Does anybody have more than this?

[steppinthrax]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
Those who joined the military with a GPA of 4.0 makes me very sad. I guess they were misdirected. I see those Go Army Commercials. They way they make it look so Hollywoodish. But in actually we all know it won't be like that. They get suckered in.

Hello!!!! We have a member of this forum who joined the military AFTER getting his law degree. Are you now saying that what he did was 'sad'?

How about every person that goes to a military academy? Do you have any clue how hard these school are to get into? The level of competition is insanely high. These are very smart and hard working people who want to serve their country by joining the military. And Kerry just insulted every one of them.

This is yet another example of Kerry insulting our military.

And another thing!!!! If this comment is about the President getting us stuck in Iraq and not about the people who join the military then maybe we should remember that Bush actually had better grades than Kerry at Yale. Link

Yes,

Those who get into the military academy are a special class of individuals. When they are enlisted they will be a special unit and doing activites that most of your run of the mill enlist off the street can't do. But again you statistically take the military as a whole people are not that smart there.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Lothar
He's partially telling the truth.
Smart people won't enlist for such an unjust war that has nothing to do with WMD's, terrorism, or "liberation". I know I wouldn't.

How many doctors, pharmacists, lawyers, MBA, and PhD holders actually enlist to go to Iraq?

Wonder why PJ is not in Iraq???

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: steppinthrax
3) Not stupid enought to enlist.

did you seriously just insult our entire enlisted force?!?

-B.S. Computer Science (University of Maryland - 3 years for my undergrad never seen a recruiter)
- M.S. Computer Science (Johns Hopkins University - 2 years for my undergrad)

Can you say the same?

So again what Kerry said was correct. Unfortunately it will anger a lot of individuals who feel otherwise. By the way you spelled Propaganda wrong

1) I'll see your BS and MS, and I'll raise you one AA and one BA... does that make you sad? I mean, after all, I'm also one of the "stupid" guys who serves in the enlisted miliary! (I'd like to take this moment to thank the US Army, and all of my fellow taxpayers, for giving me FOUR FREE DEGREES!!. HOOAH!
2) Thanks for the spelling lesson because we all know that spelling truly matters in online forums!
3) you sound like very other Elitist that I've ever met. good for you. we're all happy that you think you're better than everyone in the modern military. You, bill Mahr, and John Kerry would get along just swell.

1. An AA is not every really respected in the world of academia as a degree. It legally is one but walk around telling higher educated people this and see what reaction you will get. An BA or generally anything with an A on the end of it pretty much means you didn't have the mental amplitude to do the heavy math. Without going into great detail we all know math is hard for some people. Also you were asking were I went, not the amount or level of degrees, so that question is you didn't go to JHU right? OK now... Also you didn't say what type of degrees these were. I mean a BA in psychology is not really impressive nor is an AA in Accounting. We like to call these degrees "cake degrees". Want to party and enjoy yourself, there you go..... Also, again recruiters didn't go around my alma mata. They knew it wasn?t worth it. I did see recruiters around local CCs and vocational schools though. And another thing you don't have to go to the military to get your education paid for. I lived off grants and scholarships most of which were from state and local governments.......

2. It really doesn?t and you can say that about anything. But I can see you have the same beliefs about your grammar as does bush has on his speeches

3. No, not at all, I think there are a lot of intellegent life in the military but the majority of them are not.....

LOL... classic.

1) just to clarify, since you obviously didnt comprehend my poker lingo: I have four degrees. (hence the whole "FOUR FREE DEGREES!" thing). I have a BS in Enterprise Management, a BA in Religious Studies, and an AA in Intelligence Operations. I also have a MS in CS from a very respected school. Coincidentally, I am considering JHU (the Nitze School) for a MA in International Relations... I just wish I had more time! Hey, wait, with all of your l33t math skillz, can you stop time for me? no? not enough "mental amplitude"? damnit.

But thanks anyways for the entire "How to be an Elitist Snob" lecture... I know exactly what you're about now. GG!

2) lol.. your rite, maybee I shoold paye more atentchun too mye speling hear bekuz it iz vary impotent!

3) you just called the entire enlisted corps of our armed forces "stupid," so there is no need for further clarification. thanks again!

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: PELarson
Kerry's response to the attempted distortion.

October 31, 2006

Statement of John Kerry Responding to Republican Distortions, Pathetic Tony Snow Diversions and Distractions

Washington ? Senator John Kerry issued the following statement in response to White House Press Secretary Tony Snow, assorted right wing nut-jobs, and right wing talk show hosts desperately distorting Kerry?s comments about President Bush to divert attention from their disastrous record:

?If anyone thinks a veteran would criticize the more than 140,000 heroes serving in Iraq and not the president who got us stuck there, they're crazy. This is the classic G.O.P. playbook. I?m sick and tired of these despicable Republican attacks that always seem to come from those who never can be found to serve in war, but love to attack those who did.

I?m not going to be lectured by a stuffed suit White House mouthpiece standing behind a podium, or doughy Rush Limbaugh, who no doubt today will take a break from belittling Michael J. Fox?s Parkinson?s disease to start lying about me just as they have lied about Iraq. It disgusts me that these Republican hacks, who have never worn the uniform of our country lie and distort so blatantly and carelessly about those who have.

The people who owe our troops an apology are George W. Bush and Dick Cheney who misled America into war and have given us a Katrina foreign policy that has betrayed our ideals, killed and maimed our soldiers, and widened the terrorist threat instead of defeating it. These Republicans are afraid to debate veterans who live and breathe the concerns of our troops, not the empty slogans of an Administration that sent our brave troops to war without body armor.

Bottom line, these Republicans want to debate straw men because they?re afraid to debate real men. And this time it won?t work because we?re going to stay in their face with the truth and deny them even a sliver of light for their distortions. No Democrat will be bullied by an administration that has a cut and run policy in Afghanistan and a stand still and lose strategy in Iraq.?
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Well said.

He has a better writer now.

Of course he wants to run for President again.

He had his chance, he will have to step over me this time.

 

[CellarDoor]

Ugh, this is almost as bad as the thread where people assumed Kerry wanted to kill the president with a stone. Kerry is just saying that those who don't learn from history are doomed to repeat the same stupid mistakes. Our president invaded Iraq without even knowing the difference between Sunnis, Shiites and Kurds. This is the type of thing that Kerry is making reference to. If you think Kerry is really saying that stupid people end up in the military in Iraq, then you need some help.

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: PrevaricatorJohn
There should be hell to pay for that comment.

Hey! What qualifies a neocon sycophant like you to say that when you obviously don't know anymore about the context of the comment than glenn beck?

If Kerry meant that the lack of an education is a leading reason many young people join the military, he may be right.

BTW -- When did you do any military service in Iraq or anywhere else? :roll:

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: senseamp
Looks like Kerry was speaking about Bush. That if you don't study and work hard, you get (the country) stuck in Iraq.

You could look at it that way but I don't think that's what he was saying.

I guess we'll see what Kerry says about this. From what I understand this was one of the "jokes" he was making about the administration. So it makes sense to me.

 

[PELarson]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Lothar
He's partially telling the truth.
Smart people won't enlist for such an unjust war that has nothing to do with WMD's, terrorism, or "liberation". I know I wouldn't.

How many doctors, pharmacists, lawyers, MBA, and PhD holders actually enlist to go to Iraq?

Wonder why PJ is not in Iraq???

Maybe he is like me

Too old - still by a year or two but the age limit is catching up.

Too fat

and

Too stupid - yes I am calling myself stupid.

 

[theeedude]

Kerry is on TV. Looks like it's working out great. We are going to spend a few more of the last week before election talking about the last thing GOP wants to talk about: Iraq.

 

[BoberFett]

That didn't seem to have anything to do with the troops. If anyone thinks it did, they need a thicker skin.

 

[judasmachine]

In Vietnam if you could find a college educated grunt he was the exception. I've seen a lot of animosity today against those who choose education over service. Also, joining the military is the easiest way for a poor kid to go to college, thanks to the likes of the GI Bill and such. (if you don't get shot or run over by a Humvee that is...)

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: steppinthrax

Originally posted by: senseamp
Looks like Kerry was speaking about Bush. That if you don't study and work hard, you get (the country) stuck in Iraq.

You could look at it that way but I don't think that's what he was saying.

I guess we'll see what Kerry says about this. From what I understand this was one of the "jokes" he was making about the administration. So it makes sense to me.

He is not very good at making jokes.

Next thing Kerry should say to rip on the administration:

"George Bush is so stupid that all the troops should come home in a body bags. All 130000 of them! That will show you idiots how stupid George Bush is"

Kerry is a Troll

 

[imported_Infidel]

Originally posted by: Aisengard
Kerry isn't insulting the troops. He's saying however, truthfully, that that's where you'll end up if you don't get an education because there's nowhere else to go.

Like it or not, that's the case with a majority of the armed forces. Not saying it's a bad thing either, you don't need to be smart to serve your country admirably. It's not insulting, it's a truthful observation. I'm sorry if it hits so close to home.

As someone that enlisted in the infantry straight out of HS, I agree with this comment. I served with the guys that weren't smart enough or didn't otherwise have their ****** together, with a couple of exceptions. Myself, along with those other exceptions, got out as quickly as possible.

 

[theeedude]

Kerry was talking about Bush, not the troops, regardless of whether it also applies to the troops or not.

 

[rhatsaruck]

Originally posted by: ProfJohn
Speaking in at Pasadena City College in California on Monday,
Kerry said,
"You know, education, if you make the most of it, you study hard, you do your homework and you make an effort to be smart, you can do well. And if you don't, you get stuck in Iraq."

It may not have been Kerry's intention to insult every member of our armed forces. But it sure sounds that way to me.

This remark reflects the essential John Kerry: he's Al Gore without the charisma and eloquence.

 

[hellokeith]

Kerry should just come out and say exactly what he is thinking - that he hates the military, thinks the soldiers are dupes, and doesn't understand how so many people would be so stupid to re-enlist at this point in the "mistaken" Iraq war. And the anti-war crowd would be up there supporting him.

I would at least respect the guy for being honest.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: DonVito

John Kerry, like him or not, willfully exposed himself to far far greater peril than you or me in the Navy. You are willfully contorting his remark to mean something he presumably didn't intend...

Interesting that people have no problem doing this exact same thing with the President.

 

[maluckey]

It makes me sad to hear to hear people with little exposure to the military ASSume that enlisted are ill-educated. Tell that to our SOF.

A few posters spent several years doing nothing in a nothing unit and did nothing while they were in, so assume everyone else did the same....sad. If they were truly as specail as they felt that they were, they should have gone to a better MOS...unless they couldn't cut it...

As for Kerry,

If you need someone to analyze and translate what you say, then you either said what they thought that you said, or you just shouldn't speak in public.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: EagleKeeper
his remarks will become so distorted that the Repub will be able to say.

"This is the type of Democrat that wanted to lead this country."

October suprise handed to the Repubs by the Dems. Who figured?

I can't imagine it will have that much traction. America as a whole obviously never loved Kerry...

Huh. All I heard before today about Sen. Kerry is how many popular votes he received in the last Presidential election.

 

[OrByte]

If all we talk about is Kerry and Iraq between now and election day I will be one happy American.

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: PELarson
Kerry's response to the attempted distortion.

Interesting that there was no denial of the "distortion" in any of that - just rhetoric. Gotta love politicians!

 

[theeedude]

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: PELarson
Kerry's response to the attempted distortion.

Interesting that there was no denial of the "distortion" in any of that - just rhetoric. Gotta love politicians!

Why should he deny what he said? That would be like some moron saying he's never been about "staying the course" when he said it on tape a hundred times.

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: OrByte
If all we talk about is Kerry and Iraq between now and election day I will be one happy American.

yes, because it's so often not talked about??! uhh, ya, right.

 

[theeedude]

More Iraq more often this week, please

 

[FuzzyBee]

Originally posted by: senseamp

Originally posted by: FuzzyBee

Originally posted by: PELarson
Kerry's response to the attempted distortion.

Interesting that there was no denial of the "distortion" in any of that - just rhetoric. Gotta love politicians!

Why should he deny what he said? That would be like some moron saying he's never been about "staying the course" when he said it on tape a hundred times.

He surely made no attempt to "correct" the distortion." I agree with this earlier post:

If you need someone to analyze and translate what you say, then you either said what they thought that you said, or you just shouldn't speak in public.