Pohemi
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That's okay, it isn't like they're looking for deep answers anyway when all they do is shitpost and troll.
ivwshane
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DeSantis stated AP Black History has "no educational value"
White centric AP European History is cool with him but Black History, forget it.
DeSantis: "Screw those spooks"
Republicans continue with their nationwide campaign of racism by eliminating black history
White centric AP European History is cool with him but Black History, forget it.
DeSantis: "Screw those spooks"
Republicans continue with their nationwide campaign of racism by eliminating black history
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DeSantis would only allow George Washington not Booker T.
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I hope they sue Florida's ass off. Either allow AP AA history or get rid of ALL AP courses.
Some of those tight assed parents will soon get the point.
Attorney threatens to sue Gov. DeSantis over Florida’s rejection of African American studies course (news4jax.com)
Some of those tight assed parents will soon get the point.
Attorney threatens to sue Gov. DeSantis over Florida’s rejection of African American studies course (news4jax.com)
K1052
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If you could bet on it always being racism you'd never go broke.
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Republicans want to take the cancelling of black history nationwide
Florida wants its strict race and gender law to influence how an AP class on Black history is taught nationwide (yahoo.com)
Florida wants its strict race and gender law to influence how an AP class on Black history is taught nationwide (yahoo.com)
Pohemi
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Because of fucking course they do.
Anything to fight knowledge and progress. Have to keep that base ignorant.
As I've said before DeSantis seems to be running on a 100% culture war platform. I wonder if he was running low on topics and so he's now reaching for things like this, which are bad enough he's finally getting bad press over it.
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This is what you get allowing Republican politicians to take over public school curriculums.
Central Bucks librarian says he was directed to remove Holocaust survivor’s quote from window for violating advocacy policy (msn.com)
Now we can't tell the truth about the Holocaust
Central Bucks librarian says he was directed to remove Holocaust survivor’s quote from window for violating advocacy policy (msn.com)
Now we can't tell the truth about the Holocaust
UNCjigga
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The College Board (AP syllabus overlords) bows to pressure from DeSantis and sets a horrible, horrible precedent for academic freedom nationwide.
www.nbcnews.com
“Earlier this month, state officials announced it had rejected the course due the six areas of concern — Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, Movement for Black Lives, Black Feminist Literary Thought, The Reparations Movement and Black Struggle in the 21st Century — and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.
Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are "not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states" — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.”
Now the College Board says this revised curriculum was in development since March 2022 but the timing of this announcement mere weeks after DeSantis’ decision is highly suspect.
Don’t get me wrong—even a “watered down” course is better than no course, but no word yet on whether Florida will allow it next Fall or wait until 2024 while reevaluating. Still, why is a political operative making these decisions?? I would trust that the College Board has already considered many viewpoints and come to a consensus on a syllabus that will stand on its own against any academic scrutiny. It’s odd that on one hand conservatives are championing parents in school board meetings for taking back local power to challenge how lessons are taught to their kids…and then in the other hand making imperial decrees from statehouses without any sort of peer review.
AP African American studies course is watered down after pressure from Gov. Ron DeSantis
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections criticized by the Florida Republican's administration.
www.nbcnews.com
“Earlier this month, state officials announced it had rejected the course due the six areas of concern — Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, Movement for Black Lives, Black Feminist Literary Thought, The Reparations Movement and Black Struggle in the 21st Century — and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.
Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are "not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states" — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.”
Now the College Board says this revised curriculum was in development since March 2022 but the timing of this announcement mere weeks after DeSantis’ decision is highly suspect.
Don’t get me wrong—even a “watered down” course is better than no course, but no word yet on whether Florida will allow it next Fall or wait until 2024 while reevaluating. Still, why is a political operative making these decisions?? I would trust that the College Board has already considered many viewpoints and come to a consensus on a syllabus that will stand on its own against any academic scrutiny. It’s odd that on one hand conservatives are championing parents in school board meetings for taking back local power to challenge how lessons are taught to their kids…and then in the other hand making imperial decrees from statehouses without any sort of peer review.
hal2kilo
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F Florida, and their voters.The College Board (AP syllabus overlords) bows to pressure from DeSantis and sets a horrible, horrible precedent for academic freedom nationwide.
AP African American studies course is watered down after pressure from Gov. Ron DeSantis
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections criticized by the Florida Republican's administration.
“Earlier this month, state officials announced it had rejected the course due the six areas of concern — Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, Movement for Black Lives, Black Feminist Literary Thought, The Reparations Movement and Black Struggle in the 21st Century — and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.
Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are "not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states" — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.”
Now the College Board says this revised curriculum was in development since March 2022 but the timing of this announcement mere weeks after DeSantis’ decision is highly suspect.
Don’t get me wrong—even a “watered down” course is better than no course, but no word yet on whether Florida will allow it next Fall or wait until 2024 while reevaluating. Still, why is a political operative making these decisions?? I would trust that the College Board has already considered many viewpoints and come to a consensus on a syllabus that will stand on its own against any academic scrutiny. It’s odd that on one hand conservatives are championing parents in school board meetings for taking back local power to challenge how lessons are taught to their kids…and then in the other hand making imperial decrees from statehouses without any sort of peer review.
MrSquished
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The College Board (AP syllabus overlords) bows to pressure from DeSantis and sets a horrible, horrible precedent for academic freedom nationwide.
AP African American studies course is watered down after pressure from Gov. Ron DeSantis
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections criticized by the Florida Republican's administration.
“Earlier this month, state officials announced it had rejected the course due the six areas of concern — Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, Movement for Black Lives, Black Feminist Literary Thought, The Reparations Movement and Black Struggle in the 21st Century — and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.
Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are "not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states" — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.”
Now the College Board says this revised curriculum was in development since March 2022 but the timing of this announcement mere weeks after DeSantis’ decision is highly suspect.
Don’t get me wrong—even a “watered down” course is better than no course, but no word yet on whether Florida will allow it next Fall or wait until 2024 while reevaluating. Still, why is a political operative making these decisions?? I would trust that the College Board has already considered many viewpoints and come to a consensus on a syllabus that will stand on its own against any academic scrutiny. It’s odd that on one hand conservatives are championing parents in school board meetings for taking back local power to challenge how lessons are taught to their kids…and then in the other hand making imperial decrees from statehouses without any sort of peer review.
Fuck Florida and Fuck the fascist racist GQP. Also fuck the college board.
I called the college board and the person said to get an email to the AP side to complain about this, email apexams@info.collegeboard.org
so go for it!
The College Board (AP syllabus overlords) bows to pressure from DeSantis and sets a horrible, horrible precedent for academic freedom nationwide.
AP African American studies course is watered down after pressure from Gov. Ron DeSantis
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections criticized by the Florida Republican's administration.
“Earlier this month, state officials announced it had rejected the course due the six areas of concern — Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, Movement for Black Lives, Black Feminist Literary Thought, The Reparations Movement and Black Struggle in the 21st Century — and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.
Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are "not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states" — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.”
Now the College Board says this revised curriculum was in development since March 2022 but the timing of this announcement mere weeks after DeSantis’ decision is highly suspect.
Don’t get me wrong—even a “watered down” course is better than no course, but no word yet on whether Florida will allow it next Fall or wait until 2024 while reevaluating. Still, why is a political operative making these decisions?? I would trust that the College Board has already considered many viewpoints and come to a consensus on a syllabus that will stand on its own against any academic scrutiny. It’s odd that on one hand conservatives are championing parents in school board meetings for taking back local power to challenge how lessons are taught to their kids…and then in the other hand making imperial decrees from statehouses without any sort of peer review.
If this is the lukewarm resistance they'll put up, then the GOP has won already. How many of their operatives got thru onto school boards this past cycle?
If he can do this as governor, wait until we see his "national standards" as president.
hal2kilo
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Love to see how national accreditation works out for colleges in Florida, if fully implemented. Of course it could be a draw for the racists.
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They should have sued to have all AP courses removed unless the course remained in tact.
Brainonska511
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The College Board folded like a house of cards because they didn't want to hurt their profit margins. Need to have kids take those standardized tests and have schools pay for the AP accreditation.The College Board (AP syllabus overlords) bows to pressure from DeSantis and sets a horrible, horrible precedent for academic freedom nationwide.
AP African American studies course is watered down after pressure from Gov. Ron DeSantis
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections criticized by the Florida Republican's administration.
“Earlier this month, state officials announced it had rejected the course due the six areas of concern — Black Queer Studies, Intersectionality, Movement for Black Lives, Black Feminist Literary Thought, The Reparations Movement and Black Struggle in the 21st Century — and works by Kimberlé W. Crenshaw, bell hooks, Angela Davis and other Black authors.
In the revised syllabus for the course, the College Board made substantial revisions to sections on intersectionality. And gone is a section on the Movement for Black Lives.
Instead, in a section for suggested research project topics — which contains the caveat that they are "not a required part of the course framework that is formally adopted by states" — there are suggestions on reparations, the Black Lives Matter movement and, in a new addition, Black conservatism.”
Now the College Board says this revised curriculum was in development since March 2022 but the timing of this announcement mere weeks after DeSantis’ decision is highly suspect.
Don’t get me wrong—even a “watered down” course is better than no course, but no word yet on whether Florida will allow it next Fall or wait until 2024 while reevaluating. Still, why is a political operative making these decisions?? I would trust that the College Board has already considered many viewpoints and come to a consensus on a syllabus that will stand on its own against any academic scrutiny. It’s odd that on one hand conservatives are championing parents in school board meetings for taking back local power to challenge how lessons are taught to their kids…and then in the other hand making imperial decrees from statehouses without any sort of peer review.
*Edited for accuracy. The College Board actually runs the AP program, whereas ETS is a separate entity that develops and administers the tests.
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What's going to happen when a bunch of religious parents object to geography teaching the Earth is 4.5B years old?
Should those kinds of decisions be made by politicians?
Should those kinds of decisions be made by politicians?
Depends on your school board and who's on it.
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I wonder how Florida "politicians" know the course Is historically inaccurate, and what those alleged inaccuracies are? I guess it's full of "woke" ideas like “slavery was bad”.
Obviously the Black experience in American history is different from the mainstream white experience and deserves to be considered as its own historical discipline.
Florida lawmakers: “BZZZZZZT!”
From what I understand the course is in it's pilot stage of AP course development works. This is supposed to allow educators to experiment with a course and see what works and what doesn’t before College Board considers it an approved standard course. Obviously, this reasonable objective must not be allowed to get in the way of the modern “conservative” movement using the course’s existence as an excuse for their usual culture war political grandstanding and it's standard uninformed conservative hysteria about their “wokeness” boogeyman.
I don't know how people don't see through this. Right-wing power brokers use wedge issues and narrow identity politics to create factions in the underclass and pit them against one another. Intersectionality is the discipline of recognizing shared characteristics and common interests. If it catches on, the underclasses will realize where they’re more alike than different. And from there it’s a short walk to putting wealthy bought off power brokers and politicians on notice. No wonder the powers that be would be so concerned about it.
Obviously the Black experience in American history is different from the mainstream white experience and deserves to be considered as its own historical discipline.
Florida lawmakers: “BZZZZZZT!”
From what I understand the course is in it's pilot stage of AP course development works. This is supposed to allow educators to experiment with a course and see what works and what doesn’t before College Board considers it an approved standard course. Obviously, this reasonable objective must not be allowed to get in the way of the modern “conservative” movement using the course’s existence as an excuse for their usual culture war political grandstanding and it's standard uninformed conservative hysteria about their “wokeness” boogeyman.
I don't know how people don't see through this. Right-wing power brokers use wedge issues and narrow identity politics to create factions in the underclass and pit them against one another. Intersectionality is the discipline of recognizing shared characteristics and common interests. If it catches on, the underclasses will realize where they’re more alike than different. And from there it’s a short walk to putting wealthy bought off power brokers and politicians on notice. No wonder the powers that be would be so concerned about it.
DeSantas has decided that a small, state college in Florida needs to be taken over by his woke brigade. A small college called New College whose whole identity is basically acceptance and inclusion, has had their president fired by DeSantis and he installed some anti trans, anti-“woke” dingleberry to take over and plow over the students, faculty, and administration. This is a horrible story for democracy and free speech. Supposedly students can’t be “indoctrinated” except that is by DeSantis and his revisionist buddies.
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/...lumni-protests-gov-desantis-changes-to-campus
DeSantis points to the school’s focus on DEI and the focus on race and gender as reasons he wanted to overhaul the Board of Trustees. So, he’s cancelling them?!
Yeah, yeah ... Sure, you have
The two weeks routine. Ah, the “people are saying” card. I’m sure they had tears in their eyes.
And todays conservatives can’t have THAT!
My daughter went to graduate school with a New College alumni. It was a great school for her and her fellow students, and they have made, and are ready to make really good decisions on their career path, to great success. She’d be completely unwelcome in DeSantis’s vision of New College. She has as much pride in her school as anyone, and this is really jarring to her. In her words ...New College is very much designed to allow its students to learn independently and to learn how to learn independently. It has the highest ratings in many kinds of academic matters among its graduates. Hillsdale, which Desantis wants to make New College turn into, doesn’t have high ratings in any of those matters.
The two laws of today's Republican cancel culture...
1: A citizen may have the right to speak, except when it comes in conflict with the Second law
2: Any subject deemed harmful, offensive, woke, or in conflict with republican values shall not be spoken, except when it comes in conflict with the first law
https://www.abcactionnews.com/news/...lumni-protests-gov-desantis-changes-to-campus
DeSantis points to the school’s focus on DEI and the focus on race and gender as reasons he wanted to overhaul the Board of Trustees. So, he’s cancelling them?!
Yeah, yeah ... Sure, you have
The two weeks routine. Ah, the “people are saying” card. I’m sure they had tears in their eyes.And todays conservatives can’t have THAT!
My daughter went to graduate school with a New College alumni. It was a great school for her and her fellow students, and they have made, and are ready to make really good decisions on their career path, to great success. She’d be completely unwelcome in DeSantis’s vision of New College. She has as much pride in her school as anyone, and this is really jarring to her. In her words ...New College is very much designed to allow its students to learn independently and to learn how to learn independently. It has the highest ratings in many kinds of academic matters among its graduates. Hillsdale, which Desantis wants to make New College turn into, doesn’t have high ratings in any of those matters.
The two laws of today's Republican cancel culture...
1: A citizen may have the right to speak, except when it comes in conflict with the Second law
2: Any subject deemed harmful, offensive, woke, or in conflict with republican values shall not be spoken, except when it comes in conflict with the first law
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Pohemi
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oh, another small gov rethuglican taking control of and micromanaging....a college. Shocker, I tell you.
Muse
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He's playing up to the white racist vote. There's a lot of it out there.
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