Do non-Catholics respect the pope?

Page 2 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.

Shawn

Lifer
Apr 20, 2003
32,236
53
91
It's not that I don't respect him, I just don't really care one way or the other.
 

Literati

Golden Member
Jan 13, 2005
1,864
0
0
Originally posted by: Ornery
Well, in that case, so did I!

Ahhh, a name like Ornery, and the content of your posts makes it painfully obvious you're an idiot.

There a mountains of text written on the Pope and his accomplishments, including his worldly ones.

And yet, you still need them pointed out to you. Not only that, you defy them with weak arguements that hold no real weight.

You've asked me to hold your hand and show you what the Pope has accomplished that you should respect him for. Well, I'll take your hand and I'll walk you into traffic you fvcking idiot.

I see you have accomplished great things like not dieing in a fridge while playing hide-n-seek. You deserve our respect. Congradulations.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
not really. stances against abortion and all contraception in poor countries does those people no favors.
 

Ornery

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
20,022
17
81
He did NOTHING of significant value fvcktard, and here's proof:

The Accomplishments of John Paul II
  • "No other world figure has commanded the admiration he has enjoyed as the globe-trotting (over 1/2 million miles) Pope. His kindly smile and fatherly wave have made the 'Pope Mobile' a legend. Although they might disagree with his theology, both Catholics and Protestants have joined in the accolades of praise for this man. .Billy Graham has extolled Pope John Paul, 'as the conscience of the whole Christian world.'" [1]

    "Pope John Paul II wrapped up a grueling week of ceremonies Wednesday [Oct 22 nd 2003] to celebrate his 25th anniversary.A day after giving the 30 new members of the College of Cardinals their trademark scarlet hats, the 83-year-old pope presented the men with their cardinals' rings, which symbolize their link to the Church and the pope..The pope suffers from Parkinson's disease, which in the last few months has made it difficult for him to speak clearly. He is also unable to walk or stand, hobbled by hip and knee ailments and arthritis." [2]

    The world is quite clearly being prepared for the death of the Pope. As the world gazes with fascination on this man and his endeavors, it is of paramount importance to know what the Pope believes, as his title and teachings have captivated the hearts of millions. In human terms of worldly success and acclaim it is hard to find an equal to John Paul II. During his twenty-five year reign as head of the Roman Catholic Church, he has traveled more, spoken more and published more than any of his predecessors.

    "John Paul II has logged more than 1,126,541 kilometers from visits to 102 countries, which is like going around the earth close to 30 times.But perhaps the most lasting imprimatur he has left is his contribution to Christianity's growing list of saints..Vatican observers credit the Pope with being the single biggest influence in the collapse of Communism and the Berlin Wall, for instance his opposition to Poland's Communist regime early in his career showed him as a man who was not just part of the crowd. In 1980 in his address to the United Nations General Assembly he had hoped that there would be 'No more war, war never again! .In more recent times, in the wake of 9/11 he has appealed to the Christian world not to equate Islam with terrorism. The Pope has not only sought collaboration between various churches but also preached reconciliation between the religions of the world.Witness his gift for the grand gesture of kissing the soil of a country on arrival, visiting a mosque, inserting a scroll into a crevice of Jerusalem's Western Wall, embracing the handicapped.Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins, who heads the Vatican office responsible for saints' causes, came somewhere close to assessing 25 years of John Paul II's pontificate, when he said early this month: 'I think this pope will deservedly pass into history as the pope of sainthood. The pope often recalls that sanctity is part of the Church's nature, it is in its DNA.'" [3]
That's from a site devoted to the Pope, and they've compiled nothing but a pile of fluff! What you got, Fernwald?

Who has done more good for humanity, Michael Milken or Mother Teresa?
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
24,778
4
0
Originally posted by: Ornery
He did NOTHING of significant value fvcktard, and here's proof:

The Accomplishments of John Paul II
  • "No other world figure has commanded the admiration he has enjoyed as the globe-trotting (over 1/2 million miles) Pope. His kindly smile and fatherly wave have made the 'Pope Mobile' a legend. Although they might disagree with his theology, both Catholics and Protestants have joined in the accolades of praise for this man. .Billy Graham has extolled Pope John Paul, 'as the conscience of the whole Christian world.'" [1]

    "Pope John Paul II wrapped up a grueling week of ceremonies Wednesday [Oct 22 nd 2003] to celebrate his 25th anniversary.A day after giving the 30 new members of the College of Cardinals their trademark scarlet hats, the 83-year-old pope presented the men with their cardinals' rings, which symbolize their link to the Church and the pope..The pope suffers from Parkinson's disease, which in the last few months has made it difficult for him to speak clearly. He is also unable to walk or stand, hobbled by hip and knee ailments and arthritis." [2]

    The world is quite clearly being prepared for the death of the Pope. As the world gazes with fascination on this man and his endeavors, it is of paramount importance to know what the Pope believes, as his title and teachings have captivated the hearts of millions. In human terms of worldly success and acclaim it is hard to find an equal to John Paul II. During his twenty-five year reign as head of the Roman Catholic Church, he has traveled more, spoken more and published more than any of his predecessors.

    "John Paul II has logged more than 1,126,541 kilometers from visits to 102 countries, which is like going around the earth close to 30 times.But perhaps the most lasting imprimatur he has left is his contribution to Christianity's growing list of saints..Vatican observers credit the Pope with being the single biggest influence in the collapse of Communism and the Berlin Wall, for instance his opposition to Poland's Communist regime early in his career showed him as a man who was not just part of the crowd. In 1980 in his address to the United Nations General Assembly he had hoped that there would be 'No more war, war never again! .In more recent times, in the wake of 9/11 he has appealed to the Christian world not to equate Islam with terrorism. The Pope has not only sought collaboration between various churches but also preached reconciliation between the religions of the world.Witness his gift for the grand gesture of kissing the soil of a country on arrival, visiting a mosque, inserting a scroll into a crevice of Jerusalem's Western Wall, embracing the handicapped.Cardinal Jose Saraiva Martins, who heads the Vatican office responsible for saints' causes, came somewhere close to assessing 25 years of John Paul II's pontificate, when he said early this month: 'I think this pope will deservedly pass into history as the pope of sainthood. The pope often recalls that sanctity is part of the Church's nature, it is in its DNA.'" [3]
That's from a site devoted to the Pope, and they've compiled nothing but a pile of fluff! What you got, Fernwald?

DIAT a$$hole :p

who cares if you don't respect him (tho' it sure as hell is fun flaming you for it :laugh: ) cos you are obviously a prat.

EDIT: total prat, sorry.
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
24,778
4
0
Originally posted by: cavemanmoron
Originally posted by: jjsole
Remarkalbe person. He worked very hard to address contemporary issues facing catholics, young and old, and society in general. I didn't agreed with everything, but he was tenacious, persistent, and very caring.

:thumbsup:

 

TheBDB

Diamond Member
Jan 26, 2002
3,176
0
0
I honestly can't say if he has done more good or harm...

Do I respect him? About as much as any other person I don't know.
 

Literati

Golden Member
Jan 13, 2005
1,864
0
0
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Ornery
worldly accomplishments

Name one!

he killed nazi's :)

and 40,000 babies die of starvation each day, while the poop opposes birth control. how wonderful! :)

That's the fault of the parents who are having children they cannot care for.

Obviously fvcking is more important than feeding the children that result from it to some people.
 

shimsham

Lifer
May 9, 2002
10,765
0
0
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Ornery
worldly accomplishments

Name one!

he killed nazi's :)

and 40,000 babies die of starvation each day, while the poop opposes birth control. how wonderful! :)


great point, because we all know the pope forced those parents to have sex and give birth.

hahah lots of bites on this trolling run.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,795
84
91
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Ornery
worldly accomplishments

Name one!

he killed nazi's :)

and 40,000 babies die of starvation each day, while the poop opposes birth control. how wonderful! :)

but 40,000 babies souls go to heaven!! see the wonderful math?
 

dug777

Lifer
Oct 13, 2004
24,778
4
0
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Ornery
worldly accomplishments

Name one!

he killed nazi's :)

and 40,000 babies die of starvation each day, while the poop opposes birth control. how wonderful! :)

that's crazy stupid talk. Why blame the Pope for that because he's the head of a church that as one of its fundamental tenets opposes birth control...you could with as much foundation blame the parents for being irresponsible, or, and what i think the real issue is here, the governments of those countries, and the developed countries for mismanaging the economy and allowing such poverty to exist...

 

Literati

Golden Member
Jan 13, 2005
1,864
0
0
Originally posted by: Ornery
You're welcome to post a link proving me wrong, numbnuts.

Thanks for giving me your permission to post a link proving you wrong.

I thought I said I didn't care either way? Maybe I misunderstood myself.

Let me clear this up. I don't care.

I'm not your mother, and it is not my job to wipe your ass. You're a big boy and you can clean up your own sh!t, or you can sit in it.
 

nageov3t

Lifer
Feb 18, 2004
42,808
83
91
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: loki8481
Originally posted by: Ornery
worldly accomplishments

Name one!

he killed nazi's :)

and 40,000 babies die of starvation each day, while the poop opposes birth control. how wonderful! :)

in the view of the church, sex = procreation. if you're using a condom, you're obviously not having sex with the intent of procreation and thus, shouldn't be having sex at all as far as the catholic church is concerned. this is also one of the reasons why the church is so anti-homosexual.
 

Martin

Lifer
Jan 15, 2000
29,178
1
81
I am an atheist and yeah, I do respect him. He's one of those very few poeple whom I disgree with, but can't help but like and respect.

Originally posted by: Ornery
Well, in that case, so did I!

Except he did more than any other single person.
 

ohtwell

Lifer
Jan 6, 2002
14,516
9
81
I am not a Catholic and I respect the Pope. He is inspiring to many people and that is something to be respected.


: ) Amanda