DOW up 3.3% year to date. When does the "winning" start?

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It’s gotten to the point now when Trump says or tweets anything the MSM always adds “without evidence”.
Well yeah. Because he lies constantly about everything. He makes statements of facts where there is no proof what he says is fact. Usually all proof is to the contrary.

God help the US in a time of crisis where trust in the man is important. Who would trust him to tell them why it’s time the country go to war?
 

Jhhnn

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It’s gotten to the point now when Trump says or tweets anything the MSM always adds “without evidence”.

Gawd. When Trump says something w/o evidence, the media points it out. It's their job to do do. Lately, that's been everything Trump says.
 

Bitek

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He seems like he's in desperation mode right now.
He knows he hasn't done shit as president, the midterms are not looking so solid for him, so he's throwing as many lies and Hail Marys as he needs to try and close the deal to save his ass.

His little criminal empire will not be able to withstand a democratic house with investigatory powers.
 

fskimospy

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He seems like he's in desperation mode right now.
He knows he hasn't done shit as president, the midterms are not looking so solid for him, so he's throwing as many lies and Hail Marys as he needs to try and close the deal to save his ass.

His little criminal empire will not be able to withstand a democratic house with investigatory powers.

I would hope people recognize at this point it’s just pathetic flailing. He’s going to fix prescription drug costs? A new actual middle class tax cut? He had two years to do these things and instead the only thing he got done was a massive tax cut for rich people.

It’s honestly insulting how stupid he thinks the average American must be.
 
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Engineer

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From the looks, the gains from yesterday will be wiped out at the open as the Dow looks to be down 400 points and even worse, the Nasdaq looks to be off 250 plus.

Might be a brutal day. It might be time for this ole boy to ditch the market as this is bringing 2008-2010 anxiety to me again, even with only a small drop compared to then.
 

Bitek

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I would hope people recognize at this point it’s just pathetic flailing. He’s going to fix prescription drug costs? A new actual middle class tax cut? He had two years to do these things and instead the only thing he got done was a massive tax cut for rich people.

It’s honestly insulting how stupid he thinks the average American must be.

It's absolutely unbelievable.

Absurd promises mixed with wild tales of hoards of migrants running the boarder (with some ISIS members and other gang members mixed in!)

I don't know what to say for anyone who can't see right though this stuff. .
 

Paul98

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we already hit below the lows of two days ago premarket.... Nasdaq futures way down
 

Bitek

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From the looks, the gains from yesterday will be wiped out at the open as the Dow looks to be down 400 points and even worse, the Nasdaq looks to be off 250 plus.

Might be a brutal day. It might be time for this ole boy to ditch the market as this is bringing 2008-2010 anxiety to me again, even with only a small drop compared to then.

I was hoping to see a decent dead cat bounce to move a bit to cash, but it's mostly just falling. I hate to sell and lock in lower prices, otoh it's ugly.

Should have followed my old advice to run the other way when conservatives start endzone dancing on the economy.
 

Meghan54

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It's absolutely unbelievable.

Absurd promises mixed with wild tales of hoards of migrants running the boarder (with some ISIS members and other gang members mixed in!)

I don't know what to say for anyone who can't see right though this stuff. .


The ones that don't "see right through this stuff" don't want to, plain and simple. It addresses problems over which they have no control and gives them something/someone to rail against...."those" are the ones causing the problems. Not who I vote for, not the policies I support....it's "those" people!
 

FIVR

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GDP numbers posted. 3.5% actual vs 3.4% projected but that projection was revised from 4%.


In addition, Q1 GDP was revised down to 2%. Wait a few months and the current numbers will be revised down again.


DOW is down 250 points. So much winning, I can't even handle it!
 

FIVR

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At this rate, we will be LUCKY if we get 2% growth and that's after Donald & the GOP spent $1.5 Trillion juicing the economy.
 

Engineer

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At this rate, we will be LUCKY if we get 2% growth and that's after Donald & the GOP spent $1.5 Trillion juicing the economy.

That's why we need this trickle-down double-down new 3.8 TRILLION tax cut that is in the house right now. Middle class MAGA!!!
 

K1052

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GDP numbers posted. 3.5% actual vs 3.4% projected but that projection was revised from 4%.


In addition, Q1 GDP was revised down to 2%. Wait a few months and the current numbers will be revised down again.


DOW is down 250 points. So much winning, I can't even handle it!


Exports declined, investments in fixed assets cratered, foreign investment down.

Indications much of the growth is artificially propped up by demand created by companies increasing inventories to get ahead of tariffs.

Kinda looking like the party will be over in 2019.
 

Engineer

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Yesterday's gains wiped out and still falling. G_ddamnit!

I knew I should have sold out several weeks ago.....fuck!

Stupid fucking cheeto and his economic views are fucking it all up.
 

Bitek

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Fuck. S&P500 officially into correction now. Down 2% today, over 10% since Slow's Trump gloat thread.

Also negative from when the tax cuts were signed. Compete clusterfuck.
 

fleshconsumed

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And it goes up more. Just jump on the Trump train and get out of loserville
LOL are we looking at the same chart, or are you talking about a small bump in the last 40 minutes while the daily change is still 2% down?

Looking at your post history all you do is troll. I guess troll away.
 

BAMAVOO

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LOL are we looking at the same chart, or are you talking about a small bump in the last 40 minutes while the daily change is still 2% down?

Looking at your post history all you do is troll. I guess troll away.
Trolling because i will not bow to Obama and Hillary... Suck on...
 

Jaskalas

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His little criminal empire will not be able to withstand a democratic house with investigatory powers.

I can't help but think that, in a healthy Democracy, it's the opposition that should hold investigatory powers to help keep the government both transparent and accountable to "the people". The party in power should never be their own watch dog.
 

hal2kilo

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He seems like he's in desperation mode right now.
He knows he hasn't done shit as president, the midterms are not looking so solid for him, so he's throwing as many lies and Hail Marys as he needs to try and close the deal to save his ass.

His little criminal empire will not be able to withstand a democratic house with investigatory powers.
Must not have a Russian November surprise in his back pocket. He's desperate.
 

FIVR

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Does anybody remember when the stock market would go up consistently 10-20% per year and not go down 4% a day for weeks at a time? It was before Donald Trump's tax cuts for the rich and his tariff trade war.


Those were the good old days, the Obama economy will be looked upon as the peak of US civilization one day.