And he'll provide an additional example for them when he's executed December 13th. Let them learn that murder, thuggery and gang-banging are NOT acceptable ways to lvie a life, and that such a lifestyle choice WILL result in the END of your life.
Jason
Because taking the life of a person when there is almost indisputable evidence that they committed one of the most heinous of crimes is wrong?
So because a bunch of thugs take this as another example of "the white man holding a brother down", we're supposed to let him go free? Not even go free, escape the punishment dictated by law?
i was talking about the kids not the ones that are thugs already. those ones dont give a ****** either way. this guy probably would have been dead along time ago if he wasnt in jail this whole time.
Nonsense, there is NO WRONG in executing a murderer. It's called JUSTICE. I agree that there's a sad fact here, that we're looking at *5* lives that could and should have been productive, rational lives, counting Tookie's victims AND Tookie. The fact remains, however, that he murdered 4 innocent people in cold blood, and he should pay the price for that crime. He is not more deserving of life than those whose legitimate *right* to life he denied them. In the ideal situation the entire attrocity never would have happened, the victims would still be living and Tookie would have made himself a decent and useful human being. That didn't happen, it can never happen, and now the piper has come to collect his payment.
Jason
Linflas
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Originally posted by: Looney
Originally posted by: Excelsior
Oh, so you have been in their shoes then?
Similar, yes. I went to prison for a few years when i was younger. Thankfully the Canadian system is heavily focused on rehabilitation and believes that people can change, so i was given a second chance.
Yeah, because people are born to be evil and bad. Environment has nothing to do with it.
Hi Karla, glad to see you are enjoying freedom.
PingSpike
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Maybe if he'd recanted, and not taunted the victims families I'd have more sympathy. But as it stands, he sounds like a pile of sh|t.
This man is not an example of the failure of the death penalty. He can do more good alive? What about that girl who had her face blown off, is she doing better in a casket?
And Looney...you were in prison. But were you rehabilitated after murdering a family for some petty cash or shooting a clerk lying on the floor in the back of the head? Did you feel sorry for what you had done? Did you apologize to your victims, if any?
Maybe he has reformed and could do more good alive. But I doubt it. Its an act. For all the books he wrote, he couldn't be bothered to write one letter to the victims families apologizing for taking their lives before their time.
I don't know if there's such a thing as true evil in this world...but I know I couldn't ever imagine myself laughing about the sound some one's head made when I shot them with a shotgun while they lay helpless on the floor.
This man is not an example of the failure of the death penalty. He can do more good alive? What about that girl who had her face blown off, is she doing better in a casket?
And Looney...you were in prison. But were you rehabilitated after murdering a family for some petty cash or shooting a clerk lying on the floor in the back of the head? Did you feel sorry for what you had done? Did you apologize to your victims, if any?
Maybe he has reformed and could do more good alive. But I doubt it. Its an act. For all the books he wrote, he couldn't be bothered to write one letter to the victims families apologizing for taking their lives before their time.
I don't know if there's such a thing as true evil in this world...but I know I couldn't ever imagine myself laughing about the sound some one's head made when I shot them with a shotgun while they lay helpless on the floor.
Aquila76
Diamond Member
This is one thing that has always pissed me off about the Death Penalty in America. Why do we wait years to execute now? In the past (not even 100 years ago), when you were convicted, you were hung/shot/beheaded right after the trial or the next day. Waiting decades to enact a punishment only serves to blur the atrocities the convicted committed.
"The U.S. Supreme Court, on October 11, 2005, ruled against Tookie on his final appeal and set his execution date for December 13. Thus they disregarded 9 of the 24 Ninth Circuit Court judges' assertion that the District Attorney at Tookie's trial employed "reprehensible and unconstitutional" racist tactics, using animal-in-a-jungle metaphors to refer to Tookie and to the South Central environment in which he lived. This landmark ruling means that minorities can now legally be rejected from juries based on race. This is now the law of the land. (download fact sheet about Tookie's case)"
yes. that's exactly waht it means. UGH.....
what must this look like to the victim's families????
yes. that's exactly waht it means. UGH.....
what must this look like to the victim's families????
If Hitler was caught and "turned around" in prison, should he have been executed? They seem about the same. Both started horrible organizations directly responsible for untold deaths. Both men ordered others to kill. Did Hitler actually kill anyone by himself (not sure)? Williams did...
Aquila76
Diamond Member
I can see that back then, but not now. These type of trials go on forever (when they finally do get to trial), and then the convicted just sit around forever waiting for the right moment to pull a "woe is me" when the media attention has died down and the majority of the population have forgotten why they were convicted in the first place.
5150Joker
Diamond Member
Doesn't matter how much good he's doing now, too little too late. Point is he took someone else's life and should have to pay for that so I vote FRY HIM!
RIP Tookie Dec. 2005.
RIP Tookie Dec. 2005.
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