DNC files lawsuit against Russia, Wiki Leaks and Trump Campaign

[Genx87]

I mean it’s not THAT absurd. The available evidence indicates Wikileaks has been operating either directly with Russian intelligence or as useful stooges for it for a long time. I mean just look at their reaction to the Panama Papers vs. say, anything criticizing the West.

Come on that is absurd. All of the leaks over the past decade released by this organization that govt officials wanted to prosecute over and not one ever went ahead with it for the obvious reason. They are an independent media organization committing no crime.

 

[zinfamous]

I never said this was negotiable. Certain people on here seem to deny the connection between the DNC and Hillary with the Russians.

The problem is that you have yet to honestly address the connection between you and the abjectly shit sourcing of the dubious information that you prefer to believe.

It is relatively impossible to deny that which does not exist, so there is no problem with the "certain people" that concern you. The only problem is within; and until you address your own denial in the face of objective, evidence-based information, then the outside world will continue to look bizarre to you.

 

[fskimospy]

Come on that is absurd. All of the leaks over the past decade released by this organization that govt officials wanted to prosecute over and not one ever went ahead with it for the obvious reason. They are an independent media organization committing no crime.

Can you explain why it’s absurd and why you think they are independent?

Specifically related to independence can you explain why they have never leaked any substantive documents about Russia, despite that country being basically ground zero for the type of corruption Wikileaks claims to be against? Maybe more importantly can you explain why when others have leaked damaging information about Russian corruption Wikileaks has attacked it?

Does that sound like an independent organization to you? I mean Assange had a TV show on Russian state media for christ’s sake.

 

[Genx87]

Can you explain why it’s absurd and why you think they are independent?

Specifically related to independence can you explain why they have never leaked any substantive documents about Russia, despite that country being basically ground zero for the type of corruption Wikileaks claims to be against? Maybe more importantly can you explain why when others have leaked damaging information about Russian corruption Wikileaks has attacked it?

Does that sound like an independent organization to you? I mean Assange had a TV show on Russian state media for christ’s sake.

So you know better than everybody in power who wants to shut these guys down? If what you say were so true. Why have they not been prosecuted for working directly with Russian intelligence? I mean at least one charge brought to them to get the credibility train rolling.

Until that happens we have innuendo and complaints they release information that paints our govts and political parties being caught in very bad behavior. Which is no crime.

 

[fskimospy]

So you know better than everybody in power who wants to shut these guys down? If what you say were so true. Why have they not been prosecuted for working directly with Russian intelligence? I mean at least one charge brought to them to get the credibility train rolling.

Until that happens we have innuendo and complaints they release information that paints our govts and political parties being caught in very bad behavior. Which is no crime.

Uhmmm, the US has indicated it is ready and willing to charge Assange if/when he leaves the Ecuadorian embassy so that seems to give you what you asked for. And no not for rape, for what you want him charged for.

As for everything else, what are you talking about? Wikileaks not releasing damaging information on Russia is a fact, not innuendo. Assange having a show on Russian state TV is a fact, not innuendo. Wikileaks claiming the Pentagon Papers, which uncovered massive Russian corruption were an international plot by George Soros. This is fact, not innuendo.

If we had a leaking organization run by a guy who never leaked anything about the US, had a show on Voice of America, and attacked all information critical of the US as a plot by Vladimir Putin would you say that person was an independent news source? Of course you wouldn’t. People would laugh in your face. Wikileaks is either run by useful idiots or is in on it. I don’t think Assange is an idiot.

 

[Amused]

The truly sad result of the right-wing media is the absolute ignorance of it's listeners to reality itself

Not only are they in denial about Trump, but they've been led to believe this complete fantasy that the Democratic party will be somehow found guilty of the crimes Trump and his campaign are currently under investigation for. Just as they were led to believe Jade Helm was a coup. That we'd all be put in FEMA camps. That Obama was a Muslim/born in Kenya. That there is a Clinton Kill list... That Benghazi was a coverup, and the examples pile up...

One batshit delusion after another are fed to them and they blindly eat it up and spew it as "truth."

It's become more than obvious to anyone not trapped in a cult echo chamber that Trump will almost certainly not be finishing this term. The evidence and investigation have irreparably tainted his entire campaign and admin.

And yet, the people trapped within the right-wings cult conspiracy media don't see this coming at all. They've been told exactly the opposite will happen. And they believe it.

THIS is the danger that is inherent to ignoring batshit, or worse, promoting it if it works in your favor. The left would be smart to take note of this.

The GOP and it's media have become a deluded cult. Which is sad... because this country NEEDS a multiple party system. The Democrats absolutely NEED an opposition party.

Meanwhile, the only thing that will save the right now is a return to factual, intellectualism and a rejection of propaganda and turning it's voters into useful idiots. Because as it stands now, it appears you only have a 30% or so minority of useful idiots among voters... and that number will continue to dwindle as people start waking up to the fact that the news they're being fed never seems to pan out.

 

[brandonbull]

This frivolous lawlsuit will be dismissed. Hillary lost because of Hillary. She was fat, lazy and corrupt with her dirty foundation taking billions in bribes, destroying evidence that would have had her doing time right now, and having no real ability to lead a good campaign much less a country.

Dismissed.

The FEC(Federal Election Commission) is being sued due to the claim of ignoring the DNC and Hillary's suspected money laundering. http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/feclawsuit.pdf

 

[FelixDeCat]

The FEC(Federal Election Commission) is being sued due to the claim of ignoring the DNC and Hillary's suspected money laundering. http://thefederalist.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/04/feclawsuit.pdf

The DNC needs to be sued for colluding with Hillary and her dirty dealings with the British spy who put together a phoney dossier on Trump, derailing Bernies campaign and all other sorts of scams involving her billion dollar "charity".

 

[brycejones]

The DNC needs to be sued for colluding with Hillary and her dirty dealings with the British spy who put together a phoney dossier on Trump, derailing Bernies campaign and all other sorts of scams involving her billion dollar "charity".

Go for it! Step up and lead the charge or are you really FelixDePussy?

 

[Thebobo]

The truly sad result of the right-wing media is the absolute ignorance of it's listeners to reality itself

Not only are they in denial about Trump, but they've been led to believe this complete fantasy that the Democratic party will be somehow found guilty of the crimes Trump and his campaign are currently under investigation for. Just as they were led to believe Jade Helm was a coup. That we'd all be put in FEMA camps. That Obama was a Muslim/born in Kenya. That there is a Clinton Kill list... That Benghazi was a coverup, and the examples pile up...

One batshit delusion after another are fed to them and they blindly eat it up and spew it as "truth."

It's become more than obvious to anyone not trapped in a cult echo chamber that Trump will almost certainly not be finishing this term. The evidence and investigation have irreparably tainted his entire campaign and admin.

And yet, the people trapped within the right-wings cult conspiracy media don't see this coming at all. They've been told exactly the opposite will happen. And they believe it.

THIS is the danger that is inherent to ignoring batshit, or worse, promoting it if it works in your favor. The left would be smart to take note of this.

The GOP and it's media have become a deluded cult. Which is sad... because this country NEEDS a multiple party system. The Democrats absolutely NEED an opposition party.

Meanwhile, the only thing that will save the right now is a return to factual, intellectualism and a rejection of propaganda and turning it's voters into useful idiots. Because as it stands now, it appears you only have a 30% or so minority of useful idiots among voters... and that number will continue to dwindle as people start waking up to the fact that the news they're being fed never seems to pan out.

You know I don't like to kiss ass but can I have a cheek?!
Sorry Mr president was a lapse of control...

 

[zinfamous]

The DNC needs to be sued for colluding with Hillary and her dirty dealings with the British spy who put together a phoney dossier on Trump, derailing Bernies campaign and all other sorts of scams involving her billion dollar "charity".

You do know that Hillary and her campaign had absolutely nothing to do with Christopher Steele's work, right? Only the RNC, and later, the DNC were involved, and none of that was actually shared with the Clinton campaign. Think about it, idiot: don't you think this would have been a bigger deal if they had known about it before the election? Steele never even knew he was working for the RNC, or then the DNC. His work was contracted out, so he didn't know where the initial funding was coming from. This is all easily-proven information that is in no way controversial. Denial of these simple, base facts is the behavior of a simpleton.

Besides, Christopher Steele's intelligence has been largely verified, and was verified by multiple international intelligence agencies before the election. The Clinton campaign didn't know about it, and the Obama administration didn't know about it until after the election. Those are verified, public facts. More and more of it seems to be close to being verified, as well. Assertion of any other perspective in this matter is the action of an ignorant, idiotic human.

 

[Victorian Gray]

The DNC needs to be sued for colluding with Hillary and her dirty dealings with the British spy who put together a phoney dossier on Trump, derailing Bernies campaign and all other sorts of scams involving her billion dollar "charity".

Dude, I think that it's time to retire. Your trolls are really not up to snuff anymore. Too much meth maybe?

 

[cytg111]

Dude, I think that it's time to retire. Your trolls are really not up to snuff anymore. Too much meth maybe?

Look at it

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

Not a thing about Cohen, not a thing about Hannity, not a thing about Stormy, not a thing about the special counsel.
Full Onset Denial.
No one is feeding our resident trolls talking points anymore, I suspect that is why they seem to be repeating the last track over and over again.

 

[brandonbull]

You do know that Hillary and her campaign had absolutely nothing to do with Christopher Steele's work, right? Only the RNC, and later, the DNC were involved, and none of that was actually shared with the Clinton campaign. Think about it, idiot: don't you think this would have been a bigger deal if they had known about it before the election? Steele never even knew he was working for the RNC, or then the DNC. His work was contracted out, so he didn't know where the initial funding was coming from. This is all easily-proven information that is in no way controversial. Denial of these simple, base facts is the behavior of a simpleton.

Besides, Christopher Steele's intelligence has been largely verified, and was verified by multiple international intelligence agencies before the election. The Clinton campaign didn't know about it, and the Obama administration didn't know about it until after the election. Those are verified, public facts. More and more of it seems to be close to being verified, as well. Assertion of any other perspective in this matter is the action of an ignorant, idiotic human.

I guess for your next trick 1+1 = 3. Your posting is rubbish and has been proven false.

 

[Amused]

I guess for your next trick 1+1 = 3. Your posting is rubbish and has been proven false.

The only thing he got wrong was the Clinton Campaign lawyer's involvement with hiring Fusion GPS.

Everything else is correct. The Dossier was not released until after the election so... no it wasn't used. The Clinton Campaign did not hear anything first because steel whent to the FBI first.

Your comment isn't an argument.

 

[Victorian Gray]

Look at it

https://www.reddit.com/r/The_Donald/

Not a thing about Cohen, not a thing about Hannity, not a thing about Stormy, not a thing about the special counsel.
Full Onset Denial.
No one is feeding our resident trolls talking points anymore, I suspect that is why they seem to be repeating the last track over and over again.

That last point makes a fair bit of sense. They simply don't know where to go/what to say without the arguments being prepared for them in advance and disseminated through the usual channels. Sad.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

You do know that Hillary and her campaign had absolutely nothing to do with Christopher Steele's work, right?

Clinton's campaign effectively paid Steele for the dossier. They aren't insulated merely because they paid Fusion GPS...who in turn paid Steele.

 

[Thebobo]

Clinton's campaign effectively paid Steele for the dossier. They aren't insulated merely because they paid Fusion GPS...who in turn paid Steele.

That's Hannity logic.

Seriously there was no wrongdoing so no one was "insulated" from anything. And effectively? I guess if you buy gas from exxon your responsible for where they get it?

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That's Hannity logic.

Seriously there was no wrongdoing so no one was "insulated" from anything. And effectively? I guess if you buy gas from exxon your responsible for where they get it?

Soliciting valuable political information from a foreign national is illegal...whether it's done directly or indirectly.

 

[fskimospy]

Soliciting valuable political information from a foreign national is illegal...whether it's done directly or indirectly.

That is categorically false. Where did you get this insane idea from?

There’s zero evidence the Clinton campaign did anything wrong here. This is in marked contrast to evidence of extensive criminal activity by the Trump campaign. It’s important to keep focused on the criminal activity despite right wing media desperately attempting to distract from it.

 

[zinfamous]

Soliciting valuable political information from a foreign national is illegal...whether it's done directly or indirectly.

So the meeting in Trump tower between Jr and Russian nationals, promising wikileaks information was....what, again? No Collusion?

lol.

 

[fskimospy]

So the meeting in Trump tower between Jr and Russian nationals, promising wikileaks information was....what, again? No Collusion?

lol.

He apparently thinks that hiring someone to conduct opposition research is illegal if they are a foreign national. It is not. What IS illegal is for foreign nationals to give you opposition research for free, like when Trump’s campaign met with agents of the Russian government in Trump Tower.

I don’t know why he thinks this but my guess would be right wing media. They probably spent a lot of time conflating the two also that people like DSF who are yearning for a reason to believe finally have one.

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

That is categorically false. Where did you get this insane idea from?

52 U.S. Code § 30121 - Contributions and donations by foreign nationals
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/52/30121

(a) Prohibition It shall be unlawful for—

(1) a foreign national, directly or indirectly, to make—

(A) a contribution or donation of money or other thing of value, or to make an express or implied promise to make a contribution or donation, in connection with a Federal, State, or local election;​

 

[Doc Savage Fan]

He apparently thinks that hiring someone to conduct opposition research is illegal if they are a foreign national. It is not. What IS illegal is for foreign nationals to give you opposition research for free, like when Trump’s campaign met with agents of the Russian government in Trump Tower.

I don’t know why he thinks this but my guess would be right wing media. They probably spent a lot of time conflating the two also that people like DSF who are yearning for a reason to believe finally have one.

So if Trump paid for the release of Hillary's emails, that would have been OK?

 

[fskimospy]

So if Trump paid for the release of Hillary's emails, that would have been OK?

Those were materials gained through criminal activity and Trump knew it so no. Compiling the dossier was not.

Jesus guy, come on.