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Do you carry a gun, why and what is it?

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DanC

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Gotta love this one...


<< The gun is in one dresser drawer, and the bullets are in another. >>


The scenario unfolds - hair-ball breaks into house, owner grabs gun and THROWS it at intruder. Intruder blows away owner, another headline story.

BTW - SigSauer P226 15-round magazines (3 of em) with Cor-bon.
Always loaded with one in the chamber, two extra mags nearby.

God Bless America, Charlton Heston, and the NRA :)
 

Rogue

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I prefer the standard Issue M4 Carbine with retractable stock, 5.56mm. Three round burst takes care of business just fine. 'course, I only use this in training and the one I used belongs to Uncle Sam.
 

Underclocked

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Double .600 Nitro Express from Wilkinsons. Use it to keep roaming black rhino out of the state of Missouri. Haven't had to fire it yet. :confused:
 

StageLeft

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cardiac An AK47 is a &quot;toy&quot; is it? :)

Truth be told if I lived in the states and my wife wouldn't have my nuts on a cutting board for it I think that I would probabaly have a tidy little collection of killing-toys as well. I mean, it would be fun, right? Watch Ronin or Heat, then go to the basement, break out some of my collection and go to the firing range pretending I'm in a movie. I'm glad I don't have to make that decision though...

dabonehead Yes, I doubt anyone on this board has been very irresponsible with their weapons either. The real problem is that its virtually impossible to allow good citizens to get guns and bad citizens not have guns. This is proven by the fact that gun-related crime is so high in the states. You take a nation like Canada or England and gun-related crime is much less, because its hard for _anyone_ to get a gun. Sure you've ocassionaly got situations where a good citizen with a handgun could have saved some lives, but that is outweighed by the fact that gun-related criminal activity is so much less, because guns are just not as prevelant an aspect of society.

Differences in culture are quite difficult to make fair comparisons but you can rest assured that a gun-less lone individual walking through the darkest street of, say, Toronto is going to feel safer than anybody gun-less or not walking through the darkest street of a major US city.

danc Always loaded with one in the chamber, two extra mags nearby. Damn, you looking to get in a frigging street-war?! You are right with the loaded part though, I think that if I kept a gun at home I'd keep it loaded. If I had any children it would have to be locked up - I know that unlocking a drawer when somebody is in your house sucks - but SO many children die from their parent's guns that its worth it.
 

TimberWolf

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Tee_Edwards &amp; Seph:

The Steyr pistol you're referring to is intended for Law Enforcement use only. The cartridge is also for use in a sub-machinegun. The &quot;armor-piercing&quot; aspect of the cartridge refers to body armor (ballistic vests), as opposed to, say, 1/4&quot; steel plate.

The BATF ruling is in concert with world-wide governmental efforts to create a new generation of firearms and high-lethality ammunition that are restricted from civilian ownership and/or use. The arguement in support of this is that &quot;criminals are using better weapons, so the 'authorities' need an advantage&quot;. Of course, and by definition, criminals don't obey laws; and regularly avail themselves of banned items through theft, extortion, or financial incentive if it serves their purposes.

The exact same &quot;reasoning&quot; has been historically advanced to justify harsh (including death) sentences for the possession of the long bow, broad sword, crossbow, katana, chain mail and medieval armor, and (for the &quot;modern world&quot;) automatic weopons. And, historically, any &quot;advantage&quot; generally evaporates after a relatively short period of time.
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As to the original topic:

EAA .45 ACP Witness Compact - I can double-tap a .45 with a fair degree of accuracy, but I never understood why I should use two 115 gr 9mm slugs when one 230 gr .45 ACP will get the job done . . . and

Beretta 96 (.40 S&amp;W) with Meprolite tritium sights
- OR -
Taurus PT-101 (.40 S&amp;W) with standard adjusable sights

For those who are unfamiliar with them, the Beretta and Taurus are physically identical, with minor internal differences. Taurus, a Brazilian company, manufactured the Beretta (Italian) design under license; and then gradually evolved their own product line in various popular calibers (they had a .40 S&amp;W available before Beretta did).
 

Underclocked

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As far as the intelligence level of people on this board, I would imagine we run the full spectrum (take me for example ;) ). But, stupid is as stupid does and gun accidents take only a split second regardless of your IQ.
I once went hunting with an otherwise intelligent young man. He carried his fully loaded 06 bolt action with the SAFETY OFF while walking through some pretty rough terrain. When I noticed this I demanded he engage the safety to no avail. End of hunt and never again!
 

thebestMAX

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3615BUCK -

Does all humor entirely elude you?

OTHERS -

Yes, accidents do happen. Does that mean we should never leave our houses? When you drive, dont park, accidents cause children.

What good is an unloaded weapon. All of mine always are but I dont have any children in the house except for myself.

Anybody out there know what a double tap is? I know you do.
 

StageLeft

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underclocked Well damn that _is_ dumb!

thebestMAX

Yes I think many people here will know that from watching movies and reading books, then psyching themselves up for a trip to the gun range hehe
 

Jumpem

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Anyone used a Heckler &amp; Kock USP .45. It's the fullsize model with the 10 round clip. Russ, or anyone else, what are the laws regarding pre-ban high capacity magazines? I think it is legal to buy ones manufactured before 1994. If so are there any reputable dealers? Thanks!
 

Russ

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<< I try to remember to carry 30 cents to call a cop. >>



Bwuahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!

Hello, this is 911, please hold. Moonbeam to scumbag: &quot;Can you wait a minute, I'll be with you shortly.&quot;

Russ, NCNE
 

Russ

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Jumpem,

You are correct about high capacity mags. It is legal to purchase them if they were manufactured prior to the ban date.

Russ, NCNE
 

eia430

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Russ, actualy yes I have fired a desert eagle. (I realize you were not posting to me but hey, just firing that thing was a privlege) It was a .44mag version of it. A few years back when Market street guns was still in business they had one you could rent and use at their range. For a .44mag it was surprisingly gentle, must be the weight(very heavy) and the gas powered action of that thing. I could never even imagine carrying this huge thing around, a very impractical pistol to carry daily.
 

thebestMAX

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30 cents, 30 cents ?????

&quot;Laugh, chock, cough, giggle,hack&quot;

ROFLMAO. Good luck, see you on the flip side.

Just another example of people thinking things really work like they are supposed to. Wish you were right but...........
 

Ulfwald

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the 30 cents issue goes along with the same line of thinking as &quot;(homeowner to dirtbag) Please wait while I take my mandatory gunlock off my pistol and then get the ammo out of the drawer to load it&quot;

You liberal gun grabbers ought to wake up and start to enforce CRIMINAL CONTROL, not gun control. Hold people accountable for their actions.
 

eia430

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BestMax, yes I do know what a double tap is, although it was unclear if you wanted people to post the definition or to just say if they knew or not. In either case... a double tap is firing two shots in rapid succesion in as tight a group as possible then engaging the next target. Double tapping increases your chances to hit if one round misses (on a far target) or increases your chances of rapidly incapacitating your target (close target, both hit chest area) and this done in minimal time so you can engage the next target. If your concerned with the possibility of body armor and can spare the extra ammo needed, put an extra one in the head for good measure.
 

Isla

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My dad has always had a gun and it has saved his life on at least one occasion. Growing up, I always felt very safe because I knew my dad had a gun and would use it to protect us if needed. He kept it unloaded, etc. etc.

My husband won't let us have one. Not really sure why. However, I wouldn't mind something nice and ladylike... just in case some idiot tries to mess with me... even a stun gun would be fine. Any suggestions?

edit: Moonbeam LOL! I have fended off a would be attacker with my amazing set of lungs and fearlessness (boy, took that guy by surprise!) but sometimes I think something besides a can of mace might be handy... like a stun gun.)
 

Frenchie

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Isla:

Taser

Edit: I have a M1911 .45 semi-automatic; Although there are several newer weapons I like, this was the one that the Army used and I was trained in. It resides, locked, in my nighttable.

As for carrying, I carry a taser. carrying taser

My finacee doesnt like guns, hence in her nighttable, she has a taser: gun taser She also carries the same model that I do.
 

Frenchie

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Ask and you shall receive. Prices are a little on the high side, but they are very good quality, and very good (non lethal) self-defense. PM me if you want to know some of the details or additional info. on the models and their capabilities.
 

thebestMAX

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UFWALD

Well stated, Im right with you.

ELIA430

I was being sarcastic and jocular but Im sure at least you knew that.

ISLA

Ill protect you anytime but dont use that 30 cent thingy.
 

Russ

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Oct 9, 1999
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Isla,

If you are considering a handgun, PLEASE get the training and become familiar with it before it EVER goes anywhere with you. With that in mind, I'd suggest the FEG, Model SMC-380. It's a Hungarian piece imported by KBI, Inc. The fit and finish is excellent, it's very reliable, and quite accurate for a small gun. It is also relatively inexpensive.

Russ, NCNE