Daily Kos And Obama Site Using Forged Birth Certificate?

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The media seems to be ignoring this like they did our current bush's service record. Very suspicious.

Oh, what was that? Did you just see someone peeking in the window at you, buttercakes?
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: OrByte
The worst thing that could happen to the OP and people like him is an Obama Presidency. I can't wait to see that happen :)

The worst thing that could happen to the US now would be to have a superficial, marxist hack from Chicago's political machine become President and then let loose all the weirdness that's lurking backsatge. If McCain gets his act together you might be waiting a long time because Kid Sunshine is a very vulnerable candidate. A blow out is not far fetched.
 

Xavier434

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Originally posted by: Xavier434
You know...I really do not care where this man or any other man was born. All I care about is what I believe he will do when he becomes the President of the United States. The clock is ticking BB.

Thankfully the CONSTITUTION DOES CARE...

But wait you probably don't care about that either!

I realize the intent of that part of the Constitution and in the majority of cases I agree with what it has to say throughout the entire document. However, in my mind, nothing is set in stone. To believe otherwise just seems foolish to me. There are always exceptions to everything.

Regardless, Obama qualifies. This is all a bunch of nonsense.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.

Do you believe that by asserting that 2 + 2 = 5 over and over again that you can get the rest of us to believe it too?

Your claims have already been shot down as bogus. That is the reality. Repeating them over and over again won't make them magically become real.

And Obama is not my guru or anything like that. I'm voting for him mostly because Neo-Nazi whacktards like you are so afraid of him.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.

you have no proof to back up your "reality"


You have no proof of an authentic BO certificate - that is the reality in question. A fake photo image thats obviously been doctored and has no stamp is only something the Bama-bots can ignore.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: seemingly random
The media seems to be ignoring this like they did our current bush's service record. Very suspicious.

Oh, what was that? Did you just see someone peeking in the window at you, buttercakes?


They didn't ignore it - indeed they tried to manufacture some of it. The liberal media and forged documents are not strangers to each other
 

Red Dawn

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
If McCain gets his act together you might be waiting a long time because Kid Sunshine is a very vulnerable candidate. A blow out is not far fetched.
If more McCain supporters like you become visible to the public that old crank wouldn't stand a chance in hell.
 

ElFenix

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Thankfully the CONSTITUTION DOES CARE...

You mean you care like in that Republican movement a couple of years ago to get that part of the Constitution amended so Ahnold could run for President?
i don't really understand how this is a retort to what GoPackGo posted
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: OrByte
The worst thing that could happen to the OP and people like him is an Obama Presidency. I can't wait to see that happen :)

The worst thing that could happen to the US now would be to have a superficial, marxist hack from Chicago's political machine become President and then let loose all the weirdness that's lurking backsatge. If McCain gets his act together you might be waiting a long time because Kid Sunshine is a very vulnerable candidate. A blow out is not far fetched.
hehehe McCain has had 70+ years to try and get his act together, and since 2000 he has undergone an "extreme makeover" to look more like GWB, which won't help him in a national popularity contest that's for sure, but it did help him get this far. Face it, your GOP doesn't have what it takes to get over the GWB nightmare that our country needs to wake up from, and for that you have no one to blame but yourself and other people like you...people who would rather vote against the "Gay agenda" then vote about issues that ACTUALLY matter. GWB and his cronies used you.

Somehow I think that even if Obama wins you will never see or understand, because reality eludes you.

Maybe for your sake we can start a thread for you after Obama's victory that states that McCain won, "in a landslide"...it might help you cope with matters....
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.

Do you believe that by asserting that 2 + 2 = 5 over and over again that you can get the rest of us to believe it too?

Your claims have already been shot down as bogus. That is the reality. Repeating them over and over again won't make them magically become real.

And Obama is not my guru or anything like that. I'm voting for him mostly because Neo-Nazi whacktards like you are so afraid of him.


Actually I am not trying to change any persons mind - especially people locked-in to their perceptions. Trying to alter those is just head hanging and its pointless. No claims have been shot down because only a real certificate would do that and its not delivered yet.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Did you ever wonder why there are conservative posters here like Fern who people respect and listen to, and then there are others like yourself that are the object of endless ridicule? Did you even think for a moment that maybe there is something wrong with you?

No. I tend to be more informed on some issues the MSM/Academia scams everyone on so I draw more ire. It's just part of the day - helping prop up civilization one post at a time.

Funny thing - I just saw the new Time magazine with Mark Twain on the cover. Last week the cover story was about the "real" meaning of patriotism (haha as if they knew). Lo and behold, that week Obama gives a speech about patriotism and he uses Mark Twain as an example. Now we get Mark Twain on the cover and the article tries to compare Obama to Twain. Man the media so totally in the bag for this "never-had-a-real-job" Marxist community organiser, and marches so in-step with his campaign its pathetic. I bet they all have slumber parties with each other. No wonder nobody is buying print anymore.

Wait a minute, you are arguing that people are making fun of your posts because you know TOO MUCH?

Ahahahahahahhaaa. You can't be a real person.


Reality is easy to grasp when you don't alter it to fit ego notions, protect guilts etc. A lot of posters here dont find their political views as much as their political views find them -because they are predisposed to certain rationalizations etc. These people can think something is true just because they think it is. As for being made fun of thats absolutely a good sign so keep those snotty nothings a coming.

HAHAHAHA!! Considering the source, this is the most ironically hilarious thing I've read in weeks. :laugh:

And uh.... BTW, you are aware that Twain had radical political views, right? You're upset that that 'Marxist' Obama is being compared to that great American icon Mark Twain, when Twain was a Marxist!
This is the biggest reason why people laugh at you, because you imagine you have all the answers when in fact you are incredibly ill-informed and ridiculously out-of-touch with reality.
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.

you have no proof to back up your "reality"


You have no proof of an authentic BO certificate - that is the reality in question. A fake photo image thats obviously been doctored and has no stamp is only something the Bama-bots can ignore.
There is plenty of proof. You can't take your blinders off long enough to see reality.

That political cartoon linked earlier in this thread is you. Spot on.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.

Do you believe that by asserting that 2 + 2 = 5 over and over again that you can get the rest of us to believe it too?

Your claims have already been shot down as bogus. That is the reality. Repeating them over and over again won't make them magically become real.

And Obama is not my guru or anything like that. I'm voting for him mostly because Neo-Nazi whacktards like you are so afraid of him.


Actually I am not trying to change any persons mind - especially people locked-in to their perceptions. Trying to later those is just head hanging and its pointless. No claims have been shot down because only a real certificate would do that and its not delivered yet.

Then what about the part that the state of Hawaii confirmed the certificate to be genuine?

Oh yeah, you just ignore that because it doesn't fit your preconceived views and agenda.

Keep posting, man. Obama gets another vote every time you do.
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: OrByte
The worst thing that could happen to the OP and people like him is an Obama Presidency. I can't wait to see that happen :)

The worst thing that could happen to the US now would be to have a superficial, marxist hack from Chicago's political machine become President and then let loose all the weirdness that's lurking backsatge. If McCain gets his act together you might be waiting a long time because Kid Sunshine is a very vulnerable candidate. A blow out is not far fetched.
hehehe McCain has had 70+ years to try and get his act together, and since 2000 he has undergone an "extreme makeover" to look more like GWB, which won't help him in a national popularity contest that's for sure, but it did help him get this far. Face it, your GOP doesn't have what it takes to get over the GWB nightmare that our country needs to wake up from, and for that you have no one to blame but yourself and other people like you...people who would rather vote against the "Gay agenda" then vote about issues that ACTUALLY matter. GWB and his cronies used you.

Somehow I think that even if Obama wins you will never see or understand, because reality eludes you.

Maybe for your sake we can start a thread for you after Obama's victory that states that McCain won, "in a landslide"...it might help you cope with matters....

I don't belong to the GOP. Obama is also trying to look more like GWB. Voting against someone who wants to teach masturbation and homosexuality to 5 yr olds is not hard to vote against. Its the only decent thing to a normal person.

 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.

Do you believe that by asserting that 2 + 2 = 5 over and over again that you can get the rest of us to believe it too?

Your claims have already been shot down as bogus. That is the reality. Repeating them over and over again won't make them magically become real.

And Obama is not my guru or anything like that. I'm voting for him mostly because Neo-Nazi whacktards like you are so afraid of him.


Actually I am not trying to change any persons mind - especially people locked-in to their perceptions. Trying to later those is just head hanging and its pointless. No claims have been shot down because only a real certificate would do that and its not delivered yet.

Then what about the part that the state of Hawaii confirmed the certificate to be genuine?

Oh yeah, you just ignore that because it doesn't fit your preconceived views and agenda.

Keep posting, man. Obama gets another vote every time you do.

They confirmed the template looked like that of a real birth certificate from Hawaii. They did not confirm the image was actually BO's though and they added they do not consider photo images as valid proofs and they do not accept or issue any. A fake ID could use a real form and still be fake.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
They confirmed the template looked like that of a real birth certificate from Hawaii. They did not confirm the image was actually BO's though and they added they do not consider photo images as valid proofs and they do not accept or issue any. A fake ID could use a real form and still be fake.

You're aware that the burden of proof falls on the accuser to prove his accusations, right?

BTW, what are your views about 9/11? ;)
 

OrByte

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: OrByte
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: OrByte
The worst thing that could happen to the OP and people like him is an Obama Presidency. I can't wait to see that happen :)

The worst thing that could happen to the US now would be to have a superficial, marxist hack from Chicago's political machine become President and then let loose all the weirdness that's lurking backsatge. If McCain gets his act together you might be waiting a long time because Kid Sunshine is a very vulnerable candidate. A blow out is not far fetched.
hehehe McCain has had 70+ years to try and get his act together, and since 2000 he has undergone an "extreme makeover" to look more like GWB, which won't help him in a national popularity contest that's for sure, but it did help him get this far. Face it, your GOP doesn't have what it takes to get over the GWB nightmare that our country needs to wake up from, and for that you have no one to blame but yourself and other people like you...people who would rather vote against the "Gay agenda" then vote about issues that ACTUALLY matter. GWB and his cronies used you.

Somehow I think that even if Obama wins you will never see or understand, because reality eludes you.

Maybe for your sake we can start a thread for you after Obama's victory that states that McCain won, "in a landslide"...it might help you cope with matters....

I don't belong to the GOP. Obama is also trying to look more like GWB. Voting against someone who wants to teach masturbation and homosexuality to 5 yr olds is not hard to vote against. Its the only decent thing to a normal person.
as quick as you are to disassociate yourself with the GOP I am sure members of the GOP would be just as quick to disassociate themselves from you. :)
 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy

Did you ever wonder why there are conservative posters here like Fern who people respect and listen to, and then there are others like yourself that are the object of endless ridicule? Did you even think for a moment that maybe there is something wrong with you?

No. I tend to be more informed on some issues the MSM/Academia scams everyone on so I draw more ire. It's just part of the day - helping prop up civilization one post at a time.

Funny thing - I just saw the new Time magazine with Mark Twain on the cover. Last week the cover story was about the "real" meaning of patriotism (haha as if they knew). Lo and behold, that week Obama gives a speech about patriotism and he uses Mark Twain as an example. Now we get Mark Twain on the cover and the article tries to compare Obama to Twain. Man the media so totally in the bag for this "never-had-a-real-job" Marxist community organiser, and marches so in-step with his campaign its pathetic. I bet they all have slumber parties with each other. No wonder nobody is buying print anymore.

Wait a minute, you are arguing that people are making fun of your posts because you know TOO MUCH?

Ahahahahahahhaaa. You can't be a real person.


Reality is easy to grasp when you don't alter it to fit ego notions, protect guilts etc. A lot of posters here dont find their political views as much as their political views find them -because they are predisposed to certain rationalizations etc. These people can think something is true just because they think it is. As for being made fun of thats absolutely a good sign so keep those snotty nothings a coming.

HAHAHAHA!! Considering the source, this is the most ironically hilarious thing I've read in weeks. :laugh:

And uh.... BTW, you are aware that Twain had radical political views, right? You're upset that that 'Marxist' Obama is being compared to that great American icon Mark Twain, when Twain was a Marxist!
This is the biggest reason why people laugh at you, because you imagine you have all the answers when in fact you are incredibly ill-informed and ridiculously out-of-touch with reality.

Twain is an icon for his writing career and not his political ro buisiness career. Obama has done nothing special in any sphere aside from knocking off a hag to become Dem candidate. Jesus was also a radical (reason they killed him off) and is often said to be a Marxist in spirit (hence the lib theology spin-offs). Of course thats a misinterpretation but even if Twain and Jesus were Marxists they wouldn't be seeking to warp little kids minds like Obama does (to please his Hollyweird backers like Geffen)
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Reality is easy to grasp when you don't alter it to fit ego notions, protect guilts etc. A lot of posters here dont find their political views as much as their political views find them -because they are predisposed to certain rationalizations etc. These people can think something is true just because they think it is. As for being made fun of thats absolutely a good sign so keep those snotty nothings a coming.

HAHAHAHA!! Considering the source, this is the most ironically hilarious thing I've read in weeks. :laugh:

And uh.... BTW, you are aware that Twain had radical political views, right? You're upset that that 'Marxist' Obama is being compared to that great American icon Mark Twain, when Twain was a Marxist!
This is the biggest reason why people laugh at you, because you imagine you have all the answers when in fact you are incredibly ill-informed and ridiculously out-of-touch with reality.

Twain is an icon for his writing career and not his political ro buisiness career. Obama has done nothing special in any sphere aside from knocking off a hag to become Dem candidate. Jesus was also a radical (reason they killed him off) and is often said to be a Marxist in spirit (hence the lib theology spin-offs). Of course thats a misinterpretation but even if Twain and Jesus were Marxists they wouldn't be seeking to warp little kids minds like Obama does (to please his Hollyweird backers like Geffen)

Dude, stop, your spin is making me dizzy. :laugh:
 

Robor

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
I don't belong to the GOP. Obama is also trying to look more like GWB. Voting against someone who wants to teach masturbation and homosexuality to 5 yr olds is not hard to vote against. Its the only decent thing to a normal person.

Finally. How did you manage to hold it in so long!?

 

Butterbean

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Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
They confirmed the template looked like that of a real birth certificate from Hawaii. They did not confirm the image was actually BO's though and they added they do not consider photo images as valid proofs and they do not accept or issue any. A fake ID could use a real form and still be fake.

You're aware that the burden of proof falls on the accuser to prove his accusations, right?

BTW, what are your views about 9/11? ;)


There is a burden of proof for people running for office. In McCain's case there were thorough investigations and the Senate confirmed his citizenship and viability as a candidate. With Obama we only have shadows and odd photos the media and Obama campaign said are real - while still not ging real hard copy documents. Of course he may well have these. But the sloppy and creepy handling of the Daily Kos thing dos not speak well for Obama.
 

Vic

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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
They confirmed the template looked like that of a real birth certificate from Hawaii. They did not confirm the image was actually BO's though and they added they do not consider photo images as valid proofs and they do not accept or issue any. A fake ID could use a real form and still be fake.

You're aware that the burden of proof falls on the accuser to prove his accusations, right?

BTW, what are your views about 9/11? ;)

There is a burden of proof for people running for office. In McCain's case there were thorough investigations and the Senate confirmed his citizenship and viability as a candidate. With Obama we only have shadows and odd photos the media and Obama campaign said are real - while still not ging real hard copy documents. Of course he may well have these. But the sloppy and creepy handling of the Daily Kos thing dos not speak well for Obama.

And now you're being dishonest again. McCain's case was tested because it was the first of its kind. Obama's is not because the only challenges to it are coming from non-credible sources.

And really, I think you should get a clue that attacking one biased source, like Daily Kos, with an extremist source from the other side, like Israel Insider, just makes you look like an idiot.
 

jman19

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Harvey
Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Harvey
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist...

"Self-described," as in no credibility, published on "Israel Insider," a "self-described" information source.

Credibility of the McKinnon, the site, and you = -100. :thumbsdown:

Maybe in time they can someday have the credibility of the esteemed and highly regarded.... Harvey.

:laugh:

I'll take my credibility over that of some "self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist," or some ranting, paranoid pro-Isreal site or YOU, any time, any day. :laugh:

OH SNAP! Thats some funny shit Harvey!

Jesus Christ, stop acting like a baby every time someone says something you don't agree with. Although it is funny watching you get bent out of shape time and time again, maybe you should step away from this forum for a while if you can't handle different opinions.