Documents: PETA kills more than 95 percent of pets in its care

[Capt Caveman]

I dislike PETA, but I really don't see anything bizarre with this--well, despite what they say, these animals will have to be killed.

Not sure if they focused more on actually finding homes for these animals rather than taking photos of hot naked ladies wrapped in cellophane, or bloody Natalie Portman in a public restroom, would actually better serve their goals of adopting these animals out--maybe it would.

But I think the reality is that it is simply impossible to care for all of them or find homes for them. I think the worst of it is that it doesn't really reflect the face that they like to portray. As long as it's done humanely, fine. tossing in a dumpster though...

Many shelters in the south only hold dogs for a very short period of time, pitbulls usually only for 48 hours due to the huge overpopulation of strays.

One of my dogs was scheduled for the gas chamber down in GA but thankfully, a rescue in my state drives a van down to GA every month and grabs as many dogs as they can that are scheduled for death. But in general, the majority of dogs picked-up by shelters in the south are unfortunately euthanized.

Too may people allow their dogs to roam free, unspayed or unneutered.

 

[Fausto]

Many shelters in the south only hold dogs for a very short period of time, pitbulls usually only for 48 hours due to the huge overpopulation of strays.

One of my dogs was scheduled for the gas chamber down in GA but thankfully, a rescue in my state drives a van down to GA every month and grabs as many dogs as they can that are scheduled for death. But in general, the majority of dogs picked-up by shelters in the south are unfortunately euthanized.

Too may people allow their dogs to roam free, unspayed or unneutered.

Partially because there are a lot of retards out there who won't neuter their male dogs because of some sort of bizarre testicular projection syndrome.

 

[Capt Caveman]

Partially because there are a lot of retards out there who won't neuter their male dogs because of some sort of bizarre testicular projection syndrome.

That and people don't want to spend the money. Heck, from this forum, most people would rather let their dogs die than spend $100 on vet care. And it's not only in the country side. This documentary will break your heart - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjHIwoblf2c They estimate that there are over 30,000 stray dogs in just South Central LA.

 

[Texashiker]

I don't think that's right. The PETA spokesperson that was on The Daily Show owned a pet dog.

From the movie "I Am an Animal: The Story of Ingrid Newkirk and PETA"

Alex Pacheco: The reason we started PETA was to fight against the enslavement of animals. I really believe animals have been enslaved by humans and are treated just like slaves.

What is the definition if a slave? To own another living being? According to wikipedia, a slave is a person that is kept against their will and treated as property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

Can animals be defined as slaves? To free a slave, wouldn't that require giving the slave the same rights as the owner?

From what I see, PETA thinks animals deserve equal protection under the law, and should not be bought or sold.

They estimate that there are over 30,000 stray dogs in just South Central LA.

There is the answer to balancing trade with china.

 

[AstroManLuca]

I don't think that's right. The PETA spokesperson that was on The Daily Show owned a pet dog.

You know what, I think I was confused over an ad campaign they ran several years ago called "Are Animals The New Slaves?" But in general they were referring to farm animals, not pets.

I don't think it would be totally inconceivable for one of the wackier PETA nutjobs to compare pets to slaves, but the majority of PETA people probably just legitimately love animals and are perfectly fine with owning cats or dogs (although they'd never claim to "own" them; they are "companion animals").

 

[Capt Caveman]

From the movie "I Am an Animal: The Story of Ingrid Newkirk and PETA"



What is the definition if a slave? To own another living being? According to wikipedia, a slave is a person that is kept against their will and treated as property.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery

Can animals be defined as slaves? To free a slave, wouldn't that require giving the slave the same rights as the owner?

From what I see, PETA thinks animals deserve equal protection under the law, and should not be bought or sold.

Please stop trolling. Your ignorance in 99% of your posts is tiring.

 

[Texashiker]

Please stop trolling. Your ignorance in 99% of your posts is tiring.

Maybe foxconn would be interested in trading a few thousand ipads for a few thousand cats and dogs?

Maybe a 10:1 ratio, 10 dogs or cats for 1 ipad? 5:1 ratio for ipods.

 

[AstroManLuca]

Maybe foxconn would be interested in trading a few thousand ipads for a few thousand cats and dogs?

Maybe a 10:1 ratio, 10 dogs or cats for 1 ipad? 5:1 ratio for ipods.

what does that even mean? i don't understand your posts

 

[Texashiker]

what does that even mean? i don't understand your posts

Foxconn is a rather large company in china that produces products for apple.

Chinese eat dogs and cats.

South Central LA has an estimated 30,000 stray dogs.

 

[Capt Caveman]

what does that even mean? i don't understand your posts

He's trolling, like usual.

 

[Texashiker]

He's trolling, like usual.

Its called utilizing available resources.

PETA could sell those animals to china, then use the money for more animal rights campaigns in the US. Throwing fresh meat in a dumpster behind Piggly Wiggly is a waste.

 

[ichy]

Even kill shelters don't kill 95% of animals they take in. I've heard it's closer to 50%. Sad but it's a necessary part of our society

No, if piece of shit irresponsible owners would get their pets fixed it would NOT be necessary.

 

[BladeVenom]

I don't think that's right. The PETA spokesperson that was on The Daily Show owned a pet dog.

“One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV.”
— Ingrid Newkirk, The Chicago Daily Herald, Mar 1990

“Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation.”
— Ingrid Newkirk, Harper's, Aug 1988

 

[Capt Caveman]

“One day, we would like an end to pet shops and the breeding of animals. [Dogs] would pursue their natural lives in the wild ... they would have full lives, not wasting at home for someone to come home in the evening and pet them and then sit there and watch TV.”
— Ingrid Newkirk, The Chicago Daily Herald, Mar 1990

“Pet ownership is an absolutely abysmal situation brought about by human manipulation.”
— Ingrid Newkirk, Harper's, Aug 1988

"In a perfect world, animals would be free to live their lives to the fullest: raising their young, enjoying their native environments, and following their natural instincts. However, domesticated dogs and cats cannot survive "free" in our concrete jungles, so we must take as good care of them as possible. People with the time, money, love, and patience to make a lifetime commitment to an animal can make an enormous difference by adopting from shelters or rescuing animals from a perilous life on the street. But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive."
-- PETA pamphlet, Companion Animals: Pets or Prisoners?

 

[BladeVenom]

But it is also important to stop manufacturing "pets," thereby perpetuating a class of animals forced to rely on humans to survive."

That's the part most people object to. If PETA had their way, there would be no more domesticated animals.

 

[ichy]

Well with the huge number of strays out there I'd be pretty happy if there were fewer pet breeders. The fact that anyone would get a cat from a breeder boggles my mind.

 

[Texashiker]

Well with the huge number of strays out there I'd be pretty happy if there were fewer pet breeders. The fact that anyone would get a cat from a breeder boggles my mind.

Next to the super walmart there is an car repair shop that lets people selling cats and dogs use the area in front of the store on the weekends.

You drive by the store, and there might be 3, 4, 5 people out there with a couple of dozen dogs and cats. Its everything from pit bulls to kittens.

I think to myself, why buy a dog when there are animals at the local pound that needs adopting.

There seem to be two points to the issue:

Irresponsible owners.

Pet factories that crank out dogs and cats right and left.

Everytime I look in the local paper there are several ads for free kittens, or free dogs.

 

[Linflas]

Next to the super walmart there is an car repair shop that lets people selling cats and dogs use the area in front of the store on the weekends.

You drive by the store, and there might be 3, 4, 5 people out there with a couple of dozen dogs and cats. Its everything from pit bulls to kittens.

I think to myself, why buy a dog when there are animals at the local pound that needs adopting.

There seem to be two points to the issue:

Irresponsible owners.

Pet factories that crank out dogs and cats right and left.

Everytime I look in the local paper there are several ads for free kittens, or free dogs.

And yet circling back around to the OP which cited the scumbag Rick Berman as a source, the same Rick Berman that has been working non-stop to weaken or eliminate the anti puppy mill statute voted in by the people of Missouri. He has been waging war not only against PETA but also the ASPCA and HSUS.

 

[Texashiker]

And yet circling back around to the OP which cited the scumbag Rick Berman as a source, the same Rick Berman that has been working non-stop to weaken or eliminate the anti puppy mill statute voted in by the people of Missouri. He has been waging war not only against PETA but also the ASPCA and HSUS.

Well yea, we are talking money. Politicians are going to do whatever their donors tell them to.

I imagine the organizations that help keep those puppy mills in business rake in a lot of money.

I think this is another example of money deciding what is best for society, and in this case animals.

 

[Dr. Zaus]

IF only we could eat dog-veal

 

[Fausto]

Well yea, we are talking money. Politicians are going to do whatever their donors tell them to.

I imagine the organizations that help keep those puppy mills in business rake in a lot of money.

I think this is another example of money deciding what is best for society, and in this case animals.

Which organizations are these, again?

 

[Texashiker]

Which organizations are these, again?

Some that I suspect,

American Dog Breeders Association

American Kennel Club

American Rare Breed Association

Purebred Dog Breeders Association

Any organization that profits from the breeding of animals.

 

[Fausto]

Some that I suspect,

American Dog Breeders Association

American Kennel Club

American Rare Breed Association

Purebred Dog Breeders Association

Any organization that profits from the breeding of animals.

Show me proof, Cletus.

 

[Fausto]

How exactly do they benefit from some idiot cranking out inbred Maltese puppies?

 

[AstroManLuca]

No, if piece of shit irresponsible owners would get their pets fixed it would NOT be necessary.

Totally agreed there. So many fucking irresponsible dog owners. Way too many people paying tons of money for a puppy when there are shelters overflowing with adult (and usually trained) dogs that can be adopted for a small fee.

I will never get a puppy. Our current dog (a boxer) is easily the best dog I've ever known, a former puppy factory whose owners didn't want her back after the rescue spayed her. Our next dog will be from a shelter too (probably another boxer, heh).