Did the cops do the right thing?

[OffTopic1]

Originally posted by: Gurck

Originally posted by: OffTopic
IMHO, I think the cops are trying to be cowboys, because 2 lives are now lost due to negligence.

Much better if they'd lost control of the vehicle due to speed and hit someone, or someone unknowingly pulled out in front of them, etc etc etc, yes? Would you prefer they'd gone on to hit you or someone you love? :roll:

There were at least 2 cop cars when they pulled the maneuver, and they could try to clear the road by having a leading car & a trailing car. The chase was over 70 miles that took an hour; therefore it is ample of time for the cop to radio in for more support if needed.

It could go the other way too that the SUV spin onto on coming traffics and cause a bigger mess.

I still believe that the cowboy cops didn?t know that they were doing...more training needed to minimize the gunho factor.

 

[Gurck]

Originally posted by: OffTopic
There were at least 2 cop cars when they pulled the maneuver, and they could try to clear the road by having a leading car & a trailing car. The chase was over 70 miles that took an hour; therefore it is ample of time for the cop to radio in for more support if needed.

It could go the other way too that the SUV spin onto on coming traffics and cause a bigger mess.

I still believe that the cowboy cops didn?t know that they were doing...more training needed to minimize the gunho factor.

It lost control the way it did because of how & where they hit it; ie. it was no mistake that it didn't go into oncoming traffic. They could clear traffic by having a lead car? Want to elaborate? You lost me on that one. Would you prefer that you or someone you love was hit & killed or grievously injured by the driver instead? Asking again since you didn't answer the last time; I figure you must not have seen the question

 

[DorkBoy]

Originally posted by: jumpr
No, certainly not. The police should have deployed a Georgia State Patrol helicopter and called off the motor chase. Bad decision. DWLS is not a reason to effectively committ manslaughter upon two people, one of whom was innocent.

Not only were the lives of those being chased at risk, but the troopers themselves put their lives in unnecessary danger.

They should NOT have chased that car.

you're a moron.

 

[tk149]

Stupidity kills. Evolution in Action. The gene pool can breathe a little easier now.

 

[Sureshot324]

A person driving 100mph = dangerous.
Raming a person off the road at 100mph = much more dangerous.

Just because a person broke the law, doesn't give the cops justification to anything to stop them.

 

[IamElectro]

The officers did the right thing. I95 in that area can get quite conjested sometimes and some dumb@ss doing a 100mph for nearly 70 miles is not safe.

 

[tec699]

I hope her parents sue and become millionaires. I say stick it to the Georgia taxpayers for this horrible brutal event.

 

[hellfreeze]

Originally posted by: Schadenfroh
They shoulda done like This guy.

lmao. that takes the cake.

but in all seriousness, i'm not even gonna read the rest of this thread. the cop that did the pit-maneuver needs to be thrown off the force. i 100% agree with the helicopter idea. and wtf ever happened with those devices that are supposed to shut off the electric system of a car?

<expecting to be flamed> on the side, do not even think about running from the cops unless u in a super-car or whatever that makes a cop car seem like a hot-wheels car. cuz if you do, ur a friggin idiot for thinking you could get away

whatever happened with pulling alongst the car and shooting out a tire? could have turned to not be a fatal move

<on the joking end> what the cops should have done is called the helicopter into position 5 miles ahead of the car, then had 2 snipers ready to take out the driver...OR...the cop should have pulled alongst side the car, shouted "YOU JUST GOT SERVED BEETCH!" then shot her with his shotgun

*rolls eyes*

funny how people agree so much with what the cops did. it's interesting to think what their reactions would be if the cops did that to someone they knew or a family member. they'd be sueing the living chit out of the department

 

[Andrew111]

Originally posted by: tec699
I hope her parents sue and become millionaires. I say stick it to the Georgia taxpayers for this horrible brutal event.

YEAH, reward the parents for being horrible parents:roll: The fact of the matter is that the stupid bitch wouldn't have stopped running until she crashed into someone or something.......

 

[RobCur]

Their is a reason why she is running away from the cops, I believe that this speeder has been caught numberous times in the past and her license is suspended!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If she is caught, she will be incarcerated and be in serious trouble with the laws anyway you look at it...
Did you guys notice they mention she is on suspended driver's license??? Hello???
86 on 65 or 55 mph limit is seriously breaking the law but hell some think it's ok... fvck them...

 

Originally posted by: DorkBoy

Originally posted by: jumpr
No, certainly not. The police should have deployed a Georgia State Patrol helicopter and called off the motor chase. Bad decision. DWLS is not a reason to effectively committ manslaughter upon two people, one of whom was innocent.

Not only were the lives of those being chased at risk, but the troopers themselves put their lives in unnecessary danger.

They should NOT have chased that car.

you're a moron.

Ah yes, the age-old unaccounted-for flame. Learn to back up your points, DorkBoy.

 

[HoodRich]

seem one time always pushin dey powah how com u didnt see no spike strip or cleared freeway

dem one time luv to destroy car n try out new move an dey dun killed 2 people i wanna see dem in court instead of chasin me n noreaga n fat pat i aint do nuffin!!!!

 

[hellfreeze]

Originally posted by: HoodRich
seem one time always pushin dey powah how com u didnt see no spike strip or cleared freeway

dem one time luv to destroy car n try out new move an dey dun killed 2 people i wanna see dem in court instead of chasin me n noreaga n fat pat i aint do nuffin!!!!

english translation, anyone?

 

[302efi]

Originally posted by: Sureshot324
A person driving 100mph = dangerous.
Raming a person off the road at 100mph = much more dangerous.

Just because a person broke the law, doesn't give the cops justification to anything to stop them.

Exactly...I could not have said it better

What the hell did the Cops think was gonna happen at that speed >

It also seems odd that after JUST 15 sceonds of the Georiga State Police entering in the chase, they decide to do the PIT. ........gunho Georiga State Police

 

[302efi]

Originally posted by: hellfreeze
...the cop should have pulled alongst side the car, shouted "YOU JUST GOT SERVED BEETCH!" then shot her with his shotgun

LMAO

 

[Mill]

I don't think they did the right thing. Many states have procedures for ending a high-speed chase especially when NOT a felony or pursuit of someone who is out to hurt others(I'm sure someone will argue speeding was that choice). Regardless, stop-stick or aerial pursuit would have been much more effective than the PIT maneuver at these speeds. There is nothing to suggest the passenger was ok with her speeding, and I really think that what was done here was wrong. There are many other ways to end a chase without injury or death, and the method chosen here was one of the worst. I actually cannot think of another case in which the PIT was used at this speed. I would think this goes against all training on the PIT maneuver, because it is used to disable the vehicle with minimum harm to occupants. Stop-sticks are much more effective, and probably would have prevented serious injury or death. The wrong decision was made here by the female driver and the police. Too bad for the passenger.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: NesuD

Originally posted by: Cogman
Yes the police did the right thing. If they deployed helecopters it would have AT LEAST been 30 mins before a chopper could get in range. Thats 30mins of high speed driving. Chances are they would have crashed and killed someone who did NOTHING wrong. As for the car hitting someone with the pit manuver, If you listened the cop waited for the road to clear up a little before preforming the task, so they where thinking about the safty of others when they did it.

the driver got what s/he deserved, but I do feal bad for the possibility that the passenger might not have wanted to participate.

Sorry I'm not letting the passenger off the hook on this one. It isn't very difficult to reach over and turn off the key.

Actually, in most newer vehicles it is quite impossible.

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Cogman
Yes the police did the right thing. If they deployed helecopters it would have AT LEAST been 30 mins before a chopper could get in range. Thats 30mins of high speed driving. Chances are they would have crashed and killed someone who did NOTHING wrong. As for the car hitting someone with the pit manuver, If you listened the cop waited for the road to clear up a little before preforming the task, so they where thinking about the safty of others when they did it.

the driver got what s/he deserved, but I do feal bad for the possibility that the passenger might not have wanted to participate.

How do you know how long it would take for an aerial unit to move into position? Are you a trooper with the GSP?

 

[Mill]

Originally posted by: Amused
I think the cops were fully justified.

The drivers, no matter what their crime was before, were now endangerng everyone on the road. The cops could have no idea what they were running for in the first place, so to fault them after the fact is nothing but a case of Monday morning quarterbacking.

The ONLY cause for loss of life here are the actions of the person driving that SUV.

It doesn't matter what they COULD be running for, but what the officers witnessed them running for unless there was a warrant. Here it states that evading in...gia is a misdemeanor.

I'm not mad at the officers for doing what they felt was necessary. I think it is absurd, however, to not think that the procedure defining highspeed pursuits should be looked at. I think a rash decision was made here without consulting other alternative means to effectively end the chase. As I've mentioned and jumpr mentioned, stop sticks are much more effective at disabling a vehicle at high speeds than the PIT. Additionally, aerial pursuit is typically used when speeds approach 100mph, or in a congested area. I'm not getting on the GSP or the officers, but I know what I've been taught in class regarding pursuits and the outside LEOs we've had to speak have backed that up.

 

[Bulldozer2003]

Its the south, of course they chased them, ever seen the dukes of hazard?

 

[JetsFanatic]

yup

 

[Abhi]

Yes..

 

[boomerang]

Originally posted by: tk149
Stupidity kills. Evolution in Action. The gene pool can breathe a little easier now.

Truest statement I've read in this whole thread.

 

I didn't read the entire thread, and I don't plan on it. I'm guessing it's a bunch of armchair quarterbacks flaming each other.

The police should not have tried to disable a vehicle at such high speeds. Closing off the highway, lying down spike strips and trying to box in the car should have been the course of action to take.
But now two youths lives are lost, sad.

 

[PanzerIV]

Hindsight is 20/20. The fact is the girl made the ultimate in bad decisions which was to put her life, her passengers life, the police officers and innocent travelers lives at risk. Would I want this girl slamming into my car at 100MPH because she didn't want to get a ticket? Hell no. If the police let her go due to the unsafe conditions created by a high speed pursuit who honestly thinks she would have started driving the speed limit? More than likely pumped full of adrenaline and fearful she would have continued fleeing at a high rate of speed.

I the the unfortunate victim in this case is the passenger. For all we know they were screaming for her to stop and let them out or they encouraged her. We'll never know.