DOJ Settles In Landmark Gun Suit, Safeguarding the 2nd Amendment!

[cytg111]

Leftists and their pussyass states are freaking the fuck out trying to sue to get Cody's files off the internet! I love it!
https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy...un-company-sue-to-get-files-off-the-internet/



Goddam, the whining is so rich from these pussyass blue states. I love it, and there's absolutely NOTHING THEY CAN DO ABOUT IT! MAGA!

BTW did everyone get their files yet?

Dude, you are frothing at the mouth. Never go full.. frothing at the mouth, everybody knows that!

 

[SP33Demon]

Dude, you are frothing at the mouth. Never go full.. frothing at the mouth, everybody knows that!

hahahaha upset much about Cody's files? Gun control is dead, brah

 

[cytg111]

hahahaha upset much about Cody's files? Gun control is dead, brah

naw.. If had your gunlaws I would have a much larger and longer back yard...

 

[HomerJS]

Maybe some of you Trump excuse boys can explain this. I believe his administration cleared the way for it.. BTW - the case was settled by the DOJ not lost. Obama's DOJ would have continued it.

President Donald Trump said Tuesday he's "looking into" easy access to blueprints for 3D-printable guns, saying in a tweet that "doesn't seem to make much sense."

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/31/3-d-printable-guns-donald-trump/870557002/

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Maybe some of you Trump excuse boys can explain this. I believe his administration cleared the way for it.. BTW - the case was settled by the DOJ not lost. Obama's DOJ would have continued it.



https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2018/07/31/3-d-printable-guns-donald-trump/870557002/

Even the guy who released the files expected to lose until Trump's admin changed course, settled, and paid him for his trouble.

This morning he's tweeting how letting this happen doesn't seem like a good idea. Stable genius indeed.

 

[SP33Demon]

Even the guy who released the files expected to lose until Trump's admin changed course, settled, and paid him for his trouble.

This morning he's tweeting how letting this happen doesn't seem like a good idea. Stable genius indeed.

Trump said he is looking into any 3D printed guns that are illegally being sold. Which is a lot different from being able to print them. He has no problem with the DoJ's ruling in favor of Cody.

 

[sactoking]

And now there's an injunction.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Trump said he is looking into any 3D printed guns that are illegally being sold. Which is a lot different from being able to print them. He has no problem with the DoJ's ruling in favor of Cody.

That’s not at all what he said. Here’s his exact words, no spin. 1) he says nothing about illegal sales. 2) why the fuck would have have to talk to the NRA about illegal gun sales? 3) if he’s talking about illegal sales why would it ever make sense?

Let me guess. You are following his don’t believe what you see and what you hear mantra right?

 

[brycejones]

Lol at speedy's idol folding like a cheap suit.

 

[Paratus]

That’s not at all what he said. Here’s his exact words, no spin. 1) he says nothing about illegal sales. 2) why the fuck would have have to talk to the NRA about illegal gun sales? 3) if he’s talking about illegal sales why would it ever make sense?

Let me guess. You are following his don’t believe what you see and what you hear mantra right?

Lol at speedy's idol folding like a cheap suit.

What no he’s not! he’s not! Look he’s talking about illegal 3D gun sales. It’s right there in the tweet! Ask speedy! He sees it! 😀

 

[SP33Demon]

That’s not at all what he said. Here’s his exact words, no spin. 1) he says nothing about illegal sales. 2) why the fuck would have have to talk to the NRA about illegal gun sales? 3) if he’s talking about illegal sales why would it ever make sense?

Let me guess. You are following his don’t believe what you see and what you hear mantra right?

1) he says nothing about illegal sales.

If it isn't about illegal distribution, then it doesn't make sense because you'd need a metal barrel to have any gun worth a shit getting printed. If he's just talking about 100% plastic guns, then that's already covered by the Undetectable Firearms Act which states that 3oz of metal need to be in all guns, period. 100% plastic guns would be illegal for sale anywhere in the country.

2) why the fuck would have have to talk to the NRA about illegal gun sales?

Because it could be lobbyists trying to push for 3D plastic printed guns to be sold to the masses via legislation reform. Which would of course would never fly unless "plastics" got hardier.

3) if he’s talking about illegal sales why would it ever make sense?

Because he states "looking into" guns being sold to the public, which could either connote present tense OR future tense. I.e. He's looking into guns being sold right now to the public (illegal) which the NRA may have some info on. Or future tense, i.e. he's looking into plastic guns to be sold in the future such as one-shot zipguns and wanted to see what the NRA thought. Which really doesn't make much sense because disposable one shot guns wouldn't be that far off the cost of the cheapest 1911 and don't offer much utility. I don't even know who the hell would want to buy a 1-shot plastic gun.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

If it isn't about illegal distribution, then it doesn't make sense because you'd need a metal barrel to have any gun worth a shit getting printed. If he's just talking about 100% plastic guns, then that's already covered by the Undetectable Firearms Act which states that 3oz of metal need to be in all guns, period. 100% plastic guns would be illegal for sale anywhere in the country.

3D printed guns contain a metal block that can be removed but still allow them to function. They meet requirements until that’s removed. A bill was put forward to amend the act to require a major component be made of metal. We can guess where that went.

This is about people being able to get these guns into areas they should never be and it being undetectable. The Undetectable Act, as it is now, is easily skirted by having a simple component non essential to operation being included in the design.

Because it could be lobbyists trying to push for 3D plastic printed guns to be sold to the masses via legislation reform. Which would of course would never fly unless "plastics" got hardier.

Again nothing to do with illegal gun sales and not what he said at all in that tweet.

Because he states "looking into" guns being sold to the public, which could either connote present tense OR future tense. I.e. He's looking into guns being sold right now to the public (illegal) which the NRA may have some info on. Or future tense, i.e. he's looking into plastic guns to be sold in the future such as one-shot zipguns and wanted to see what the NRA thought. Which really doesn't make much sense because disposable one shot guns wouldn't be that far off the cost of the cheapest 1911 and don't offer much utility. I don't even know who the hell would want to buy a 1-shot plastic gun.

This is just desperate nonsense to twist what he said to mean what you want it to mean.

Printed guns made from ABS have withstoood 8 rounds fired and up. There have been multiple tests done based on the blueprints in questions with different materials and ABS held up for quite a few rounds. That’s the concern. And again it’s not just about buying them. It’s about people making them with no other person in the world knowing they have for nefarious purposes.

 

[Thump553]

The Trump Administration has come up with a lot of policies I oppose. But this one jumps to a whole new level of stupidity and boneheadness. I cannot see how any rational person could conclude that opening a Pandora's box to permit anyone in the world to create unlicensed, unregulated weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing other humans, and most importantly such weapons that cannot be detected by screening systems improves the safety of the public.

All I can think of is Trump thrives on chaos and turmoil, plus the fact the sheer stupidity of the idea is what appealed to him.

 

[SP33Demon]

3D printed guns contain a metal block that can be removed but still allow them to function. They meet requirements until that’s removed. A bill was put forward to amend the act to require a major component be made of metal. We can guess where that went.

This is about people being able to get these guns into areas they should never be and it being undetectable. The Undetectable Act, as it is now, is easily skirted by having a simple component non essential to operation being included in the design.



Again nothing to do with illegal gun sales and not what he said at all in that tweet.



This is just desperate nonsense to twist what he said to mean what you want it to mean.

Printed guns made from ABS have withstoood 8 rounds fired and up. There have been multiple tests done based on the blueprints in questions with different materials and ABS held up for quite a few rounds. That’s the concern. And again it’s not just about buying them. It’s about people making them with no other person in the world knowing they have for nefarious purposes.

Wow, 8 shots. No way! The world is falling now. Also he mentioned sales, so where is he getting that from? Who is proposing to sell plastic 8 shot guns that cost $500 and why should we even care? Aside from your claim that the metal block is easily removed. Even if that's true, there's no way to regulate it aside from banning plastic from being printed and good luck with that. You can't put DRM software in these printers, we saw what happened with mp3s. So what's your solution? There is none because pandora is already let out of the box. We can only be reactive at this point to someone who removes the metal from a plastic gun since 2A will never be amended, and a printer blueprint is free speech information.

So let's review here:
1) 2A won't be amended in our lifetimes, nor can the fact that we have the legal right to make our own firearms at home
2) Blueprints are free speech, can't legally touch them as these idiot blue states are about to find out the hard way
3) Printer software with DRM would be easily hackable as we saw with mp3s, and it'd be easy as shit to wipe any printer with software as it is any phone
4) Can't ban 3D Printers

So what's your solution? Ban ABS plastic from printers? Sure, until another material comes along. Can't ban every single material just b/c a theoretical gun could be made from it.

 

[SP33Demon]

The Trump Administration has come up with a lot of policies I oppose. But this one jumps to a whole new level of stupidity and boneheadness. I cannot see how any rational person could conclude that opening a Pandora's box to permit anyone in the world to create unlicensed, unregulated weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing other humans, and most importantly such weapons that cannot be detected by screening systems improves the safety of the public.

All I can think of is Trump thrives on chaos and turmoil, plus the fact the sheer stupidity of the idea is what appealed to him.

It's always been legal to make your own homemade gun. Trump's DoJ is making that process slightly easier with 3D printers, but you still can't sell nor distribute them. Nothing has changed except the technology. It's no different than if I wrote on a piece of a paper the machining dimension for all the parts of an AR, well now we can automate it a little better. Trump hasn't come up with any policy other than translating that blueprints are free speech and you or anyone can use the blueprint to make your homemade gun as we have since the 1700's. It has nothing to do with "thriving on chaos and turmoil". Anyone who wants to arm themselves with a ghost gun can legally do so at home. That is what sets our country out from others, no military in any country (short of nuking us) can take us by force.

The Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA) mandated, among other things, that persons “engaged in the business” of dealing in firearms must be licensed by the federal government. (18 U.S.C. § 921(a)(21)(C).) This development made it illegal for an unlicensed person to make a firearm for sale or distribution. (18 U.S.C. § 923.) In addition, the law requires that firearms dealers must perform background checks on prospective purchasers and maintain records of all gun sales. (18 U.S.C § 922(t).)

However, there is nothing in the GCA that prohibits an individual from making a gun for his or her own personal use. A non-licensed person may make a firearm, provided it is not for sale and the maker is not otherwise prohibited from possessing firearms (such as a convicted felon). (18 U.S.C., Chapter 44; § 922 (d).) Federal law imposes none of the same restrictions on non-licensed possessors, and as a result, homemade guns need not be registered and the owner need not undergo a background check.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

The Trump Administration has come up with a lot of policies I oppose. But this one jumps to a whole new level of stupidity and boneheadness. I cannot see how any rational person could conclude that opening a Pandora's box to permit anyone in the world to create unlicensed, unregulated weapons designed for the sole purpose of killing other humans, and most importantly such weapons that cannot be detected by screening systems improves the safety of the public.

All I can think of is Trump thrives on chaos and turmoil, plus the fact the sheer stupidity of the idea is what appealed to him.

I hate to agree with Sh1tDemon, but he's right. It's always been legal, by actual law (not fake law) to build weapons. You can make a zip gun out of scrap metal and some parts from Lowe's. This has been an established thing for decades, the 2A an established thing for centuries.

Blocking release of this (which ironically has already been released) is a pretty clear 1A issue, and attempting to block 3d printed guns goes against the law dingleberry posted up above (18 U.S.C, Chapter 44; 922 (d)).

 

[1prophet]

This clearly a first amendment issue that is why it is so ironic to see so many free speech defending liberals wanting to ban this published information not realizing the Pandora's box they are opening which can and will be used against their own sacred but controversial cows which conservatives and religious right types might consider as information that is harmful to the general public.

If the Anarchists cookbook and other similar published information is legal then there is no reason this can't be legal, can't see this ban passing a constitutional challenge.

 

[VRAMdemon]

That’s not at all what he said. Here’s his exact words, no spin. 1) he says nothing about illegal sales. 2) why the fuck would have have to talk to the NRA about illegal gun sales? 3) if he’s talking about illegal sales why would it ever make sense?

Let me guess. You are following his don’t believe what you see and what you hear mantra right?

This is classic. He accidentally manages to be on the right side of an issue...but then he blows it, by admitting right there in black and white, that the NRA has approval over federal firearms policy.

 

[Genx87]

I have a question involving logic not emotions concerning this topic.

If using this technology for manufacturing guns were banned is this a violation of the 2A? How could it be when the ability didn't exist at the level of production 10 years ago and nobodies rights were violated back then.

Depends on the technology. It is going to be hard to ban milling machines. If you are talking about the digital schematics. That sounds more 1st amendment than 2nd to me.

 

[Genx87]

For reasons not guns this is great .. I didnt know 3D printing had come this far! Holy crap, with the proper instructions and the right 3D printer you may never need to order another part for your car again.
Yea automation is not going anywhere folks, dont worry, your jobs is safe.
Shiiiiiit.

Automation is probably the biggest issue the world economy is facing in the next 3 decades. We are staring down the barrel of a gun while 30% of jobs are about to be eliminated by automation. And we have no policy to cover the slack. Pun intended.

 

[cytg111]

Automation is probably the biggest issue the world economy is facing in the next 3 decades. We are staring down the barrel of a gun while 30% of jobs are about to be eliminated by automation. And we have no policy to cover the slack. Pun intended.

Plus the advancement of technology as a primary force always changes our society in, at many times unpredictable, ways... Its almost like, the best we can do is to follow through and decide what kind of society we want on top of those premises - instead of the other way around trying to make everything new fit i to 200 year old legislature.. or 2000 year old legislature... Adapt adapt adapt is my motto 🙂.

 

[Ichinisan]

Plus the advancement of technology as a primary force always changes our society in, at many times unpredictable, ways... Its almost like, the best we can do is to follow through and decide what kind of society we want on top of those premises - instead of the other way around trying to make everything new fit i to 200 year old legislature.. or 2000 year old legislature... Adapt adapt adapt is my motto 🙂.

The purpose of the US federal government in this "free" country is not to protect us from guns or from each other. It is to protect us from outside threats to our freedoms.

Of course, people allowed the federal government to expand its role and authority and I resent that. If the government's goal is to make us all safe and protect us from each other, you can't have that without totalitarianism.

 

[Jhhnn]

The purpose of the US federal government in this "free" country is not to protect us from guns or from each other. It is to protect us from outside threats to our freedoms.

Of course, people allowed the federal government to expand its role and authority and I resent that. If the government's goal is to make us all safe and protect us from each other, you can't have that without totalitarianism.

That's ridiculous. From the preamble to the Constitution-

We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America

 

[Ichinisan]

That's ridiculous. From the preamble to the Constitution-

"Domestic tranquility"

Happy home that is not concerned with foreign threats. The federal government is not supposed to have any control within states. It's a perversion of the "inter-state commerce" clause that gives the federal government more power than it should have.

State power is supposed to supersede federal within the borders of that state.

Your absolute power within your own property is even supposed to supersede the state as long as your activities there do not infringe on the liberties of others around you.

Of course, our personal freedom has been eroded gradually over a very long time and it's currently nothing like what was intended.

 

[Incorruptible]

This is a big slap in the face to the gun control thugs.