do you think that Tookie Williams should executed?

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.

read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.

 

[waggy]

seems he even lied about starting the crips..


so he lies about that and refuses to admit fault. yeah spare him.


CNN article

grr hope this time it works

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: waggy
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/12/williams.crips.reut/index.html">cnn</a>seems he even lied about starting the crips..


so he lies about that and refuses to admit fault. yeah spare him.

link is borked.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.

read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.

i "slammed" your statement because you implied that tookie has always influenced people to act negatively. that is ignorant, regardless of whether people agree with me or not.

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.

read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.

i slammed your statement because you implied that tookie has always influenced people to act negatively. that is ignorant, regardless of whether people agree with me or not.

That is merely your opinion. You think its ignorant. How conceited and arrogant is it to state that your opinion is correct?

 

[KingofCamelot]

Originally posted by: AznAnarchy99
Who is to decide what is just?

If you keep going down that road, you are going to decide that governments shouldn't exist and that we should all live in harmony in nature. Snap out of it. Someone has to decide. The people that matter have decided that its time for Tookie to die. Come 12:01, its lights out for Tookie. Hes had 25 years to convince the powers that be that hes innocent. He did a really ****** job of proving his alleged innocence, and now its time for him to face the consequences of his actions.

Happy execution day! :beer:

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: waggy
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/12/williams.crips.reut/index.html">cnn</a>seems he even lied about starting the crips..


so he lies about that and refuses to admit fault. yeah spare him.

link is borked.

yeap story is gone.

 

[jjyiz28]

good info, nice pictures of the ded

 

[KarenMarie]

Originally posted by: Ronstang

Originally posted by: Mill
Tookie was not going for clemency from day one. He was trying to get a new trial; he was trying to get his conviction overturned. He wanted OUT OF JAIL, that was what he desired. Clemency was just a last-ditch chance to save his life. His ultimate goal was to be out of jail .

He will be out of jail in about 3 1/2 hours. :thumbsup:

The more you post, the bigger crush i have on you.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.

read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.

i slammed your statement because you implied that tookie has always influenced people to act negatively. that is ignorant, regardless of whether people agree with me or not.

That is merely your opinion. You think its ignorant. How conceited and arrogant is it to state that your opinion is correct?

it's not my opinion. it's a fact. he's been active in trying to keep people from joining gangs (regardless of his motivations, he was still an anti-gang activist). he's written books about not joining gangs. how is that being a negative influence?

 

[KingofCamelot]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: waggy
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/12/williams.crips.reut/index.html">cnn</a>seems he even lied about starting the crips..


so he lies about that and refuses to admit fault. yeah spare him.

link is borked.

yeap story is gone.

You mean this story?

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

[/quote]

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.[/quote]

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..[/quote]

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.[/quote]
read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.
[/quote]

i slammed your statement because you implied that tookie has always influenced people to act negatively. that is ignorant, regardless of whether people agree with me or not.[/quote]

That is merely your opinion. You think its ignorant. How conceited and arrogant is it to state that your opinion is correct?[/quote]

it's not my opinion. it's a fact. he's been active in trying to keep people from joining gangs (regardless of his motivations, he was still an anti-gang activist). he's written books about not joining gangs. how is that being a negative influence?[/quote]
he HAS influenced people negatively in the past.
stop being such a douchebag and painting him as a saint.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: KingofCamelot

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: waggy
http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/12/12/williams.crips.reut/index.html">cnn</a>seems he even lied about starting the crips..


so he lies about that and refuses to admit fault. yeah spare him.

link is borked.

yeap story is gone.

yeah that one heh. for some reason my linking skills are sucking today!

You mean this story?

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.[/quote]

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..[/quote]

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.[/quote]
read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.
[/quote]

i slammed your statement because you implied that tookie has always influenced people to act negatively. that is ignorant, regardless of whether people agree with me or not.[/quote]

That is merely your opinion. You think its ignorant. How conceited and arrogant is it to state that your opinion is correct?[/quote]

it's not my opinion. it's a fact. he's been active in trying to keep people from joining gangs (regardless of his motivations, he was still an anti-gang activist). he's written books about not joining gangs. how is that being a negative influence?[/quote]
he HAS influenced people negatively in the past.
stop being such a douchebag and painting him as a saint.

[/quote]

i'm not being a douchebag nor am i painting him as a saint. i'm all for having him rot in prison for his crimes. all i did was just point out that you implied that all he did was negatively influence people, which is not true.

jeez... i figured you'd be woman enough to take a critical comment about an ignorant statement you made.

sorry i ever said anything.... goddamn.

 

[moshquerade]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: moshquerade

Originally posted by: tec699
I'm worried that we may be looking at another HUGE riot in California if and when Tookie is executed.

He influences a lot of people.

if there are riots it will show he still influences people to act NEGATIVELY.

from a forum member i respect, that's the lamest thing i've heard.

could you explain that comment?

yeah. i typically respect what you've got to say. the statement that you made that tookie is only a negative influence was a ridiculous/ignorant statement. i kinda expected better.

WTF would you call it if they riot because he is dead? good? Jesus talk about ignorant statements..[/quote]

??? who said it'd be a good thing? reread what she wrote.[/quote]
read: no one agrees with your slam of my statement. give it up.
[/quote]

i slammed your statement because you implied that tookie has always influenced people to act negatively. that is ignorant, regardless of whether people agree with me or not.[/quote]

That is merely your opinion. You think its ignorant. How conceited and arrogant is it to state that your opinion is correct?[/quote]

it's not my opinion. it's a fact. he's been active in trying to keep people from joining gangs (regardless of his motivations, he was still an anti-gang activist). he's written books about not joining gangs. how is that being a negative influence?[/quote]
he HAS influenced people negatively in the past.
stop being such a douchebag and painting him as a saint.

[/quote]

i'm not being a douchebag nor am i painting him as a saint. i'm all for having him rot in prison for his crimes.

jeez... i figured you'd be woman enough to take a critical comment about an ignorant statement you made.

sorry i ever said anything.... goddamn.[/quote]
apology accepted.

 

[Mrfrog840]

yes

 

[eits]

women.

that's all it ever takes... just a simple apology for proving them wrong.

note to self: work on not proving women wrong as much... it'd make life a lot easier.

 

[bigrash]

Originally posted by: eits
women.

that's all it ever takes... just a simple apology for proving them wrong.

note to self: work on not proving women wrong as much... it'd make life a lot easier.

haha

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: eits

it's not my opinion. it's a fact. he's been active in trying to keep people from joining gangs (regardless of his motivations, he was still an anti-gang activist). he's written books about not joining gangs. how is that being a negative influence?

You mean the one book that sold barely over 300 copies (that went into the hands of Hollywood nannies to read to the elite's children) or the other book that sold 2 fvcking copies?

 

[Leper Messiah]

Originally posted by: eits
women.

that's all it ever takes... just a simple apology for proving them wrong.

note to self: work on not proving women wrong as much... it'd make life a lot easier.

You ever think that maybe we all just got tired of aruging with you? Hm...don't know too many liberal mysognists.

 

[KLin]

Originally posted by: Leper Messiah

Originally posted by: eits
women.

that's all it ever takes... just a simple apology for proving them wrong.

note to self: work on not proving women wrong as much... it'd make life a lot easier.

You ever think that maybe we all just got tired of aruging with you? Hm...don't know too many liberal mysognists.

It was not worth it after his first post. He's trolling.

 

[Pliablemoose]

Originally posted by: eits
women.

that's all it ever takes... just a simple apology for proving them wrong.

note to self: work on not proving women wrong as much... it'd make life a lot easier.

As a front man for the anti death penalty cause, you're not doing very well, I've seen you insult others and now demean women, strong work dude.

 

[EmperorIQ]

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Looney

Originally posted by: KarenMarie

Originally posted by: Looney

How much danger is he to society from behind bars? The fact that he's been able to do so much in such a restricted environment shows how sincere he is. Playing a farce for a short time may be possible, but for 20some odd years?

Look how many ppl have escaped from jail just this month alone. Look how many ppl were parolled, had their sentenced overturned or let out for whatever reason, only to commit other crimes. I am not saying it could/would happen in this case. I am saying it is not impossible.

Those were jail escapes, not prison escapes. County and city jails are much less secured tha prisons.

Additionally, he did the crimes. Forgiveness does not mean that people get off without punishment. I am all for forgiveness, but penalties/punishments still need to be fulfilled. In this case, his crimes of muder and rape... his penalty cost him his life. He has had 20+ years longer on this planet than his victims did, but the bottom line is... he was dealt a penalty/punisment and it needs to be followed thru.

And it is no ones fault but his own.

Again, why would anybody reform if there's no second chances for them? All you want is another black man to die. I wonder if you all felt this way when Karla Fay Tucker was about to be executed.

I dont care if he is green with red polka dots. Color has nothing to do with it. KFT was an axe murderer. She was found guilty, sentenced to death and it was carried out. She begged for clemency and did not get it. She brought it on herself, just as STW has. Sex, color... nothing to do with it.

As for reforming... well, reforming is a decision for the guilty party to take. Just as the action that got them on death row was a choice they had to make and made.

I too personally do not care that he is black, but he was sentenced for something, and the government should follow through on it.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Pliablemoose

Originally posted by: eits

it's not my opinion. it's a fact. he's been active in trying to keep people from joining gangs (regardless of his motivations, he was still an anti-gang activist). he's written books about not joining gangs. how is that being a negative influence?

You mean the one book that sold barely over 300 copies (that went into the hands of Hollywood nannies to read to the elite's children) or the other book that sold 2 fvcking copies?

that's "barely 300" (or about 400) people who got tookie's anti-gang message

 

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