Do non-Catholics respect the pope?

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housecat

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Originally posted by: Ornery
I have presented a good picture of what he did and why...

He did nothing anybody else wasn't already doing. It was the crumbling of the Soviet government that finally gave them a chance. Now, if you want to believe he had a big hand in that, then I have a bridge to sell ya!

From what I've seen, his list of achievements include, heading a miserable religion, and trotting around the world preaching about it. Gee, that's swell! :roll:

ya, while you preach on the internet.. people actually listen to what the popes have to say.
 

housecat

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well i've been keeping a tally on how many sheep listen to the vatican..
and how many follow you.

vatican: 1.1billion
you: 0

you are as much a sheep as they are, you just dont realize it.

there are plenty of mentally challenged people who feel special because they think they are the first ones to reject organized religon.
you arent the first one to call religous people sheep.
 

Ornery

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Number of people killed throught history in the name of religion: Tens of millions!
Number of people I've killed: Zero!

Number of people whose lives are ruined because of religion: Tens of millions!
Number of lives I've ruined: ZERO!
 

jadinolf

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I am not a Roman Catholic and I certainly respected him.

I believe that I am not in the minority.
 

DotheDamnTHing

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Originally posted by: Ornery
Number of people killed throught history in the name of religion: Tens of millions!
Number of people I've killed: Zero!

Number of people whose lives are ruined because of religion: Tens of millions!
Number of lives I've ruined: ZERO!

Number of electrons you have killed with your useless and idiotic posts: Tens of millions!
 

DotheDamnTHing

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wow you had the time to quote a post that is a couple days old and was in reference to an article that was excessively long:disgust:

Why dont you drag up every one of my posts just for sh!ts and giggles?

but A for effort:thumbsup:
 

sixone

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Originally posted by: beer
I was sitting over my girlfriend's last night, and I was reading about the pope's condition. I'm not a practicing Catholic, and I don't agree with the Pope's view on things such as birth control/Terry Shaivo/abortion/gay marriage, but I still have a great deal of respect for someone who has always promoted peace and sought to heal rifts with the Jews and eastern christianity. So, it makes me very sad to see him in this state. My girlfriend, on the other hand, said she doesn't give two sh!ts about him, since he hasn't exactly had an affect on her life, and since she isn't catholic it doesn't really matter to her. I got mad at her for saying that, but what is more common, my view or her view, among noncatholics?


I pretty well agree with you. I may not agree with all of his views, but he practiced what he preached, as far as I know. Gotta respect that, especially nowadays.
 
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I'm a southern baptist, I respect his positions, and offer condolences to those who followed/knew him. I don't understand the whole roman catholic hierarchy so I don't understand the big deal of what a pope actually does. I gather he might be the first person to finally have more people observing his funeral than Elvis....that in itself is a miracle.
 

mAdMaLuDaWg

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Originally posted by: Xionide
Hell no, fvck that worm food piece of sh!t.

That was totally uncalled for... how would you like it if someone called someone you respected that. The Pope has done nothing to you to deserve that
 

Lonyo

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Originally posted by: Ornery
I have presented a good picture of what he did and why...

He did nothing anybody else wasn't already doing. It was the crumbling of the Soviet government that finally gave them a chance. Now, if you want to believe he had a big hand in that, then I have a bridge to sell ya!

From what I've seen, his list of achievements include, heading a miserable religion, and trotting around the world preaching about it. Gee, that's swell! :roll:

Obituary

With the break-up of the Soviet bloc, relations between the Kremlin and the Vatican gained a new significance. In 1989, Mikhail Gorbachev visited Rome, the first time a Soviet leader had crossed the threshold of St Peter's.
"The Pope," he told his wife Raisa at the time, "is the pre-eminent moral authority in the world. But he's still a Slav." The understanding between the two men undoubtedly eased the way to democracy in the eastern bloc.

Pope's role in communisms end
 

PlatinumGold

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isn't that like asking if non americans respect the president? sure, we respect him, not as much as catholics do, but it is clearly a position of influence.
 

hippy

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I totally disagree with most all that John Paul II believed...

However, I respect him for believing in his beliefs to the extent he did. He gave more people solace than any of us could ever imagine.

 

DougK62

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Looks like I'm late to the thread, but I wanted to add my comments.

I'm not a religious person, and I think John Paul II was an awesome guy. I obviously don't agree with his religious views, but I have a TON of respect for him and the way he handled other religions. He was constantly working to get all the religions to respect each other. He made multiple visits with leaders and people of other religions, including Protestant Christian, Orthodox Christian, Islam, Hindu, Buddhist, and Jewish, and publicly spoke about how they should get along and made peace offerings. I personally think that religious feuding is one of the biggest problems in the world today, so to see a highly visible and influential person strive for peace is great.

IMO, John Paul II is one of the greatest people that I've witnessed in my lifetime.

 

Dedpuhl

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Originally posted by: TheBDB
I honestly can't say if he has done more good or harm...

Do I respect him? About as much as any other person I don't know.

:thumbsup:

 

CRXican

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not more than I respect anyone else, he's just another old guy if you ask me
 

Spike

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I respect what he has done in his life though I do not believe he is the "voice of God" as some say. This is the position of most of my friends within the Bible study I am a part of through my church. We were all saddened at his departure but know that he did alot of good in his life

-spike
 

CHfan4ever

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Atheist here,I do respect what he done in his life.Its a sad moment for those who beleive extremely hard in him.

RIP JP2.