Does anyone know how to forgive?

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Ichinisan

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I've never forgotten your postings in this thread. Whenever I see a post from you, my brain automatically thinks: "That's the jerk who doesn't follow the golden rule." (treat others like you would want to be treated)

If I found someone's iPad, I would do everything in my power to identify the owner and return it. I would hope someone else would do the same thing for me.
 

akahoovy

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I'd post the shit he's said in L&R but... it doesn't matter. He represents himself well.
 

HamburgerBoy

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AndroidVageta had poor English and was prone to bouts of rage. Rakehellion is more stuck-up and reminds me of GodlessAstronomer and his brother Mike Gayner.
 

OBLAMA2009

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what if the person was in the military and cold bloodedly killed people in war for the us gov/corporations, is it really that different, cuz i dont think so. and yet we allow people like that with blood on their hands to become cops
 

Phoenix86

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forgiveness is something that can possibly be given by an individual

but forgiveness should NEVER be done by the law

if you murdered someone - even if it was 60 years ago and you're 90 now - you deserve judgement
You are a sad, sad man. So, if I speed, just 1mph over the limit, I can never be forgiven?

Wait, that's silly. I'm sure there is a scale involved here. Can you please point out the point on the scale where society isn't allow to forgive.

1mph speeder--------------------------------------mass murderer.
 

brianmanahan

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You are a sad, sad man. So, if I speed, just 1mph over the limit, I can never be forgiven?

Wait, that's silly. I'm sure there is a scale involved here. Can you please point out the point on the scale where society isn't allow to forgive.

1mph speeder--------------------------------------mass murderer.

wait, what? where did we switch from murder to speeding?

thou dost change context too much.

also, you are free to forgive all you want. but the law should never forgive.
 

Phoenix86

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wait, what? where did we switch from murder to speeding?

thou dost change context too much.

also, you are free to forgive all you want. but the law should never forgive.
Law defines many crimes ranging from simple things to horrific. So, speeding is forgivable, sure, makes sense. However, murder isn't? OK, what's the line between them? Hint: the line is life in prison which doesn't include simple murder in even Texas.

Once someone has served their sentence for a crime, society (law) forgives them (speeders simply pay a fine, done). That's how it works, even for heinous crimes, up to a point.
 

brianmanahan

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Law defines many crimes ranging from simple things to horrific. So, speeding is forgivable, sure, makes sense. However, murder isn't? OK, what's the line between them? Hint: the line is life in prison which doesn't include simple murder in even Texas.

Once someone has served their sentence for a crime, society (law) forgives them (speeders simply pay a fine, done). That's how it works, even for heinous crimes, up to a point.

well imho murder should be followed by death penalty, no exceptions

in which case the sentence would pretty much be The End
 

Ichinisan

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People who get on their moral high horse while simultaneously slinging insults. Hypocrites to the core.

That's how I feel about you. My impression is based solely on your own posts. Can you handle the truth?

Is it an "insult" to think a jerk is a jerk?
 

justoh

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That's how I feel about you. My impression is based solely on your own posts. Can you handle the truth?

Is it an "insult" to think a jerk is a jerk?

OP isn't capable of admitting to any error or wrong-doing. He's just better than everyone.
 

ch33zw1z

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Does anyone know how to forgive? Yes.

Situation descrbied in OP: Very difficult to forgive for damn near everyone. Why? Because most people have never been addicted to free base cocaine.

It's easier to forgive when you can put yourself in that person's shoes. Ever drink and drive? Well, you'll probably be lenient on drunk drivers because you can identify with them.
 

Rakehellion

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That's how I feel about you. My impression is based solely on your own posts. Can you handle the truth?

But you're not able to articulate exactly what offends you, so you just appear snide and self-absorbed.

Is it an "insult" to think a jerk is a jerk?

It's an insult to insult someone. Don't be dense.
 

CZroe

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But you're not able to articulate exactly what offends you, so you just appear snide and self-absorbed.



It's an insult to insult someone. Don't be dense.
He articulated it perfectly. You not only refuse to abide by The Golden Rule, you then defend and try to rationalize those selfish actions be they yours or others who behave similarly. That makes you a jerk by any definition, which also moves us from simple opinion and into the realm of fact.

Instead of apologizing and admitting that you were wrong back then, you take offense and admit no wrong-doing. You have not changed. Let's call a spade a spade. Change or deal with it, jerk.
 
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justoh

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Hey rak, the jerk store called. It's running out of you.
 
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Rakehellion

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He articulated it perfectly. You not only refuse to abide by The Golden Rule, you then defend and try to rationalize those selfish actions be they yours or others who behave similarly. That makes you a jerk by any definition, which also moves us from simple opinion and into the realm of fact.

Instead of apologizing and admitting that you were wrong back then, you take offense and admit no wrong-doing. You have not changed. Let's call a spade a spade. Change or deal with it, jerk.

"The Golden Rule" is exceedingly vague. None of my posts were referenced. And you call it a golden rule, I call it just another opinion.
 

CZroe

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"The Golden Rule" is exceedingly vague. None of my posts were referenced. And you call it a golden rule, I call it just another opinion.

No, it isn't "vague." There is a strict definition: do unto others as you would have them do unto you.

Let me make it simpler:
Don't do anything to anyone you wouldn't want someone to do to you. Got it? Not folowing The Golden Rule is the very definition of being a jerk, and it's something you admitted to with arrogant pride before in the missing iPad thread, as if selfishness was anything to be proud of.

As for referenced posts, he referenced all of your posts in the lost iPad thread, which he even linked to. Dig your hole deeper, why don't you?
 
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CZroe

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Are you sure you aren't making that up?
A jerk is someone you contempt.
It's a conclusion of what makes one contemptuous.

Just analyze any scenario in which the word "jerk" is used for contempt and you will see that it is universally the result of The Golden Rule being broken, even when it's between friends and the result of a friendly prank which did not end the friendship.
 
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Ichinisan

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I'd have no problem forgiving a jerk - if a jerk showed remorse for being a jerk.

No problem at all.