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Did the cops do the right thing?
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Chiropteran
Diamond Member
It's a felony if convicted. Unless the video was edited to remove the court trial where the kids were found guilty during the chase, they were innocent. Like it or not, that is how the system works in this country.
So if there were no police there would be no danger. If it wasn't for the police chasing this kid the kid wouldn't be running.
Chiropteran
Diamond Member
Please keep your useless personal attacks out of this.
Chiropteran
Diamond Member
Oh, and shows like COPS show every single incident I'm sure.
They obviously pick and choose the mosty entertaining videos, leaving out the majority of boring traffic stops and chases.
Chiropteran
Diamond Member
Hey, someone call the police department and tell them to hire Dulanic!
He can see into the future and read the minds of criminals, think of how great life will be with him stopping crimes before they even occur!
Chiropteran
Diamond Member
Pretend I don't. Please break it down for me.
What exactly are you trying to prove by using cop chase videos as your example?
JackBurton
Lifer
Simple, you run from the cops, you get put into a tree. If all it was was a DWLS, then FVCKING PULL OVER! Otherwise, in the fvcking tree you go.
Dulanic
Diamond Member
It's not reading minds... it's odds. Should we let people run around with loaded guns randomly pointing them at people because they MIGHT not shoot someone?
Your arguement is stupid. Of course something MIGHT not happen. But the odds arent good. Maybe we should let anyone drive around at 100+ MPH like idiots and just let them get away, I mean you know they might NOT hurt anyone.
Have you ever been into traffic court in this country, you are never innocent
you walk the the door guilty right when that radar or laser gun hits you, and you have to prove you are innocent, I know you are suppose to be innocent untill proven guilty but that is not how traffic court these days works, they were guilty the second that radar hit them, then the chose a path of more convictions that let to their deaths,
If you don't like it they pull over
you walk the the door guilty right when that radar or laser gun hits you, and you have to prove you are innocent, I know you are suppose to be innocent untill proven guilty but that is not how traffic court these days works, they were guilty the second that radar hit them, then the chose a path of more convictions that let to their deaths,
If you don't like it they pull over
lol
I think that the police were certainly justified in their actions, however, I do believe that they had not exhausted all possibilities at this point. They could have used a helicopter, stop sticks, etc. but they chose not to. Just because you can justify your actions doesn't necessarily mean it was the best course of action.
Any way you look at it, it's still sad that 2 people were killed.
Any way you look at it, it's still sad that 2 people were killed.
Goosemaster
Lifer
That did not happen.
The GSP either acted recklessly and performed the PIT manuever without contemplating the consequences of their actions, or committed man-slaughter by purposefully performing the PIT manuever fully aware of what would happen.
Injury could have befallen innocents, but it did not. What should be in question is the logic that these employees of the state of Georgia used to pass judgement on civilians, and whether or not their actions were lawful. Don't get me wrong, I have a trememdous amount of respect for law enforcement and I agree that they got a potentially dangerous person off the road, but their methodology was flawed. As police officers and employees of the state of georgia, they have a duty to provide every citizen with safety and due process. In this instance, whether purposefully or ignorantly, the officer acted with deadly force based on probable cause, and ordinarily that would be justifyiable. In this case however, the amount of alternate actions that were available to the GSP and the fact that they still chose to forgo these alternatives in favor of deadly force should raise a liability flag for the state of Georgia.
what's my point? nothing.
Chiropteran
Diamond Member
No, because running around with loaded guns and threatening people with them is a crime in and of itself.
However, the punishment for threatening someone with a loaded gun is less than the punishment for murder, isn't it?
If the only way the police can prevent them from getting away is by killing them, then YES, they should just let them get away. It's like if a police officer just decided to just shoot you for public drunkeness, because he couldn't figure out how to take you into the station any other way. Inability of police to do thier job without killing people doesn't give them the right to kill at will.
the gene pool needs a life guard!!!!
Other methods could have been used, spike strips could work, but then could cause the car to go out of control, just the median, and kill more people. We have had cars jump the median here and kill people before, we even had a cattle truck go through a concrete one on I-75 by my house. box method was probably the best choice, but what if most of the SCHP left the persuit because of it being in GA now and only 2 officers were on the suv, then it wouldn't have worked and the only option left would be to PIT the car and hope for the best.
Other methods could have been used, spike strips could work, but then could cause the car to go out of control, just the median, and kill more people. We have had cars jump the median here and kill people before, we even had a cattle truck go through a concrete one on I-75 by my house. box method was probably the best choice, but what if most of the SCHP left the persuit because of it being in GA now and only 2 officers were on the suv, then it wouldn't have worked and the only option left would be to PIT the car and hope for the best.
Dulanic
Diamond Member
A few flaws in that... first off speeding, driving with a suspended liscense, and running from a officer are ALL crimes. So she commited plenty of crimes.
And secondly youve used this arguement a few times... they didnt KNOW it would kill her. Yes there was a RISK of killing her, just as what she was doing was putting innocent people at risk of being killed.
notoriousformula
Senior member
common chase tactic 🙂
Goosemaster
Lifer
not at 100mph
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