E2xxx and E4xxx overclock thread

[VirtualLarry]

He's got a "crappy" 1.325v VID, I have a "better" 1.2625v VID. It still doesn't make sense to me, but I'll go with it.

You know, I just thought of something. Perhaps we have the whole "low VID = high overclock" thing exactly BACKWARDS.

Perhaps the chips that have high leakage (poor chips), have a low VID, and chips that have low leakage (good chips), have a higher VID?

 

[BlueAcolyte]

CPU:e4500(m0)
FSB and Multi: 11x266 = 2.93GHz
Vcore:1.325 (stock voltage)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35-DS3L rev 2
RAM: 2gbs of ddr2 800 4-4-4-12 2.0V 2:3 (async)
Cooling: Cooler Master HyperTX2

My results: (Default VCore = 1.325)
stock speed undervolted at VCore = 1.25
2.42 at VCore = 1.257
2.66 at VCore = 1.262

I'm not sure the major voltage bump was worth it, but...

 

[hokiealumnus]

Good to see this thread is alive & well again. Great clocks folks. Nice to see these little chips still showing they've got it where it counts for very little investment!

 

[zach0624]

updated

 

[wishfool]

Well, hopefully I'll be able to throw up my stats someday soon. I'm in the process of gathering components(first build...woohoo) and on the fence between the e2180 or the e6750. Thinking bout going for the e2180 and having some fun with overclocking. That will also free up some money to put towards a good 8800gt(or maybe gts....g92 of course). Oh yeah, my motherboard is Gigabyte P35-DS3P. I have a couple of questions: (please don't be mad at me, I know this isn't the right thread probably, but hate creating threads for quick answers)

Could I set the FSB at 1333MHz with CPU Host Frequency or do I have to set it manually by upping the speed? First time building and overclocking so I don't want to just 'do it'.

How detrimental is the lowered cache on the proc. I'll eventually upgrade (probably a month or two after the new Penryn come out) but don't want to sabotage my experience with current build. Looking for a good gaming build so if it means I should spend the extra, well, I'll have to bite the big one and pay more. Main games I'm looking at playing right away are UT3, World in Conflict, and Orange box.

Thanks for any help and I'll post my results whenever I get it all done.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

The FSB is quad-pumped, so 1333FSB is 333MHz. That is your CPU clock frequency.

About the cache, tomshardware did something with that... I think 1MB of cache at 2.93GHz is equal to 4MB of cache at 2.66. Could be wroong

Any Core 2 Duo should murder those games, it's the graphics card that makes the biggest difference. Don't worry about OCing and building, I just finished my first one and I haven't blown anything up... yet.

 

[wishfool]

Originally posted by: BlueAcolyte
The FSB is quad-pumped, so 1333FSB is 333MHz. That is your CPU clock frequency.

About the cache, tomshardware did something with that... I think 1MB of cache at 2.93GHz is equal to 4MB of cache at 2.66. Could be wroong

Any Core 2 Duo should murder those games, it's the graphics card that makes the biggest difference. Don't worry about OCing and building, I just finished my first one and I haven't blown anything up... yet.

Thank you for the answer. However, I'm still in the dark about my first one. I understand about the FSB being quad-pumped and meant to ask if I could clock a e2180 the same way I could clock one with a 333 clock frequency(with the CPU Host Frequency) or if I would have to do it manually. Do I have to set it to 200MHz and increase from there, or could I set it at 333MHz. Since it seems I could easily overclock the bus speed over 333MHz it would almost make sense that I could just set the FSB to 1333MHz (333MHz quad pumped). However, I don't think that will work and I'll have to match my CPU Host Frequency in BIOS to my proc. and overclock from there. This is all new to me and have been researching a lot but on the fence about getting a e2180 because of budget issues right now. Seems sensible to take the plunge but I don't want to build a computer that can't play the games I currently want to play and force myself to wait an extra 2 months or so for Penryn and extra money. Either way about it, I'm probably gonna jump on the e2180 soon.

 

[lopri]

Another 100%

CPU:e2160 (m0)
FSB and Multi: 9x400
Vcore:1.472
Mobo: EVGA 680i A1
RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix
Cooling: Scythe Andy Samurai

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[brencat]

Originally posted by: wishfool
Seems sensible to take the plunge but I don't want to build a computer that can't play the games I currently want to play and force myself to wait an extra 2 months or so for Penryn and extra money. Either way about it, I'm probably gonna jump on the e2180 soon.

Hi wishfool. My bias aside (see sig), I'd go E2160 or E2180 and OC the snot out of it, then sell it later this year and drop in a Penryn when they become mainstream and cheaper. That is exactly what my plan was when I put together my PC last month. Saving $100 over the E6750 will allow you to buy a better video card which is the smarter move anyway.

The E2160 has a default 9x multiplier while the E2180 has a 10x multiplier. Obviously, you'll have downward access to the other multis (i.e. 6 - 9, and 6 - 10 respectively) via your bios. But you'll do most of your OCing with the FSB. When I built my system, I installed the OS, then made sure it was stable at stock speeds by running memtest86, along with Orthos for 3 hrs.

After two days of web surfing, etc and general break in, I started my OCing. Kind of knowing (after reading) what these chips were capable of, I went straight to 290 FSB on stock vcore no problem. After that, I increased FSB 5 clicks at a time, Orthos testing at each point. I have a very average chip -- absolutely nothing special here. Needed a bit more vcore than others in this thread to achieve my final setting of 3.25ghz. I had it up to 3.3ghz but Orthos small FFT test got it too hot for my taste even with my Tuniq + 4 case fans.

Anyway, this setup is plenty fast. I play COD4 @ 1280 x 1024 with everything maxed and get 65 FPS on the most detailed/closed quarters boards, and 85 - 91 FPS on most every other board. Is that fast enough for you?

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: lopri
Another 100%

CPU:e2160 (m0)
FSB and Multi: 9x400
Vcore:1.472
Mobo: EVGA 680i A1
RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix
Cooling: Scythe Andy Samurai

Nice one Lopri. These E2XXX chips and the 680i are a match made in heaven it seems.

 

[BlueAcolyte]

Err, the clock speed will be set at 200 at default. When you enable clock speed control, you can set it to whatever you want (999 if you feel like blowing something up.)

Your BIOS should sense everything in your computer and the values should reflect that. All you need to do is set the clock frequency higher. Penryn performance isn't that much higher than conroe or allendale anyway... Buy a Penryn when Nehalem comes out.

 

[wishfool]

Thanks brencat. Think I'm going to jump on a e2180 soon then since it is plenty fast enough for me.

Thank you again BlueAcolyte and that definitely clears that up. Without any experience thought you might be able to change the default thus my confusion. Gonna have some fun(and frustration I imagine) with this soon hopefully. Oh yeah, think I'm gonna stay away from 999

 

[BigJ]

Processor: E2160 M0
FSB and Multi: 9x333
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E
Vcore: 1.425 (1.390 actual)
RAM: 2x1gb OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition Rev. 2 (that's what the Fry's product description says)
Cooling: Stock


Set it out of the box to 333 and ran Orthos + Prime95 for 8 hours. Rock stable and no errors. It's for my parents so I don't think I'll be taking it any higher. Although I guess it couldn't hurt I'll definitely try dropping the multi and upping the FSB

 

[brencat]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Processor: E2160 M0
FSB and Multi: 9x333
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E
Vcore: 1.425 (1.390 actual)
RAM: 2x1gb OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition Rev. 2 (that's what the Fry's product description says)
Cooling: Stock


Set it out of the box to 333 and ran Orthos + Prime95 for 8 hours. Rock stable and no errors. It's for my parents so I don't think I'll be taking it any higher. Although I guess it couldn't hurt I'll definitely try dropping the multi and upping the FSB

Running at just 3ghz, I'd be surprised if you couldn't drop down the vcore to 1.365v or less and still be Orthos stable. My E2180 ran 2.9ghz @ stock vcore of 1.325 and needed 1.365v for 3.0ghz stable during testing.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: BigJ
Processor: E2160 M0
FSB and Multi: 9x333
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E
Vcore: 1.425 (1.390 actual)
RAM: 2x1gb OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition Rev. 2 (that's what the Fry's product description says)
Cooling: Stock


Set it out of the box to 333 and ran Orthos + Prime95 for 8 hours. Rock stable and no errors. It's for my parents so I don't think I'll be taking it any higher. Although I guess it couldn't hurt I'll definitely try dropping the multi and upping the FSB

It's best to stick with the default 9x multi. Core speed is KING.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: brencat

Originally posted by: BigJ
Processor: E2160 M0
FSB and Multi: 9x333
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E
Vcore: 1.425 (1.390 actual)
RAM: 2x1gb OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition Rev. 2 (that's what the Fry's product description says)
Cooling: Stock


Set it out of the box to 333 and ran Orthos + Prime95 for 8 hours. Rock stable and no errors. It's for my parents so I don't think I'll be taking it any higher. Although I guess it couldn't hurt I'll definitely try dropping the multi and upping the FSB

Running at just 3ghz, I'd be surprised if you couldn't drop down the vcore to 1.365v or less and still be Orthos stable. My E2180 ran 2.9ghz @ stock vcore of 1.325 and needed 1.365v for 3.0ghz stable during testing.

It's a gamble with any CPU. I could run 3.15GHz with 1.325 on E4300, L2 stepping. This chip runs hotter than hell until I lapped the top and bottom of the heat spreader.

 

[21stHermit]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Too bad Abit USA is phasing out the IP35-E board.

Is that an assumption or is that what Abit is telling you?

I have the IP35-E in my wishlist and it goes in/out of stock on a weekly basis. After BF it was dropped completely, but soon came back. Out of stock simply means: more on order.

I don't know anything about Abit's business model, but if I had a goose laying golden eggs, I wouldn't shoot it. The unit factory cost keeps declining as the volume goes up and until Nehalem, P35/s775 MB's are the sweet spot. Designing high frequency MB's is a bit of black magic, clearly the IP35-E has the magic.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal

Originally posted by: brencat

Originally posted by: BigJ
Processor: E2160 M0
FSB and Multi: 9x333
Motherboard: Abit IP35-E
Vcore: 1.425 (1.390 actual)
RAM: 2x1gb OCZ EL DDR2 PC2-6400 Gold Gamer eXtreme XTC Edition Rev. 2 (that's what the Fry's product description says)
Cooling: Stock


Set it out of the box to 333 and ran Orthos + Prime95 for 8 hours. Rock stable and no errors. It's for my parents so I don't think I'll be taking it any higher. Although I guess it couldn't hurt I'll definitely try dropping the multi and upping the FSB

Running at just 3ghz, I'd be surprised if you couldn't drop down the vcore to 1.365v or less and still be Orthos stable. My E2180 ran 2.9ghz @ stock vcore of 1.325 and needed 1.365v for 3.0ghz stable during testing.

It's a gamble with any CPU. I could run 3.15GHz with 1.325 on E4300, L2 stepping. This chip runs hotter than hell until I lapped the top and bottom of the heat spreader.

I have to play around with her. I'll probably do a lot more testing over the next week. We'll see how she likes the lower multi and see whats the max speed at 9x.

 

[SerpentRoyal]

Originally posted by: 21stHermit

Originally posted by: SerpentRoyal
Too bad Abit USA is phasing out the IP35-E board.

Is that an assumption or is that what Abit is telling you?

I have the IP35-E in my wishlist and it goes in/out of stock on a weekly basis. After BF it was dropped completely, but soon came back. Out of stock simply means: more on order.

I don't know anything about Abit's business model, but if I had a goose laying golden eggs, I wouldn't shoot it. The unit factory cost keeps declining as the volume goes up and until Nehalem, P35/s775 MB's are the sweet spot. Designing high frequency MB's is a bit of black magic, clearly the IP35-E has the magic.

I think there is an effort on the part of Abit USA to at least limit the flow of the IP35-E so that the inferior IP35V (same price) can get off the ground. NewEgg has HUGE VOLUME. You would think that the Egg would not want to order a few dozens at a time if they can get a 200-300 shipment. These are suppose to be plentiful in Europe.

 

[neonrainbows]

Hey I am new here and have been reading a ,ot on overklokking the past 2 weeks.
I had bad results using the AI booster in de Bios.
My Bios should have a MP according to the motherboard manual, but it is not there, only for the LDT there is a MP.

My system:
E4500@2.2GHZ
Kingston dual channel DDR2 800MHZ @ 533 (3:4), 1.8v
Asus P5nd2-se
Coolmaster CM 690 with 2 extra fans at top (Exhaust)

I want to start experimenting with manual clocking in the bios.

But I don;t know how my Bios settings should be. Right now it is:
C1 = off
Intel step technology is off
centrum spread is off
MP is 11 (CPU-Z) and I cannot change it
FSB = 200 (QDR=800)


One thing that struck me was that the motherboard can handele 533 and 667 RAM, I have 800 RAM in ther and it is working + !!it is working lower than the 667 maximum of the mobo???
This machine should be fast right?


In the BIOS I can change FSB and MEM completely manual or have one of tehm automatic / or bith automatic.
For the OC should I have them both on manual and start like this:
FSB 201 RAM 201
FSB 210 RAM 210
FSB 266 RAM 266

And then adjust the timings? they are on auto now.

Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks

 

[jcenters]

CPU:e2180(m0)
FSB and Multi: 9x333
Vcore:1.418 (1.39 after vdroop)
Mobo: Gigabyte P35-DS3L Rev 2.0
RAM: 2gbs of el cheapo HP RAM @ 666 (1:1), 1.8V (Two more gigs on a UPS truck as a write this)
Cooling: Cooler Master Hyper TX2 w/ Shin-Etsu G751

I can get at least 9.5 hours of Orthos stability. I've since bumped the voltage up a notch, but haven't had a chance to test yet. Max temp is 62c under 100% load, typically hovering in the upper 50s, and around 25c at idle (With Speedstep enabled).

No matter what I did, I couldn't get it stable past 3.0 ghz. In fact, I couldn't pass even five hours in Orthos at 10x300.

While short of my 10x333 goal, performance has been fantastic so far. Then again, I just upgraded from an Athlon XP 2900. lol

 

[Hulk]

In the process of building my HTPC and just fired it up. Set the Vcore to 1.35 and gave my E2460 a go at 266FSB. Solid so far at 2.4GHz.

I know that's not really a big deal but this is just the first step and it was pretty much a joke to bring it up to $200 cpu speed. I'm using the Intel cooler right now so I'm not going to put a big push on until I get a real cooler.

My motherboard is the Asus P5E-VM HDMI and so far it's great.



UPDATE:

8x333=2667 solid in Orthos but temps are getting to the high 40's.

9x333=3000 runs Windows fine but Orthos restarts the system after a few minutes. I'm still at Vcore 1.35 so I think a small bump in Vcore will make it solid but I'm not going to do that until I get a better cpu cooler.

 

[lopri]

Originally posted by: brencat

Originally posted by: lopri
Another 100%

CPU:e2160 (m0)
FSB and Multi: 9x400
Vcore:1.472
Mobo: EVGA 680i A1
RAM: 2x1GB Crucial Ballistix
Cooling: Scythe Andy Samurai

Nice one Lopri. These E2XXX chips and the 680i are a match made in heaven it seems.

Thank you. Right now I don't have any spare Intel chipset board to test this thing out but I myself am quite surprised by the co-op of E2xx0 and 680i. Hard to figure out how/where strap transition occurs with these 800FSB CPUs, though. (I'm guessing the 266 strap for the most part)

After much wasted time with Virtual PC, I gave up on quad-core CPUs. I just could't justfy the need for a quad for myself. (mostly heat, noise related) So I happened to pick up these E2140/E2160 for dirt cheap, and the results are fatastic. @3.60GHz, many synthetic benches are producing better numbers than with E6600 - but for actual usage, E6600 @3.60GHz is undoubtedly snappier.

 

[Team42]

Hi all, time for me to get on board here.

I built my present set up during the summer and have been tweaking it ever since.

CPU: e4300 L2
FSB & Multi: 333x9
Vcore: 1.424 (CPU-Z idle)
Mobo: Gigabyte GA-P35C-DS3R rev 1.1
RAM: 4Gb (4x 1Gb) Corsair PC6400
Cooling: Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro

Idle temp is 34/35C (Core Temp 0.95 and SpeedFan 4.34) going to 66C (peak) under load (Orthos blend test) and is stable after more than 10 hours.

I had it stable at 3.06 GHz (340 x 9) with BIOS F7 - I might try that again. Can't seem to get past a 340 FSB though. Still, can't complain too much - a 66% OC is pretty good in my view. However, I've only just managed to get it stable with lower voltages after removing and lapping the stock NB heatsink. That is one awful piece of tat! I think I might replace it with something a bit...er...less mickey mouse!

 

[XBoxLPU]

CPU: e4400 L2
FSB & Multi: 300 x 10
Vcore: 1.3562V Bios
Motherboard: Gigabyte GA-P35 DSL3 Rev 2.0
Memory: 4Gb of Supertalent PC6400 ( 2 x 2Gb) @ 900 Mhz 5-5-5-15
Cooling: ACF 7 Pro

Idle temp is in the low 40s and load temps at high 50s

I can do 2.8Ghz with stock voltages but not stable at 1.4V @ 3.2Ghz and I don't want to push too much voltage into the CPU