Red Dawn
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Originally posted by: Butterbean
Well you Ultra Right Wing Conspiracy Nutcase Whackjobs are all over it, too bad nobody takes you seriously.
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Well you Ultra Right Wing Conspiracy Nutcase Whackjobs are all over it, too bad nobody takes you seriously.
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing this important issue to the forefront. I feel the need to change my vote now. In fact, I'm thinking of starting a campaign for another candidate, one who's fine character has been overlooked until now.
Butterbean for president - stands for a sensible authoritative and repressive gov't
along with:
Corbett - ministry of religion
CADsortaGUY - ministry of disinformation
ProfJohn - ministry of disinformation (there'll be a lot work to do)
Honestly your no different than those who defend NAMBLA, you're both on the lunatic fringe.Originally posted by: Butterbean
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Its funny that all the lib posters here are always singling out and ridiculing (the few) non lib posters here but you don't see vice versa. If actual studies, scholarly articles or news items get linked the "hater" accusations come up and some of the same guys who defend NAMBLA want people who disagree with their views banned. This isnt a bad forum by any means but it is a little broken in some regards.
Originally posted by: Harvey
Issues about Romney and Huckabee were news fodder months before Jeramiah Wright popped into public view in March, 2008.
Originally posted by: Red Dawn
Honestly your no different than those who defend NAMBLA, you're both on the lunatic fringe.Originally posted by: Butterbean
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Its funny that all the lib posters here are always singling out and ridiculing (the few) non lib posters here but you don't see vice versa. If actual studies, scholarly articles or news items get linked the "hater" accusations come up and some of the same guys who defend NAMBLA want people who disagree with their views banned. This isnt a bad forum by any means but it is a little broken in some regards.
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Its funny that all the lib posters here are always singling out and ridiculing (the few) non lib posters here but you don't see vice versa. If actual studies, scholarly articles or news items get linked the "hater" accusations come up and some of the same guys who defend NAMBLA want people who disagree with their views banned. This isnt a bad forum by any means but it is a little broken in some regards.
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Butterbean's posts always remind me of this-
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/...viewbydate.asp?id=1777
It's one of those create your own alternate reality kind of things...
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Its funny that all the lib posters here are always singling out and ridiculing (the few) non lib posters here but you don't see vice versa. If actual studies, scholarly articles or news items get linked the "hater" accusations come up and some of the same guys who defend NAMBLA want people who disagree with their views banned. This isnt a bad forum by any means but it is a little broken in some regards.
Did you ever wonder why there are conservative posters here like Fern who people respect and listen to, and then there are others like yourself that are the object of endless ridicule? Did you even think for a moment that maybe there is something wrong with you?
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Did you ever wonder why there are conservative posters here like Fern who people respect and listen to, and then there are others like yourself that are the object of endless ridicule? Did you even think for a moment that maybe there is something wrong with you?
No. I tend to be more informed on some issues the MSM/Academia scams everyone on so I draw more ire. It's just part of the day - helping prop up civilization one post at a time.
Funny thing - I just saw the new Time magazine with Mark Twain on the cover. Last week the cover story was about the "real" meaning of patriotism (haha as if they knew). Lo and behold, that week Obama gives a speech about patriotism and he uses Mark Twain as an example. Now we get Mark Twain on the cover and the article tries to compare Obama to Twain. Man the media so totally in the bag for this "never-had-a-real-job" Marxist community organiser, and marches so in-step with his campaign its pathetic. I bet they all have slumber parties with each other. No wonder nobody is buying print anymore.
All hail Butterbean. He not only knows what's wrong with this country (and supposedly how to fix it) but with this forum also. I bow to you!Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: seemingly random
Thank you, thank you, thank you for bringing this important issue to the forefront. I feel the need to change my vote now. In fact, I'm thinking of starting a campaign for another candidate, one who's fine character has been overlooked until now.
Butterbean for president - stands for a sensible authoritative and repressive gov't
along with:
Corbett - ministry of religion
CADsortaGUY - ministry of disinformation
ProfJohn - ministry of disinformation (there'll be a lot work to do)
Its funny that all the lib posters here are always singling out and ridiculing (the few) non lib posters here but you don't see vice versa. If actual studies, scholarly articles or news items get linked the "hater" accusations come up and some of the same guys who defend NAMBLA want people who disagree with their views banned. This isnt a bad forum by any means but it is a little broken in some regards.
Barack Obama may be on a world tour surrounded by a fawning media, but Sunday an expert in electronic document forensics released a detailed report on the purported birth certificate -- actually a "Certification of Live Birth" or COLB -- claimed as genuine by his campaign. The expert concludes with 100% certainty that it is a crudely forged fake: "a horribly forgery," according to the analysis published on the popular right-wing Atlas Shrugs blog.
The purported birth certificate was published by the left wing Daily Kos blog on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president. Israel Insider has followed the story in five previous articles (the previous one here) and uncovered evidence, most recently, of admitted forgery among Daily Kos bloggers, tolerance of electronic forgeries on the blog site, as well as efforts by a blog administrator to conceal the admission of forgery.
The latest examinaton of the purported documents is by far the most detailed and technically sophisticated to date.
Atlas Shrugs publisher Pamela Geller reports that the expert analyst, who goes by the screen name "Techdude", is "an active member of the Association of Certified Fraud Examiners, American College of Forensic Examiners, The International Society of Forensic Computer Examiners, International Information Systems Forensics Association -- the list goes on. He also a board certified as a forensic computer examiner, a certificated legal investigator, and a licensed private investigator. He has been performing computer-based forensic investigations since 1993 (although back then it did not even have a formal name yet) and he has performed countless investigations since then."
Perhaps the outspoken Israeli press corps will be able to do what their fawning American counterparts have failed to do so far. Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions -- however unpolitically correct -- about his apparently forged birth certificate and what that means for his citizenship status and Constitutional fitness to be the next leader of the free world.
The pseudonym was apparently inadequate to prevent Techdude's identity from being exposed. He reports that last week one or more persons "decided to track me down and vandalize my car and hang a dead mutilated rabbit from my front door in a lame attempt to intimidate me from proceeding with releasing any details of my analysis. They did succeed in delaying the report by a few days but instead of deterring me they just really pissed me off. To their credit, if I had not taken a few days off from the analysis I would have missed the most damning piece of evidence -- the remnants of the previous security border."
Techdude's detailed report, which runs more than 3000 words and 20 pages with extensive magnified illustrations and comparisons, reaches the following conclusion about the documented that was first published on the Daily Kos extreme left-wing blog and subsequently publicly endorsed by the Obama campaign, both in statements by official spokesmen, and featured on its "Fight the Smears" website. Here are some of conclusions:
"The (Daily) KOS image security border pattern does not match any known specimen from any known year. It does not match the pre-2006 nor does it match the post-2006 certificate patterns. The placement of the text in all of the pre-2006 and post-2006 certificates are almost identical pixel location matches while the image?s text placement does not match any known specimen from any known year. The shape and kerning of the fonts used in the 2006 through 2008 certificates are identical while the shape and kerning of the fonts used in the image does not match any known specimen. The KOS image shows clear signs of tampering such as the mismatch in RGB and error levels, visible indications of the previous location of the erased security border, easily detectable patterns of repeating flaws around the new security border, EXIF data that says the image was last saved with Photoshop CS3 for Macintosh, and finally a technician from Hawaii who confirms it just looks wrong."
The evidence, he says, allows for two possible scenarios by which the document was fabricated:
"There are two obvious scenarios used to create the image that can be ascertained from evidence. Either a real COLB was scanned into Photoshop and digitally edited or a real COLB was first scanned to obtain the graphic layout then blanked by soaking the document in solvent to remove the toner. After rescanning the blank page to a separate image the graphics from the previously obtained scan could then be easily applied to the blank scan after some editing and rebuilding. It would also explain why date stamp bleeds through the paper and the various bits of toner located around the image as well as the remnants of the previous location of a security border."
The purported birth certificate was published by the Daily Kos on June 12 in response to unconfirmed reports that Obama was not in fact born in the United States (Canada and Kenya were suggested as the possible locations of his actual birth). Since he would in that case not be a natural born US citizen (his mother was not present in the US sufficiently long as an adult to pass American citizenship on to him automatically), he would not be eligible to be president.
After more than a month of controversy and demands that the Obama campaign produce a paper birth certificate for analysis, this damning new evidence raises the stakes for the democratic party and its front-runner.
Will Obama and his people continue to stonewall in the facing of the mounting evidence of forgery, and provide paper proof of an authentic, original birth certificate or even a genuine secondary Certificate of Live Birth? And will the mass media and mainstream pundits -- which so far have hesitated to touch the hot potato -- finally address the loaded issue of his possible unfitness to meet the basic Constitutional requirement for a President?
Perhaps the outspoken Israeli press corps will be able to do what their fawning American counterparts have failed to do so far. Obama's visit this week to Israel will be an opportunity to begin asking the tough questions -- however unpolitically correct -- about his apparently forged birth certificate and what that means for his citizenship status and Constitutional fitness to be the next leader of the free world.
Originally posted by: Xavier434
You know...I really do not care where this man or any other man was born. All I care about is what I believe he will do when he becomes the President of the United States. The clock is ticking BB.
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Xavier434
You know...I really do not care where this man or any other man was born. All I care about is what I believe he will do when he becomes the President of the United States. The clock is ticking BB.
Thankfully the CONSTITUTION DOES CARE...
But wait you probably don't care about that either!
Originally posted by: Jhhnn
Butterbean's posts always remind me of this-
http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/...viewbydate.asp?id=1777
It's one of those create your own alternate reality kind of things...
Originally posted by: GoPackGo
Originally posted by: Xavier434
You know...I really do not care where this man or any other man was born. All I care about is what I believe he will do when he becomes the President of the United States. The clock is ticking BB.
Thankfully the CONSTITUTION DOES CARE...
But wait you probably don't care about that either!
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: eskimospy
Did you ever wonder why there are conservative posters here like Fern who people respect and listen to, and then there are others like yourself that are the object of endless ridicule? Did you even think for a moment that maybe there is something wrong with you?
No. I tend to be more informed on some issues the MSM/Academia scams everyone on so I draw more ire. It's just part of the day - helping prop up civilization one post at a time.
Funny thing - I just saw the new Time magazine with Mark Twain on the cover. Last week the cover story was about the "real" meaning of patriotism (haha as if they knew). Lo and behold, that week Obama gives a speech about patriotism and he uses Mark Twain as an example. Now we get Mark Twain on the cover and the article tries to compare Obama to Twain. Man the media so totally in the bag for this "never-had-a-real-job" Marxist community organiser, and marches so in-step with his campaign its pathetic. I bet they all have slumber parties with each other. No wonder nobody is buying print anymore.
Wait a minute, you are arguing that people are making fun of your posts because you know TOO MUCH?
Ahahahahahahhaaa. You can't be a real person.
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Try to work with the medication Vicky. The reality is that your guru approved as genuine a shoddy fake ID on his "truth" site. The media also circulated the bogus image and now wont touch it. People are alert to the fact the media is totally in the bag for BO and its backfiring.
