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[MX2]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Mandatory death penalty for child molestors would stop it. Too bad most voters and law makers are too sympathetic to them to enact such a penalty.

For once I fully and 100% agree with you:thumbsup:

Originally posted by: Sundog
I watched the first one and TBO can not watch another one. I get too angry about that kind of sh$t. :|

I agree with this too. I have a hard time watching things where children are harmed or abused. However, informative news stories such as this I usually try to get through them.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: LukFilm
He is not sick, this is very normal in Europe (speaking for Czech Republic).

Just because it's normal, that doesn't make it right.

Slavery in America was once normal, did that make it right?

 

[Sundog]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: LukFilm
He is not sick, this is very normal in Europe (speaking for Czech Republic).

Just because it's normal, that doesn't make it right.

Slavery in America was once normal, did that make it right?

Exactly...although we were just following England's lead.😉

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
Can't say I'm for capitol punishment, but I'm all for longer prison terms.

Why?

It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

 

[JLGatsby]

Originally posted by: Sundog
Exactly...although we were just following England's lead.😉

No actually we were just responding to an invite. Most slaves were bought from African kings who enslaved their own people in order to sell the to Europeans and Americans.

 

[LukFilm]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: LukFilm
He is not sick, this is very normal in Europe (speaking for Czech Republic).

Just because it's normal, that doesn't make it right.

Slavery in America was once normal, did that make it right?

Different country, different rules. Normal in Europe, abnormal in the USA (like many things). My father being 6 years older than my Mom might have something to do with it as well.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: LukFilm

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: LukFilm
He is not sick, this is very normal in Europe (speaking for Czech Republic).

Just because it's normal, that doesn't make it right.

Slavery in America was once normal, did that make it right?

Different country, different rules. Normal in Europe, abnormal in the USA (like many things). My father being 6 years older than my Mom might have something to do with it as well.

Did he start doing her when she was 12 years old?

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: LukFilm

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: LukFilm
He is not sick, this is very normal in Europe (speaking for Czech Republic).

Just because it's normal, that doesn't make it right.

Slavery in America was once normal, did that make it right?

Different country, different rules. Normal in Europe, abnormal in the USA (like many things). My father being 6 years older than my Mom might have something to do with it as well.

That's JLGatsby applying his absolute moralism to people of other countries. If you want to find egotism and hypocrisy in one place, America has a bunch of them.

 

[Captante]

Originally posted by: JLGatsby
Mandatory death penalty for child molestors would stop it. Too bad most voters and law makers are too sympathetic to them to enact such a penalty.

I find myself in the disturbing position of agreeing with you... just goes to show anythings possible!

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: DVK916
The problem I have with PJ is they classify 20 year olds who want to some love from a 14 year olds the same as 50 year olds who want sex from 10 year old. I don't see the big deal with a 20 year old guy and a 14 year old girl.

You have got to be kidding.

No, I think the law should be 8 years younger and atleast 14 years old. As long as they are atleast 14 and no more than 8 years younger than you then it should be legal. Just my opinion.

Sounds like your destined for Prison in my state

 

[GuitarDaddy]

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: DVK916

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: DVK916
The problem I have with PJ is they classify 20 year olds who want to some love from a 14 year olds the same as 50 year olds who want sex from 10 year old. I don't see the big deal with a 20 year old guy and a 14 year old girl.

You have got to be kidding.

No, I think the law should be 8 years younger and atleast 14 years old. As long as they are atleast 14 and no more than 8 years younger than you then it should be legal. Just my opinion.

You're one sick bastard.

And obviously you have no children of your own.

Ok, I would never date someone under 18, but I am just saying I don't understand what is so bad. Do you really have a problem with a 20 year old and a 14 year old being together. In my countries the age of consent is 14.

whats so bad is your one step from being a pedophile and don,t even know it

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

Base on your last statement I'm saying you can't read and way too immature to discuss this topic.

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

Base on your last statement I'm saying you can't read and way too immature to discuss this topic.

So why are you defending child molesters again?

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

Base on your last statement I'm saying you can't read and way too immature to discuss this topic.

So why are you defending child molesters again?

I'm against resorting to Capitol Punishment as an immediate response. If that equates to defending child molesters you have some serious issues.

 

[Conky]

I watched part of that show earlier. I think all these child molesters should have their genitals removed before being let back into the public as they ALWAYS repeat their crimes. :thumbsdown:

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

Base on your last statement I'm saying you can't read and way too immature to discuss this topic.

So why are you defending child molesters again?

I'm against resorting to Capitol Punishment as an immediate response. If that equates to defending child molesters you have some serious issues.

So you're saying that molesting children is not an extreme criminal case? I just want to make sure I understand you on this matter. I'm sure you're not a parent as well right?

If you believe it to not be extreme, what is the punishment (if any) you believe child molesters should serve?

 

[Ricochet]

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

Base on your last statement I'm saying you can't read and way too immature to discuss this topic.

So why are you defending child molesters again?

I'm against resorting to Capitol Punishment as an immediate response. If that equates to defending child molesters you have some serious issues.

So you're saying that molesting children is not an extreme criminal case? I just want to make sure I understand you on this matter. I'm sure you're not a parent as well right?

If you believe it to not be extreme, what is the punishment (if any) you believe child molesters should serve?

Three scenarios for you to ponder:

1. 24 y/o man has consensual sex with 15 y/o female.

2. 50 y/o man with repeated molestation history forcefully rape an 8 y/o girl.

3. 13 y/o female with fake ID enters the porn business and regularly has sex with 30+ y/o men and later her age is revealed.

All three are criminal activities. Do all the men deserve death sentences? Zero tolerence laws rarely ever work. I prefer to have a courtroom judge and a panel of juries decide on a case by case basis than follow some joe schmoe concept of zero tolerance laws.

For me #2 would be serious enough for death row consideration. But I would listen to all the evidence if I was part of a jury and take into acount all the opinions of all the other jury members before passing judgement. Since you missed my statement about registered offenders you seem to think I don't want to punish these guys?

 

[SmoochyTX]

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: SmoochyTX

Originally posted by: ricochet

Originally posted by: JLGatsby

Originally posted by: ricochet
It should only be reserved for the most extreme criminal cases, ie murder. All others should be put to hard labor that could benefit society so our tax money won't go to waste.

So raping a small child isn't "extreme"? What are you smoking?

I don't consider early teens to be small children. But each case should be handled on a case by case basis. That's why we have a court system.

Unlike you I'm not too quick to have someone killed. It's not me that's smoking.

To each molester his own I guess.

Just because other people don't have a black and white world view you imply they are molesters. Good one.

If you watched the show you'd realize there is a doctor that appeared on there making a statement about child molester being truly sick. It's not that some of these people want to do wrong but that they are truly pathologically sick. His views are unpopular so of course it has no credibility. No one is saying that they should get off lightly of their crime. In fact, I believe registered offenders are given way too much freedom and leniency.

What bothers me about you people is that when you hear a story about some 20+ y/o female teacher boning a 13y/o male student most of you are on the cheering bandwagon.

A lot of you base your moral indignation on your gut feeling (or personal feeling) rather than objectivity.

So what you're saying is that you're emotionally and pathologically sick? I also bet you're hoping you never get caught as well? :roll:

Base on your last statement I'm saying you can't read and way too immature to discuss this topic.

So why are you defending child molesters again?

I'm against resorting to Capitol Punishment as an immediate response. If that equates to defending child molesters you have some serious issues.

So you're saying that molesting children is not an extreme criminal case? I just want to make sure I understand you on this matter. I'm sure you're not a parent as well right?

If you believe it to not be extreme, what is the punishment (if any) you believe child molesters should serve?

Three scenarios for you to ponder:

1. 24 y/o man has consensual sex with 15 y/o female.

2. 50 y/o man with repeated molestation history forcefully rape an 8 y/o girl.

3. 13 y/o female with fake ID enters the porn business and regularly has sex with 30+ y/o men and later her age is revealed.

All three are criminal activities. Do all the men deserve death sentences? Zero tolerence laws rarely ever work. I prefer to have a courtroom judge and a panel of juries decide on a case by case basis than follow some joe schmoe concept of zero tolerance laws.

For me #2 would be serious enough for death row consideration. But I would listen to all the evidence if I was part of a jury and take into acount all the opinions of all the other jury members before passing judgement. Since you missed my statement about registered offenders you seem to think I don't want to punish these guys?

While forcible rape as you outline in your #2 scenario is indeed a horrendous crime, so are scenarios #1 and #3. A girl that age does not have the legal ability to consent to sex - and there's a reason for that. Because they're a minor!!!! A minor has no legal ability to make decisions in his/her life at that age unless provided so by a judge.

If you still want to make the argument that it's OK that a male (conservatively aged 16-500 years old) has the legal right to have sex with a female age 12 or 13 years old, then you really do have issues. I feel sorry for you and for any children (and grandchildren) you may have in the future.

 

[DVK916]

Some shocking informaiton. The teacher who was arrested, his lawyer is being paid for by the teacher union.

 

[Cruisin1]

http://www.riversidesheriff.org/press/06013jv2.htm

Thats all of them perverted sick bastards from the show that got arrested. #5 I used to be friends with when I was a kid... creepy. All 50 of these guys deserved to be castrated.