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gopunk

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: Nebor
The anti-PETA response

If the girl was pierced by having an unsterilized serrated hook, hidden in her food, attached to a string that was constantly tugging, then I guess it's a fair argument.

I'm not PETA activist, I just love being devil's advocate.

Duh, how do you think people get piercings? With guns or something?

perhaps you missed the parts i've bolded for you
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: Nebor
The anti-PETA response

If the girl was pierced by having an unsterilized serrated hook, hidden in her food, attached to a string that was constantly tugging, then I guess it's a fair argument.

I'm not PETA activist, I just love being devil's advocate.

Duh, how do you think people get piercings? With guns or something?

perhaps you missed the parts i've bolded for you

You think that girl did that to her lip willingly? You cut a small hole in the bottom of a pizza box, insert the hook, and wait.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?

well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?
 

Nebor

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Originally posted by: gopunk
well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.

You know damn well PETA is saying that we shouldn't eat fish. That's why they said they were "swimming vegetables," implying that we should only eat vegetables.
 

Stojakapimp

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?

well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.

But I just don't see how that can ever be resolved. Either you catch them with a hook or you net them and let them suffocate. The only other alternative I can think of is shooting them with a tranquilizer then reeling them in...but that seems a little excessive
 

TuxDave

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Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Nebor
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Originally posted by: Nebor
The anti-PETA response

If the girl was pierced by having an unsterilized serrated hook, hidden in her food, attached to a string that was constantly tugging, then I guess it's a fair argument.

I'm not PETA activist, I just love being devil's advocate.

Duh, how do you think people get piercings? With guns or something?

perhaps you missed the parts i've bolded for you

You think that girl did that to her lip willingly? You cut a small hole in the bottom of a pizza box, insert the hook, and wait.

:confused: My sarcasm meter is broken, can someone check it for me?
 

Leetman

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?

well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.

I'm pretty sure that is the reasoning behind such a billboard. No where on it does it say anything about gutting children, not catching/eating fish period, etc.

I do not agree with many of the extremist things PETA says, but in this case I believe they have a valid point.
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

Actually you would be surprised how many people fish and hunt to lessen the impact of grocery bills.

I do.
 

gopunk

Lifer
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Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.
 

AsianriceX

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?

well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.

Taken from their own website

PETA believes that animals deserve the most basic rights?consideration of their own best interests regardless of whether they are useful to humans. Like you, they are capable of suffering and have interests in leading their own lives; therefore, they are not ours to use?for food, clothing, entertainment, or experimentation, or for any other reason.

Peta believes that fish shouldn't be killed at all. As for that, I'm having fish for dinner tonight! :D
 

b0mbrman

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I don't agree with them but I wouldn't have a problem with them throwing billboards up...That's their freedom of whatever...
 

fredtam

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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?

well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.


Well then you should not defend them unless you investigate their motives. PETA wants everyone to be vegetarian.
 

gopunk

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

Actually you would be surprised how many people fish and hunt to lessen the impact of grocery bills.

I do.

i can't imagine that the time you would have to spend fishing and hunting, not to mention on equipment, would somehow be less costly than buying cans of tuna

but that's ok, i realize you might want fish other than tuna... you may need to do it survive, and i'm sure there are some other people like you, but you're far and few between the entire population
 

Leetman

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Originally posted by: booger711
once again peta is just full of sh1t

Your second intelligent response of the thread. It must have taken many years of schooling for you to be able to come up with such witty retorts.
 

Stojakapimp

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Jun 28, 2002
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Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
Originally posted by: gopunk
Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.

Well I myself personally am not the most fond of fishing. In fact, I hate hurting any living creature..it's just hard for me to realize that I ended something's life. But I still think PETA is pretty radical. I mean, they don't want anybody to fish? Fishing is perhaps one of the oldest food professions around. While I'm not a big fisherman, there are millions of people that fish out there and if I were one of them, I would be a little pissed off
 

Gurck

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Originally posted by: fredtam
Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

It's well-documented that we get certain nutrients from meat that must be supplemented by vitamins by veggies & vegans. Even so, there may be other nutrients we're not aware of, or ways in which those from animals work which we're not aware of. We aren't meant to be vegetarians, but rather omnivores, and doing anything but can be hazardous to our health & survival.