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MrSquished

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If America fell apart and the OP had no choice but to get out and the only option was to head north into Canada, cross the border and apply for asylum, he'd think they were animals if the Canadians separated him from his kids just for the punishment, and potentially permanently.

But these are brown people crossing the border, so right wingers don't care.

Shitty fucking racist people.
 

raildogg

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If America fell apart and the OP had no choice but to get out and the only option was to head north into Canada, cross the border and apply for asylum, he'd think they were animals if the Canadians separated him from his kids just for the punishment, and potentially permanently.

But these are brown people crossing the border, so right wingers don't care.

Shitty fucking racist people.
Ah, another left winger abscessed with race. What are you hiding?

Having a border means something. What other country has a porous border besides America? And what country lets in millions regularly? Who is this benefitting?
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Ah, another left winger abscessed with race. What are you hiding?

Having a border means something. What other country has a porous border besides America? And what country lets in millions regularly? Who is this benefitting?
Because we know if the asylum seekers from the south looked like Scandinavians the conservatives would be building them bridges.

Gee the party of the racist confederate flag and shitting on BLM entirely being racist. What a stretch.

My God you are purposely dense
 

raildogg

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Because we know if the asylum seekers from the south looked like Scandinavians the conservatives would be building them bridges.

Gee the party of the racist confederate flag and shitting on BLM entirely being racist. What a stretch.

My God you are purposely dense

I don't belong to any party.

Let's assume that everyone is of a neutral color:

Do you still want open borders without any control? And what limits should be in place? What is the maximum people allowed to illegally enter?
 

raildogg

Lifer
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Capitalists exploiting cheap labor, federal law enforcement officers, private prison operators, and race baiting fascist Republican politicians.
So you people should be against the exploitation of the illegals then? That means you also support closing the border?
 

Puffnstuff

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While at the doctors office today this matter was the topic of discussion and for the first time D's and R's were in agreement that no money should be paid to them.
 

repoman0

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Uh huh, let's not enforce borders rules so your favorite little political party can win?

Why not remove the border entirely and let 1 billion people in? Where is the limit?

Please don’t put words in my mouth, dipshit. Nowhere in my post did I say we shouldn’t enforce border rules. We can do so without abusing human rights. And now because the Trump admin decided that we need to abuse human rights while enforcing border laws, the taxpayers will be paying for those mistakes, as they should as penance for installing such an obvious piece of shit into the presidency.
 

snoopy7548

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You guys can't actually debate the issue so you just start with the personal attacks.

I'm glad your comfortable with the payouts since you will paying for it one way or another, it is taxpayer money. The amounts are just to large.

There should be NO homeless veterans....it's really terrible advertisement for military service!!!!!

So in your mind, veterans just serve as advertisements for the military? And you expect anyone here to take you seriously?
 

Amused

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Ah, another left winger abscessed with race. What are you hiding?

Having a border means something. What other country has a porous border besides America? And what country lets in millions regularly? Who is this benefitting?

Few, if ANY countries have border walls and physical barriers between peaceful countries.

In point of fact, the current US southern border has far more security than ANY EU border.

The EU allowed 2.7 million immigrants seeking asylum in 2019.

No first world non-communist country has walls on its borders.

Our borders are not "wide open" or "uncontrolled" nor is anyone advocating for that. That is a strawman. What we haven't done is copy the Berlin Wall and act like the USSR, China and North Korea with our borders. We're not a totalitarian nation, no matter how much Trumpers want us to be.

You're believing a fiction about boogiemen you have never met, nor will ever meet.

Who is immigration benefitting? It's benefitting YOU!!! A country with no population growth and no GDP growth dies.

Maybe you should stop believing "replacement theory" white supremacist propaganda and realize these are just human beings. Like you. And they are doing EVERYTHING they can to make a better life for themselves and their children. They just want the opportunity to work and live and raise their kids in relative peace.

Tell me, if you were in a third world country plagued with poverty and violence, wouldn't you do everything possible to get to someplace better?
 
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woolfe9998

Lifer
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I don't belong to any party.

Let's assume that everyone is of a neutral color:

Do you still want open borders without any control? And what limits should be in place? What is the maximum people allowed to illegally enter?

Which person in this thread supports "open borders?" Please say which post number or provide a link.

The republicans say in every election cycle that all the democrats want open borders, yet very few do. Very much like "they're going to take your guns away!"
So you claim to not be a republican yet you repeat republican propaganda in every post.
 

dank69

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You guys can't actually debate the issue so you just start with the personal attacks.

I'm glad your comfortable with the payouts since you will paying for it one way or another, it is taxpayer money. The amounts are just to large.

There should be NO homeless veterans....it's really terrible advertisement for military service!!!!!
Skip 30 genuine replies to your posts and only reply to one where you can say some meaningless shit that's irrelevant to the topic you felt compelled to post about = fuck off troll. If you actually want honest discussion you have plenty of room to prove it in this thread.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
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Skip 30 genuine replies to your posts and only reply to one where you can say some meaningless shit that's irrelevant to the topic you felt compelled to post about = fuck off troll. If you actually want honest discussion you have plenty of room to prove it in this thread.

I will frequently throw out a bs post in response to a new poster (or someone known for trolling) most will address that post instead of the legitimate ones, it’s an easy way to see who’s trolling and who actually wants a discussion.
 

pcgeek11

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According to various articles, these are lawsuit settlements, not reparations. The government is being sued.


Reparation - the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.

Court ordered or not they are still reparations.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Using the term reparations let @pcgeek11 feel better about wanting to shit on refugees. It makes it sound like that somehow they don't deserve to be compensated for the harms inflicted on them by the government. He used a conservative trigger word for a reason in his response.

See my answer above. Duh.
 

MrSquished

Lifer
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Reparation - the making of amends for a wrong one has done, by paying money to or otherwise helping those who have been wronged.

Court ordered or not they are still reparations.

Are you proposing any lawsuit settlement in the US is the same as reparations then? I mean they are similar terms, but if you want to apply it here you have to apply it to all lawsuit settlements.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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While at the doctors office today this matter was the topic of discussion and for the first time D's and R's were in agreement that no money should be paid to them.

Exactly. They need to be sent back home and thats bout it. Then charge them for the plane tickets.
 

FelixDeCat

Lifer
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Are you proposing any lawsuit settlement in the US is the same as reparations then? I mean they are similar terms, but if you want to apply it here you have to apply it to all lawsuit settlements.

You have no idea what you are talking about, please stop spouting idiocy.