it look like the TEA Party is a bunch of racist. You can try to deny that is their intent, but calling on leaders of the TEA Party to purge their ranks IS in fact suggesting that racism is so prevalent in the TEA Party that it's a problem instead of the reality that it is just a few fringe loony's.

 

[Narmer]

I have read/listened to her speech. As I said - it doesn't matter a bit that she was telling a story about her supposed learning. The FACT is - she has/had 2 levels of work and it's based on race.

Now beyond that - now she's supposedly been enlightened and now it's about rich vs poor. Is that any better? Shouldn't she be doing her job the same for everyone? black, white, rich, poor, leftist, Conservative...
Oh wait... that's right -this is the BHO admin - the gov't is only for certain people now...

You're as dumb as a rock. Poor farmers, especially poor black farmers, face hardships that goes beyond those of the multinationals. This has been the case for over a hundred years. Their resources are relatively limited and they have a higher chance of losing their farms. Again, try to understand things within this context the lady was coming from. I don't know where you live but the world is unfair, bias, good, and bad. This government worker came to the realization, as many on this forum and in AMerica have realized, that it isn't about race, it's about class and the rich are kicking the poor's class. That phrase came from Warren Buffet, I believe. You may think America is all honkey-dorey but experience and reality says otherwise.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

You're as dumb as a rock. Poor farmers, especially poor black farmers, face hardships that goes beyond those of the multinationals. This has been the case for over a hundred years. Their resources are relatively limited and they have a higher chance of losing their farms. Again, try to understand things within this context the lady was coming from. I don't know where you live but the world is unfair, bias, good, and bad. This government worker came to the realization, as many on this forum and in AMerica have realized, that it isn't about race, it's about class and the rich are kicking the poor's class. That phrase came from Warren Buffet, I believe. You may think America is all honkey-dorey but experience and reality says otherwise.

There is no need to try to understand where she is coming from. All that needs to be known is that she is in a position of power IN THE GOVERNMENT you twit.
But again since it's obvious you can't read - it doesn't matter is she claims she changed it from a race based thing to a class based thing - she should be doing her job for everyone - not just who she wants to based on her bias.

 

[Apple Of Sodom]

On the contrary, that's exactly what she did.

Not at the time. She abused her power when she was in control. It doesn't matter how long ago it was. She has established she cannot be in that type of position.

As for the story telling, she was talking about "taking him to one of his own" and other things that sounded racist. It doesn't matter if she was telling a story, she could've use less perjorative terms.

What if I overcame racism and started telling a story from my youth? "One day, back when I didn't know any better, this great person came up to me and I dismissed him because of his color." Despite how my story ends, in the retelling process of the story I once again establish I am racist.

 

[CADsortaGUY]

If the video was from 24 years ago, it sounds like she already worked on it and got past it.

But I guess nobody who hasn't always been perfect deserves any responsibility. Since that officially excludes all human beings, sounds like the only option is for us to be ruled by cybernetic overlords.

Ah yes, the "perfect" defense - how nice. It doesn't help though because the goalpost wasn't put at "perfect" - just at consistent and professional integrity. She fails.