Don't Mess With Texas PETA.

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

Actually you would be surprised how many people fish and hunt to lessen the impact of grocery bills.

I do.

i can't imagine that the time you would have to spend fishing and hunting, not to mention on equipment, would somehow be less costly than buying cans of tuna

but that's ok, i realize you might want fish other than tuna... you may need to do it survive, and i'm sure there are some other people like you, but you're far and few between the entire population

Do you have any idea how much meat one deer or some of the larger fish yields.

 

[Leetman]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

It's well-documented that we get certain nutrients from meat that must be supplemented by vitamins by veggies & vegans. Even so, there may be other nutrients we're not aware of, or ways in which those from animals work which we're not aware of. We aren't meant to be vegetarians, but rather omnivores, and doing anything but can be hazardous to our health & survival.

I've been vegan for quite some time and I'm in excellent health, more than I can say for most McDonalds eating Americans.

I supplement with vitamans, it's not exactly hard.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.

Now you're starting to get it. I'm not saying PETA is wrong. I just don't believe in their way of thinking. I place myself, my needs, and wants, above everything else. I drive cars with leather seats because it makes me feel like a big man. Something died so I could sit down, that's how important I am. Same w/ eating animals. I'm feeling a bit peckish, something should die to make me happy.

PETA can kiss my animal killing, hedonistic ass.

 

[Leetman]

I place myself, my needs, and wants, above everything else. I drive cars with leather seats because it makes me feel like a big man.

You have bigger problems than eating meat.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: AsianriceX

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

Then I'm missing the point. Is Peta saying that it's only ok for commercial fisherman to fish our waters while people trying to catch dinner for the evening can't do so?

well i can't speak for PETA, but i would guess that PETA is advocating that if fish are to be killed, it ought to be done ethically and in a manner as to cause as little suffering as possible to the fish.

Taken from their own website

PETA believes that animals deserve the most basic rights?consideration of their own best interests regardless of whether they are useful to humans. Like you, they are capable of suffering and have interests in leading their own lives; therefore, they are not ours to use?for food, clothing, entertainment, or experimentation, or for any other reason.

Peta believes that fish shouldn't be killed at all. As for that, I'm having fish for dinner tonight!

that's great, but you and i both know that the ad was not targeted towards commercial fishermen. they take a "lesser of two evils" approach. yea, they'd rather no fish be killed at all. but at the same time, the realize that they'll reduce suffering of fish more if they take a more reasonable approach of "how about we don't subject animals to unnecessary amounts of pain and cruelty before we eat them" than if they said "lets not eat any animals". so in short, you are right, but your post has nothing to do with mine.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: Leetman

I place myself, my needs, and wants, above everything else. I drive cars with leather seats because it makes me feel like a big man.

You have bigger problems than eating meat.

I'm just a masculine, self-important American.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.

Well I myself personally am not the most fond of fishing. In fact, I hate hurting any living creature..it's just hard for me to realize that I ended something's life. But I still think PETA is pretty radical. I mean, they don't want anybody to fish? Fishing is perhaps one of the oldest food professions around. While I'm not a big fisherman, there are millions of people that fish out there and if I were one of them, I would be a little pissed off

well i don't think the ad was meant to be a criticism of commercial fishermen... but for people that do it with a line and hook, since most of those people are primarily doing it for fun and their own enjoyment

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

Actually you would be surprised how many people fish and hunt to lessen the impact of grocery bills.

I do.

i can't imagine that the time you would have to spend fishing and hunting, not to mention on equipment, would somehow be less costly than buying cans of tuna

but that's ok, i realize you might want fish other than tuna... you may need to do it survive, and i'm sure there are some other people like you, but you're far and few between the entire population

Do you have any idea how much meat one deer or some of the larger fish yields.

can you honestly say that if there was no sport in hunting or fishing, yet it took the same amount of resources to engage in, you would still do it? and can you honestly say that you could the same of the majority of the people that fish and hunt? if not, then its not really relevant.

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: Nebor

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.

Now you're starting to get it. I'm not saying PETA is wrong. I just don't believe in their way of thinking. I place myself, my needs, and wants, above everything else. I drive cars with leather seats because it makes me feel like a big man. Something died so I could sit down, that's how important I am. Same w/ eating animals. I'm feeling a bit peckish, something should die to make me happy.

PETA can kiss my animal killing, hedonistic ass.

:cookie;

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.

Well I myself personally am not the most fond of fishing. In fact, I hate hurting any living creature..it's just hard for me to realize that I ended something's life. But I still think PETA is pretty radical. I mean, they don't want anybody to fish? Fishing is perhaps one of the oldest food professions around. While I'm not a big fisherman, there are millions of people that fish out there and if I were one of them, I would be a little pissed off

well i don't think the ad was meant to be a criticism of commercial fishermen... but for people that do it with a line and hook, since most of those people are primarily doing it for fun and their own enjoyment

Linked from peta site.

 

[Phoenix86]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

peta is against that too.

proof?

PETA, have you ever heard of them? They don't want anybody to use any animal product at all... See AsianriceX's post above.
"they (animals) are not ours to use?for food, clothing, entertainment, or experimentation, or for any other reason."

hahaha, from the article:
""Fish feel pain and suffering, and it's been well documented," said spokesman William Rivas-Rivas. " Well, if they feel pain from the hook how's he gonna feel when I gut 'em, skin 'em, whack his head off, filet and de-bone him!

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: gopunk
:cookie;

I'd prefer :chunk of tasty animal;

 

[fredtam]

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

Actually you would be surprised how many people fish and hunt to lessen the impact of grocery bills.

I do.

i can't imagine that the time you would have to spend fishing and hunting, not to mention on equipment, would somehow be less costly than buying cans of tuna

but that's ok, i realize you might want fish other than tuna... you may need to do it survive, and i'm sure there are some other people like you, but you're far and few between the entire population

Do you have any idea how much meat one deer or some of the larger fish yields.

can you honestly say that if there was no sport in hunting or fishing, yet it took the same amount of resources to engage in, you would still do it? and can you honestly say that you could the same of the majority of the people that fish and hunt? if not, then its not really relevant.

Do you mean if I didn't like doing it? I hate going to work everyday but I do to feed my family.

Are you saying that the majority of people don't eat what they catch/ kill?

 

[gopunk]

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: fredtam

Originally posted by: Gurck
By PETA logic wouldn't all predators fall under the same umbrella?

No because they do it to survive. We do not have too. :roll:

nobody seeing that billboard needs to fish line and hook in order to survive, and i doubt many people in the developed world need to either.

So now we're stuck with having to buy only what's in the store? what if I enjoy going out in the ocean and catching a 100 pound halibut, taking it back home and living off of that for a week?

well that was the purpose of the ad... to make people realize that they are hurting a living, breathing creature. now some people obviously don't care and will continue to fish because they value the happiness from fishing their own fish more than not harming innocent creatures, but PETA is clearly hoping that at least a few people will think maybe it is not worth it.

Well I myself personally am not the most fond of fishing. In fact, I hate hurting any living creature..it's just hard for me to realize that I ended something's life. But I still think PETA is pretty radical. I mean, they don't want anybody to fish? Fishing is perhaps one of the oldest food professions around. While I'm not a big fisherman, there are millions of people that fish out there and if I were one of them, I would be a little pissed off

well i don't think the ad was meant to be a criticism of commercial fishermen... but for people that do it with a line and hook, since most of those people are primarily doing it for fun and their own enjoyment

Linked from peta site.

i get what you're saying... peta is against eating animals... ok, but i don't think the ad in question, as described, was meant to refer to commercial fishing.

 

[gopunk]

Do you mean if I didn't like doing it? I hate going to work everyday but I do to feed my family.

Are you saying that the majority of people don't eat what they catch/ kill?

no i'm saying that the majority of people that hunt and fish are not doing so solely for economic reasons, and if economic factors were the only ones involved, would probably just go to the supermarket.

 

[Leetman]

Remember that this is about that one ad people, not about PETA.

For sake of argument it would probably be best to not even take into consideration that it was indeed posted by PETA.

 

[cherrytwist]

I want to eat swimming vegetables. That would rock.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Leetman

Originally posted by: halik
peta.... :roll:

Ignorance.... :roll:

Arrogant radicals that foolishly think they can force their fairy tale into reality... :roll:

Originally posted by: gopunk

Originally posted by: Stojakapimp
how else are you supposed to catch fish? net them?

you could... they also have fish in supermarkets now

:roll:

Originally posted by: Gurck
It's well-documented that we get certain nutrients from meat that must be supplemented by vitamins by veggies & vegans. Even so, there may be other nutrients we're not aware of, or ways in which those from animals work which we're not aware of. We aren't meant to be vegetarians, but rather omnivores, and doing anything but can be hazardous to our health & survival.

I'm not your biggest fan, Gurck, but I have to admit this is the best post in the thread. I don't eat at McD's, I'm not going to take vitamins to supplement an unhealthy diet (whether vegan or McD's, as I consider both unhealthy), and I AM going to eat properly in order to stay healthy and that means getting a moderate amount of various meats, PETA be fscking damned to hell.

Oh, and I enjoy fishing, and (when allowed) eat every fish I catch.

 

[AsianriceX]

Originally posted by: gopunk

i get what you're saying... peta is against eating animals... ok, but i don't think the ad in question, as described, was meant to refer to commercial fishing.

While the ad in question was placed in a town that attracts individual fisherman, I wouldn't be surprised if they placed the same ad in fishing towns where commercial fishing is big. The article states that PETA will be putting up more of the billboard in several other cities in the US, and from their own nofishing.com website

PETA's campaign targets both recreational and commercial fishing to stop the unnecessary torture of these animals by pointing out the cruelty of fishing and the health risks associated with eating fish.

Edit: Trimmed out nested quotes

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Leetman
Remember that this is about that one ad people, not about PETA.

For sake of argument it would probably be best to not even take into consideration that it was indeed posted by PETA.

But the ad was posted by the super-radical organization known as PETA, which has proclaimed its goal as making ALL animals vegetarians, not just humans. Why are you back-peddling?

 

[chrisms]

I went hunting yesterday and killed 6 squirrels needlessly, 3 birds for the meat, and a rabbit who ended up being useless.

 

[midwestfisherman]

Originally posted by: Leetman

Originally posted by: halik
peta.... :roll:

Ignorance.... :roll:

Leetman.... :roll:

It's a fish...get over it!!!

 

[midwestfisherman]

Originally posted by: Leetman

Originally posted by: booger711
once again peta is just full of sh1t

Your second intelligent response of the thread. It must have taken many years of schooling for you to be able to come up with such witty retorts.

Oooooo....attacking the person...now there is a witty and effective rebuttal!. LMAO!!

 

[TuxDave]

Originally posted by: midwestfisherman

Originally posted by: Leetman

Originally posted by: booger711
once again peta is just full of sh1t

Your second intelligent response of the thread. It must have taken many years of schooling for you to be able to come up with such witty retorts.

Oooooo....attacking the person...now there is a witty and effective rebuttal!. LMAO!!

Why would he need a witty rebuttal to an unwitty statement?

 

[Squisher]

Amoebas have feelings too.