DOJ finally files lawsuit agaist sheiff Joe.

Texashiker

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In something I think was long overdue, the DOJ files that lawsuit the I hope will finally take Joe A. down.

Sheriff Joe was elected by the citizens of his county.

The department of justice needs to keep its nose out of local law enforcement.

This is a local issue, not a federal issue. If "anyone" should be doing something, it should be states attorney general.
 
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Jaskalas

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It's about time the DOJ took down LEOs defending the border. How dare they protect American sovereignty!?

It's !@#$ like this that tells us where you stand on open borders, no matter how many lies you tell, attacking Americans who protect their country is too obvious.
 

Ausm

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Sheriff Joe was elected by the citizens of his county.

The department of justice needs to keep its nose out of local law enforcement.

This is a local issue, not a federal issue. If "anyone" should be doing something, it should be states attorney general.

LMAO
 

fskimospy

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Sheriff Joe was elected by the citizens of his county.

The department of justice needs to keep its nose out of local law enforcement.

This is a local issue, not a federal issue. If "anyone" should be doing something, it should be states attorney general.

Yeah, since when were civil rights and unconstitutional treatment of prisoners some federal thing? You trying to tell me the federal constitution applies EVERYWHERE now? TYRANNY OF NOBAMA.
 

Texashiker

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Yeah, since when were civil rights and unconstitutional treatment of prisoners some federal thing? You trying to tell me the federal constitution applies EVERYWHERE now? TYRANNY OF NOBAMA.

The federal constitution applies in all 50 states.

States have a government for a reason. We have state, county and city governments. There is no reason for a federal department to get involved in a state issue.

This is nothing more then obama courting the spanish vote for the 2012 election.
 

fskimospy

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The federal constitution applies in all 50 states.

States have a government for a reason. We have state, county, city,,, governments. There is no reason for a federal department to get involved in a state issue.

This is nothing more then obama courting the spanish vote for the 2012 election.

Of course there is. If a state department violates federal law they can and should expect federal intervention. That's what federal law is for, to keep the states in line. (among other things)
 

Texashiker

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Of course there is. If a state department violates federal law they can and should expect federal intervention. That's what federal law is for, to keep the states in line. (among other things)

The people elected sheriff Joe. Since there seems to be an issue, why not prosecute everyone that voted for Joe?

The federal government is doing very little to stop illegal immigration. When someone steps up, the feds do not like it.
 

fskimospy

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The people elected sheriff Joe. Since there seems to be an issue, why not prosecute everyone that voted for Joe?

The federal government is doing very little to stop illegal immigration. When someone steps up, the feds do not like it.

Is this a serious question? Voting for someone to occupy an office who later commits a crime is not the same thing as committing the crime yourself. Similarly if you are a manager at a company who hires someone who later commits a crime, the police do not cart you off as well.
 

Texashiker

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Is this a serious question? Voting for someone to occupy an office who later commits a crime is not the same thing as committing the crime yourself. Similarly if you are a manager at a company who hires someone who later commits a crime, the police do not cart you off as well.

Maybe the people voted Sheriff Joe in for a reason? Maybe the people are fed up with illegals and criminals.

If the people do not like what he is doing, recall him.
 

fskimospy

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Maybe the people voted Sheriff Joe in for a reason? Maybe the people are fed up with illegals and criminals.

If the people do not like what he is doing, recall him.

Irrelevant. If he is violating federal law, he's out.

The courts will decide and perhaps they will totally clear him, you never do know.
 

hal2kilo

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The federal constitution applies in all 50 states.

States have a government for a reason. We have state, county and city governments. There is no reason for a federal department to get involved in a state issue.

This is nothing more then obama courting the spanish vote for the 2012 election.

Yea, violating constitutional rights has never been a federal issue.:rolleyes:
 
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Sheriff Joe was elected by the citizens of his county.

The department of justice needs to keep its nose out of local law enforcement.

This is a local issue, not a federal issue. If "anyone" should be doing something, it should be states attorney general.

In addition, defendants MCSO (Maricopa County Sheriff's Office) and Arpaio pursue a pattern or practice of illegal retaliation against their perceived critics by subjecting them to baseless criminal action, unfounded civil lawsuits or meritless administrative actions.

Seems that some of the locals ARE trying to do something about it, but are being retaliated against for attempting to do so.
 

Lemon law

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Also Sheriff Joe has been ignoring a subpoena to turn in documents for a year or better.

The Sheriff Joe problem is that ALL States must comply with Federal Law, and ole Joe has been running roughshod over Federal civil rights law. I suspect that Joe better start singing a different tune or he will find himself jailed, for contempt if nothing else, and he will look so good in a bright orange jail jumpsuit.
 

Texashiker

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Seems that some of the locals ARE trying to do something about it, but are being retaliated against for attempting to do so.

That is what the state attorney general is for.


Also Sheriff Joe has been ignoring a subpoena to turn in documents for a year or better.

And????


This is an Arizona problem, and should be handled by that state.

Furthermore, my tax dollars should not be going to enforce laws in Arizona. Let the Arizona tax payers handle their own problems, and pay their own bills.
 

chucky2

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Sheriff Joe's office should publically reply back that they'll comply with the Fed's when the Fed's themselves comply with the Fed's and secure the border and enforce immigration like they should have been doing for the past 30+ years.

We can get into small time Sheriff Joe once we get the much larger failure of the Fed willfully not securing our border (probably the #1 thing the Fed needs to be doing in this day and age, along with common currency) out of the way.

Wow, lookee there.....Fed amazingly silent/changing subject from their decades long failure....

Chuck
 

feralkid

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That is what the state attorney general is for.




And????


This is an Arizona problem, and should be handled by that state.

Furthermore, my tax dollars should not be going to enforce laws in Arizona. Let the Arizona tax payers handle their own problems, and pay their own bills.

So where do you think the feds are required to enforce federal law? Mars?
 

feralkid

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Sheriff Joe's office should publically reply back that they'll comply with the Fed's when the Fed's themselves comply with the Fed's and secure the border and enforce immigration like they should have been doing for the past 30+ years.

We can get into small time Sheriff Joe once we get the much larger failure of the Fed willfully not securing our border (probably the #1 thing the Fed needs to be doing in this day and age, along with common currency) out of the way.

Wow, lookee there.....Fed amazingly silent/changing subject from their decades long failure....

Chuck



Right on brother!

If the Department of Homeland Security cannot enforce the laws properly, then the Department of Justice should just stop doing its job as well.

That"ll work.
 

chucky2

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Err, not quite.

The accurate comeback to my post would be:

"Right on brother!

If the Department of Homeland Security won't do the job assigned to it properly, creating and then further allowing an invasion of illegals, then the Department of Justice should spend its resources there rather than spending it on a small time sheriff who's constituency keeps re-electing him.

That would work."

There you go, all fixed for you. :thumbsup:

Chuck
 

feralkid

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Err, not quite.

The accurate comeback to my post would be:

"Right on brother!

If the Department of Homeland Security won't do the job assigned to it properly, creating and then further allowing an invasion of illegals, then the Department of Justice should spend its resources there rather than spending it on a small time sheriff who's constituency keeps re-electing him.

That would work."

There you go, all fixed for you. :thumbsup:

Chuck


You want one department to subpoena another?