Donald Trump: dumbest billionaire ever?

[K1052]

Last generation had Howard Hughes. We get Trump. Granted we get screwed but then again many things were better back then.

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. Trump compares to Hughes?

Hughes was more like a cross between Branson and Jobs.

 

[Thump553]

Not defending Trump one bit but it would be pretty difficult to hire and pay these people if they weren't able to get here. This type of thing isn't the source of the problem.

You don't mop up the water and then fix the leaking pipe.

Or, more appropriately, dry up the demand and they will stop flooding over the border. If we HAD and ENFORCED real penalties against employers for hiring illegals then most would not come here. They come for jobs and income.

This whole nonsense of spending billions and billions to try to get an impassable wall on the border is the modern day equivalent of the war on drugs, Just Say No style. Lucky us, we have both going on at the same time plus endless wars.

 

[xBiffx]

I think I just threw up in my mouth a little. Trump compares to Hughes?

Hughes was more like a cross between Branson and Jobs.

Depends on who you asked. Hughes had plenty of haters.

 

[xBiffx]

Or, more appropriately, dry up the demand and they will stop flooding over the border. If we HAD and ENFORCED real penalties against employers for hiring illegals then most would not come here. They come for jobs and income.

This whole nonsense of spending billions and billions to try to get an impassable wall on the border is the modern day equivalent of the war on drugs, Just Say No style. Lucky us, we have both going on at the same time plus endless wars.

So instead of spending billions on one thing, we should invest billions (maybe trillions) on many millions of things. And that is still addressing a symptom not the underlying cause of the problem. Makes perfect sense. 🙄

If they can't get here in the first place we don't need to worry about the rest. Problem solved as well as any future problems.

 

[feralkid]

“The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people."

This comment has become "I hate Mexicans". This is not what he said, however. But, again, it's easier for people to be outraged than to look at the truth. And while Trump wasn't the most eloquent in his wording, there is some truth to it.

- Mexico does nothing to assist with the illegal boarder crossing, in fact they have spoken out against any increase US presence on the boarder and any deporting. They have a vested interest in letting hundreds of thousands cross the boarder.

- The vast majority of illegals are poor and poorly educated, and MANY of them do carry a criminal background.

- Does anyone have an issue with the drug portion of this comment? If so, you're delirious.

Perhaps someone would take you seriously if you'd fucking learn to spell "border".

 

[Thump553]

So instead of spending billions on one thing, we should invest billions (maybe trillions) on many millions of things. And that is still addressing a symptom not the underlying cause of the problem. Makes perfect sense. 🙄

If they can't get here in the first place we don't need to worry about the rest. Problem solved as well as any future problems.

So how did your logic work on the war on drugs? Why do you expect/hope/dream it work on this problem. I'm saying we have to cut the demand in addition to having SENSIBLE border policies. Right now employers have very little risk or downside to hiring illegals. Strengthen the laws and actually enforce them. Upside would be less illegal immigration and more Americans actually hired. Downside-cost of production will likely rise.

I have a quiz for you-which political party gives lip service, at most, to tightening employment law (my god, it would be anti-business!) but treats militarizing our border as a near religious obsession?

 

[Charmonium]

Somewhat off topic but Trump has one of the stingiest 401k programs. It only rates a 30 score on a scale of 0-100 based on Bloomberg.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article26633365.html

Donald Trump has built billions of dollars in personal wealth. His employees aren't getting much of it.
The Republican presidential candidate operates an unusually stingy 401(k) plan for his workers, according to government filings.
If you can jump through hoops and endure years of working for Trump, his matching contributions are more generous than average. If you contribute 6 percent of your salary, Trump will kick in 4.5 percent.
But here's the catch. You can't even join the plan until you spend a year as a Trump employee. Call it an apprenticeship.
Then, if you want that matching contribution, you have to wait until the end of acalendar year. Leaveor get firedin October, and you get nothing.
Even if you stay, Trump's contribution doesn't completely belong to you for six years. That vesting schedule is the slowest allowed under U.S. law.

 

[Indus]

Game. Set. And Match.

Read at http://www.washingtonpost.com/local...785116-20ec-11e5-84d5-eb37ee8eaa61_story.html

 

[compuwiz1]

He told the truth. I live in a sanctuary city. In the 80's and 90's there were green border patrol cars all over here. I like tacos and frequent these food trucks around here. Back then, when one of those cars would pull in the parking lot, people would scramble like ants. When you read our local news most of the arrests are people who are here illegally. Drugs, Rape, Robbery, Murder and sex with minors. I love immigrants and I am the patriarch of a family who all look different than me. Wife, kids, Grand kids all look Asian, actually Filipino. Illegal immigration has gotten way out of control. Nobody should be called a racist for bringing the truth into the spot light. Secure the border. Make America great again!

 

[xBiffx]

So how did your logic work on the war on drugs? Why do you expect/hope/dream it work on this problem. I'm saying we have to cut the demand in addition to having SENSIBLE border policies. Right now employers have very little risk or downside to hiring illegals. Strengthen the laws and actually enforce them. Upside would be less illegal immigration and more Americans actually hired. Downside-cost of production will likely rise.

I have a quiz for you-which political party gives lip service, at most, to tightening employment law (my god, it would be anti-business!) but treats militarizing our border as a near religious obsession?

I was never for the war on drugs. But since you brought it up, we wouldn't have to worry about a flow of drugs through our southern border if there was no way to literally hike past it.

Our nations border is little more than a border between two of its states. It almost literally is an imaginary line at this point. Other nations, especially those needing to secure a border with another nation have done so quite effectively. Why can't we?

Again, why do we need to spend billions and billions on enforcement after the fact. That's like trying to herd cats. Why not spend a billion now and not let the cats out of the bag to begin with? Illegal immigrants already risk a great deal by breaking our laws and being here. Do you honestly think that will change if we all of a sudden say "we mean it this time"?

 

[sm625]

Illegal Alien Pedophiles: 4,317 Charges Filed Against Illegals in ONE YEAR… in ONE STATE (and it’s only our 10th largest)

If this happened to my kid I would be holding every single one of you dirty illegal immigrant loving libtard ratfuks personally responsible for it. Trump is 100% right for taking on this issue, even though he clearly does not go far enough. It is getting high time to throw down the gloves on these goddam rats. Screw all of you weak pathetic chicken livered cowards for allowing things to regress to such a degree.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

illegal alien pedophiles: 4,317 charges filed against illegals in one year… in one state (and it’s only our 10th largest)

if this happened to my kid i would be holding every single one of you dirty illegal immigrant loving libtard ratfuks personally responsible for it. Trump is 100% right for taking on this issue, even though he clearly does not go far enough. It is getting high time to throw down the gloves on these goddam rats. Screw all of you weak pathetic chicken livered cowards for allowing things to regress to such a degree.

you go girl!!!!!!

 

[K1052]

Illegal Alien Pedophiles: 4,317 Charges Filed Against Illegals in ONE YEAR… in ONE STATE (and it’s only our 10th largest)

If this happened to my kid I would be holding every single one of you dirty illegal immigrant loving libtard ratfuks personally responsible for it. Trump is 100% right for taking on this issue, even though he clearly does not go far enough. It is getting high time to throw down the gloves on these goddam rats. Screw all of you weak pathetic chicken livered cowards for allowing things to regress to such a degree.

 

[trenchfoot]

Illegal Alien Pedophiles: 4,317 Charges Filed Against Illegals in ONE YEAR… in ONE STATE (and it’s only our 10th largest)

If this happened to my kid I would be holding every single one of you dirty illegal immigrant loving libtard ratfuks personally responsible for it. Trump is 100% right for taking on this issue, even though he clearly does not go far enough. It is getting high time to throw down the gloves on these goddam rats. Screw all of you weak pathetic chicken livered cowards for allowing things to regress to such a degree.

Allow me to address your ire by saying that your distress is directed at the wrong people. No matter who we elect to represent us in government, there are those very powerful and influential monied interests who profit from exploiting illlegal immigrant labor, along with a voting demographic who promote open borders to satisfy their own agenda that are keeping our politicians from effectively preventing the hiring of illegals and/or the securing of our borders.

The key is enacting laws and funding the enforcement of those laws that explain in plain language what are now laws that are purposely vague and encumbered with dubious language that allows businesses who profit from exploiting illegal laborers to blame the government for their inability or unwillingness to enforce those laws that prevent the hiring of illegal immigrants.

The important aspect of the aforementioned clusterfuck is that it is those very businesses that are complaining about the difficulties with complying with the law that are the ones who want the law to remain exactly the way it is so they can continue to hire illegals without fear of being prosecuted.

Therefore, these very powerful and influential businesses are, with great success, leaning hard on our legislators to keep the laws preventing the hiring of illegals as vague and as ineffective as these businesses want them to be.

We, as the voting public, do not have the power to mitigate those circumstances because those legislators that we elect are being held hostage by those that can and will make things very difficult for them to effectively represent the interests of their constituents.

 

[trenchfoot]

On topic though, I've just been watching an interview of Trump on MSNBC. I've confirmed what I've been saying about Trump being the quintessential PLAYA of PLAYA's of all time, the epitome of the polished used car salesman because while I was watching him do that thing he do so well, I said to myself that even I would vote for him at that very moment. lol

 

[bshole]

Somewhat off topic but Trump has one of the stingiest 401k programs. It only rates a 30 score on a scale of 0-100 based on Bloomberg.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article26633365.html

Damn, my company only offers 2% matching! 4.5% matching seems fantastic from where I am sitting.

 

[Fanatical Meat]

Damn, my company only offers 2% matching! 4.5% matching seems fantastic from where I am sitting.

Somewhat off topic but Trump has one of the stingiest 401k programs. It only rates a 30 score on a scale of 0-100 based on Bloomberg.

http://www.miamiherald.com/news/business/article26633365.html

I thought the same thing, 4.5% is pretty generous these days. Yes a long, long time ago 10% was possible but that was in the late 80's. I understand the point that to get to the 4.5% you need to contribute 6% however that is not unreasonable.

 

[shira]

It's looking more and more like - yes indeed - Trump is the most moronic billionaire ever. Any doubts about whether he might have had some super-genius ulterior motive for his attention-whoring foray into demagoguery and downright lying seem to be evaporating with every news report of yet another business loss he's suffered as a consequence. The latest.

Jose Andres, the D.C.-based super-chef with a growing national brand, is backing out of a deal to open the flagship restaurant in Donald Trump’s forthcoming Washington hotel – the latest on a growing list of high-profile partners to sever ties with the presidential candidate over his anti-immigrant comments.

 

[trenchfoot]

IMO, Trump's not worried at all over the loss of business opportunities due to his outspoken rants.

There's a pile of very rich business folks and folks from the working class of the conservative persuasion that sympathize with his sentiments and will be happy to take up the slack that his........bluntly caustic commentary is causing him.

 

[ivwshane]

Trump is the new Sarah palin and should be treated as such, ignored completely.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

 

[nickqt]

Trump is the new Sarah palin and should be treated as such, ignored completely.

If only.

 

[sportage]

MSNBC Chris Hayes show tonight 7/8 had a great extended interview with Trump.
You can still catch the rerun later tonight.
Knowledge is power and we have to know what we are up against...

Trump is an interesting guy, you have to give him that.
He talks so fast he sounds like an insurance salesman trying to sell you a bad policy.
Trying to close the deal and get your signature on the dotted line before you have time to read the fine print.
Trump smooths over and dismisses his flaws when should that be exposed, then has this way of claiming THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH ME, as if that is all the proof you need to hear.

When asked about the various companies dropping all ties with the Trump organization, Trump claims they later called him, and apologized for cutting ties with Trump was their big mistake.
Trump's proof? None! You have to take him for his word. As usual....

Trump claims to be perfect in everything he says and does, with no exception.
If NBC dropped his show, it was Trump's idea, not NBC.

When asked about his birther attacks on Obama and Trump's failed efforts proving Obama as a non citizen, Trump deflects away from that with saying WHY REHASH OLD NEWS. THAT IS OLD NEWS.
Then.... once again, Trump does this thing where he claims "BUT... THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT AGREE WITH ME."
Donald provides no proof.
He pulls this stuff out of his ass and offers nothing as proof, other than his word as all the proof needed.
Just tosses crap out there as some kind of fact, dare not to be questioned, then simply changes the subject.

I can not imagine this kind of insanity running the country.
And if those that like/LOVE Donald Trump actually lived to see Trump elected president, it would be a short lived honeymoon before those very same Trump fans gravely regretted what they had done.

If as president the citizenry dare began to question Thump or his method of governing, dare question his judgment, in a heart beat Trump would turn against the citizenry itself.
And I can not imagine the outcome if ever an entire US citizenry should rise up against or dare question its dictatorius president, Donald Trump?
Dare question his leadership as president?
Or, as with Richard Nixon, dare attempt to impeach a president Donald Trump?
That outcome would be fatally disastrous for every US citizen man, woman, and child.
Not for Donald per se, but for everyone else.

I realistically could see president Donald Trump calling on the US military and national guard to wage war against all the citizenry of the United States if the people rose up against president Trump, or the congress should ever attempt to impeach president Donald Trump.
President Trump and his massive incredible larger than life ego would easily justify such military actions against the American citizenry.

Trump would never be happy as president and having to answer to the people or to congress.
President Trump would find it completely necessary to transition into full on dictator.
And nothing less would do for President and dictator Donald Trump.

There are people that love Donald Trump and would easily vote for him.
And those are the very same Donald Trump fans that soon after would grievously regret having ever voted for Donald Trump, or having heard of the name Donald Trump.

 

[DrDoug]

The damage Trump is doing to what little Hispanic support the Republicans have left is a train wreck that the Republican party can't stop but sure as hell wish they could. Trump will never file the necessary financial disclosure statements necessary to be a candidate for President. Never, which makes the mayhem and damage he is doing to the Republicans all the more hilarious. He's rising in the polls among conservative voters which is easily translated into 'conservative voters hate Hispanics'. His presence at the debates will be akin to a fully armed nuke rolling around on the deck of a storm-tossed ship; will he go off or will he STFU? Only Trump knows for sure...lol! In the end he won't run, leaving everyone else to deal with the mess he has made.

The RNC via ReiNCe PRieBUS has asked Trump to stop being bad and instead be a good boy but I'm betting that Trump is going to continue to put the rump in Trump.

 

[disappoint]

If there isn't an ulterior motive, then he's a huge dumb ass. First for thinking he actually has a chance and, second, for saying retarded things that completely destroys his ratings with important demographics. A presidential run is about making yourself as likable as possible to as many people as possible. In a single sentence, he eliminated an entire race and all liberal moderates. Then he digs in...

Of course there is an ulterior motive. Do you really think he actually wants to be the next president? With all of it's heavy responsibility and tiny cash flow?

The guy is a skirt chasing cash addict not a power tripping public servant nor commander in chief material politician.

What he wants to do is use the bully pulpit to change the public's views from politically correct to "hate this group in particular because I said so and I'm right" without actually having to go through all the work the actual commander in chief would have to in order to attain public office and hold it.

As long as he has your ear he'll babble whatever he wants into it without a care in the world how many will disagree with it's content or delivery.