Do crime statistics justify prejudice in policing? And what is the solution to the discrepancies?

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cytg111

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I'd propose a compromise where abortion was legal after posting a public notice first with the father being named also. Sorta like when you declare bankruptcy you don't get to do it in private with no one knowing. Maybe make them post a big sign in their front yard like we do when people ask for rezoning of a piece of property. Unborn children deserve at least the same amount of recognition that they're getting shafted as creditors. Irresponsible momma still gets her vacuum tube, she just won't be able to hide and pretend it never happened.

So. Public shaming. One stone throw away from ... stoning. Glenn the Taliban. Good job.
 

glenn1

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So. Public shaming. One stone throw away from ... stoning. Glenn the Taliban. Good job.

If it’s just “a blob of tissue” then what reason would they have to be ashamed? If anything its an opportunity to raise funds for the poor to have abortions. Women could be sponsored like NASCAR drivers with awards given out for a single season records and such.
 

cytg111

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If it’s just “a blob of tissue” then what reason would they have to be ashamed? If anything its an opportunity to raise funds for the poor to have abortions. Women could be sponsored like NASCAR drivers with awards given out for a single season records and such.

And in this imagined dystopian future, we might well conclude that glenn1 is broken beyond repair and thus decide to perform a retroactive abortion on him. Dont worry, we can put the sign on my lawn.
 

glenn1

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And in this imagined dystopian future, we might well conclude that glenn1 is broken beyond repair and thus decide to perform a retroactive abortion on him. Dont worry, we can put the sign on my lawn.

To use your turn of phrase, supporting abortion and killing unborn is just a stones throw away from killing the born, probably with a stop at a concentration camp first. Eugenics was the first mission of planned parenthood after all, right?
 
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To use your turn of phrase, supporting abortion and killing unborn is just a stones throw away from killing the born, probably with a stop at a concentration camp first. Eugenics was the first mission of planned parenthood after all, right?

Is this where you start to call out folks like HG Wells, Churchill, Teddy Roosevelt, Alexander Graham Bell, Helen Keller, Oliver Wendell Holmes, John Harvey Kellogg, Plato, Francis Crick, Herbert Hoover, Henry Cabot Lodge, Henry Ford, et al for being promoters of eugenics?
 
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cytg111

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To use your turn of phrase, supporting abortion and killing unborn is just a stones throw away from killing the born, probably with a stop at a concentration camp first. Eugenics was the first mission of planned parenthood after all, right?

No, this is about me passing judgement on you in regards to something that has zero impact on myself or my day to day business.
Stop passing judgment on people, abortion or otherwise, it is none of your god damn fucking business.
Before you get up in anyone else's business bout having an abortion or not I want to see you do this :
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THEN we can talk about your high and mighty horse. Like you give a crap about human life pfffft... No you just wanna rail on someone cause that makes you feel good inside. Incidentally that is why you are broken.
 

UglyCasanova

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I’m kind of barely following the conversation here but I’m confused as hell. What does the tank man have to do with anything?
 

glenn1

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I’m kind of barely following the conversation here but I’m confused as hell. What does the tank man have to do with anything?

Evidently @cytg111 looks up to the communist regime and its one child policy that directly caused tens of millions of abortions. He aspires to those numbers of abortions himself. The mire abortions the freer you are.
 
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What legitimate government objective would be promoted by publicly shaming women choosing to receive a legal medical procedure and how would this not be an egregious violation of HIPPA?

This is the same guy that claimed that men getting sex changes just to pass PT was rampant in the army. He only knows how to spew lies and FUD. If it weren't for jack he'd only know shit.
 
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fskimospy

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To use your turn of phrase, supporting abortion and killing unborn is just a stones throw away from killing the born, probably with a stop at a concentration camp first. Eugenics was the first mission of planned parenthood after all, right?

Hey wait a minute, I thought you were a super big fan of abortion now that it’s going to bring you your dream of fewer Democratic voters? Again, don’t get soft on me now! We made so much progress?

Was it that you decided that’s what Thanos would like? The good news is that it doesn’t matter what he would like because he’s make believe.
 

glenn1

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Someone needed to flush a 2nd time.

Getting off abortions and back on topic, the obvious answer to OP is we stop wasting money on policing in the areas with the most crime because of prejudice. Let the tribal street law of the inner city go to work so the residents can have the lifestyle they very much want free of the white police man’s interference. Give them the full Mogadishu.
 

fskimospy

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Getting off abortions and back on topic, the obvious answer to OP is we stop wasting money on policing in the areas with the most crime because of prejudice. Let the tribal street law of the inner city go to work so the residents can have the lifestyle they very much want free of the white police man’s interference. Give them the full Mogadishu.

Guys, Glenn would really like to get off the topic about how he’s happy that black kids are aborted more often than white ones and get back to how he’s happy that black people get arrested more often than white people even if they commit crimes at the same rate.
 

brycejones

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Guys, Glenn would really like to get off the topic about how he’s happy that black kids are aborted more often than white ones and get back to how he’s happy that black people get arrested more often than white people even if they commit crimes at the same rate.

You left out that without white cops being around black people will have anarchy. #totallynotracist
 

glenn1

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fskimospy

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working to remediate the situation promotes racism - Republicans

oh well, nothing to be done.
c'mon man, they give them thoughts and prayers, it works equally as well in this situation as it does in mass shootings. T's & P's motherfuckers, T's & P's.
 
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oops, maybe that needed a 3rd flush as it keeps floating back to the surface.

Getting off abortions and back on topic, the obvious answer to OP is we stop wasting money on policing in the areas with the most crime because of prejudice. Let the tribal street law of the inner city go to work so the residents can have the lifestyle they very much want free of the white police man’s interference. Give them the full Mogadishu.
 

1prophet

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Basic Income would let people escape inner city gangs. They would not be limited to living in their territory, and they would not depend on them for income. To fix a broken culture, you've got to make things right with the people in it. You have GOT to give them economic liquidity and mobility.


No it won't because it won't address the psychological chains that hold them to that area and lifestyle, all it will do is just give them a bigger welfare check to spend as they please on more of the same,

what you need to do is take the children out for the summer to camps preferably in the country and rural areas, so they can see that there is a world beyond the inner city slums while teaching them valuable life skills and involving them in activities both physical and mental on a daily basis that way they know that there is more to their future than the gang.

You won't fix all of them but enough so that over 3 to 4 generations the cycle can be broken and the upfront cost to society will by far less than the resulting outcome by doing more of the same which includes just throwing money at the problem.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-feb-06-et-crips6-story.html
'Crips and Bloods' shows true colors

Particularly compelling are interviews with former members of the Slausons, the first known gang in this area. Ironically, it was formed by boys rejected from joining what was then a whites-only Boy Scout troop -- just one of the many sad twists of fate that will lead us to today. Not surprisingly, Peralta finds a largely fatherless community with young boys looking to gangs to figure out how to become a "man."
 

fskimospy

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No it won't because it won't address the psychological chains that hold them to that area and lifestyle, all it will do is just give them a bigger welfare check to spend as they please on more of the same,

what you need to do is take the children out for the summer to camps preferably in the country and rural areas, so they can see that there is a world beyond the inner city slums while teaching them valuable life skills and involving them in activities both physical and mental on a daily basis that way they know that there is more to their future than the gang.

You won't fix all of them but enough so that over 3 to 4 generations the cycle can be broken and the upfront cost to society will by far less than the resulting outcome by doing more of the same which includes just throwing money at the problem.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-feb-06-et-crips6-story.html
'Crips and Bloods' shows true colors

So does that mean we should take the people from the drug ridden rural and country areas and send them into the cities so they can learn life skills and escape the cycle of poverty?

Data shows it's easier to escape the cycle in urban areas than rural ones because in urban areas there are opportunities while rural areas are just becoming wastelands of poverty. If anything we need to be moving people from the country to the cities if we're interested in addressing societal rot.
 

brycejones

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No it won't because it won't address the psychological chains that hold them to that area and lifestyle, all it will do is just give them a bigger welfare check to spend as they please on more of the same,

what you need to do is take the children out for the summer to camps preferably in the country and rural areas, so they can see that there is a world beyond the inner city slums while teaching them valuable life skills and involving them in activities both physical and mental on a daily basis that way they know that there is more to their future than the gang.

You won't fix all of them but enough so that over 3 to 4 generations the cycle can be broken and the upfront cost to society will by far less than the resulting outcome by doing more of the same which includes just throwing money at the problem.
https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-2009-feb-06-et-crips6-story.html
'Crips and Bloods' shows true colors

What data supports this theory of yours?
 

cytg111

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Evidently @cytg111 looks up to the communist regime and its one child policy that directly caused tens of millions of abortions. He aspires to those numbers of abortions himself. The mire abortions the freer you are.

If you are seriously pro life, go stop murder machines by putting yourself in between. Lots of lives to be saved that actually wants your help. Go get em tiger.