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Daily Kos And Obama Site Using Forged Birth Certificate?

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Originally posted by: nick1985
Originally posted by: Harvey
Jay McKinnon, a self-described Department of Homeland Security-trained document specialist...

"Self-described," as in no credibility, published on "Israel Insider," a "self-described" information source.

Credibility of the McKinnon, the site, and you = -100. :thumbsdown:

Maybe in time they can someday have the credibility of the esteemed and highly regarded.... Harvey.

:laugh:

Interesting, I didn't know Harvey was a member of a media publication stretching the truth.
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
So, this is the real one...?
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

It looks completely legitimate. I just pulled up my own from my records, in fact, and the only differences are that my state of birth doesn't include the hour of birth and does include the parents' places of birth.
Otherwise, formating and style are more or less the same, and on Obama's there you can see how the embossing is showing through from the other side.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
So, this is the real one...?
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

It looks completely legitimate. I just pulled up my own from my records, in fact, and the only differences are that my state of birth doesn't include the hour of birth and does include the parents' places of birth.
Otherwise, formating and style are more or less the same, and on Obama's there you can see how the embossing is showing through from the other side.

Here is the one that was given to FactCheck from Obama's campaign... (larger resolution)
http://factcheckcms.bootnetwor...irth%20Certificate.jpg

Is it odd that there is no hand or stamped signature from an official? Or do some states just not do this, at least at the time he was born?
 
Originally posted by: bamacre
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: bamacre
So, this is the real one...?
http://www.barackobama.com/images/fts/BO_birthcert.jpg

It looks completely legitimate. I just pulled up my own from my records, in fact, and the only differences are that my state of birth doesn't include the hour of birth and does include the parents' places of birth.
Otherwise, formating and style are more or less the same, and on Obama's there you can see how the embossing is showing through from the other side.

Here is the one that was given to FactCheck from Obama's campaign... (larger resolution)
http://factcheckcms.bootnetwor...irth%20Certificate.jpg

Is it odd that there is no hand or stamped signature from an official? Or do some states just not do this, at least at the time he was born?

It's not odd. This is a state archive copy, one you could get by going to the appropriate county office and showing ID and paying the fee. Not the fancy one with the flourishes and footprints that some hospitals give out at birth.
 
Originally posted by: Butterbean
I don't belong to the GOP. Obama is also trying to look more like GWB. Voting against someone who wants to teach masturbation and homosexuality to 5 yr olds is not hard to vote against. Its the only decent thing to a normal person.
Do you really believe this? Really? Why?

Do you really think he would have gotten this far along in the election process if there was a shred of truth to this?

You need to talk to somebody - one on one - and soon.
 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A real certificate would have stamp that alters the paper. Obama's does not have a stamp and we are told "it's on the back" as if the stamp wouldn't show when it would. Here is a copy of a real document from Hawaii


http://img353.imageshack.us/im...ecostapaetbirthuo9.jpg

So back to 9/11, do you believe that there were planes that hit the WTC or was that just mass hypnosis?

The gays directly caused 9/11 among other disasters which include: Peal Harbor, the Cretaceous?Tertiary extinction, bell bottom pants, and the Indian Ocean Earthquake.

 
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A real certificate would have stamp that alters the paper. Obama's does not have a stamp and we are told "it's on the back" as if the stamp wouldn't show when it would. Here is a copy of a real document from Hawaii


http://img353.imageshack.us/im...ecostapaetbirthuo9.jpg

So back to 9/11, do you believe that there were planes that hit the WTC or was that just mass hypnosis?


Of course planes hit. But having been long aware of the dismal security at airports, and the
lack of attention being paid to Islamic terrorsism, my first thoughts seeing 9-11 were not of suprise. The "big" news stories at the time were the missing white girl of the week (Chandra Levy) and the evil Boy Scouts not accepting open you know whats.
 
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A real certificate would have stamp that alters the paper. Obama's does not have a stamp and we are told "it's on the back" as if the stamp wouldn't show when it would. Here is a copy of a real document from Hawaii


http://img353.imageshack.us/im...ecostapaetbirthuo9.jpg

So back to 9/11, do you believe that there were planes that hit the WTC or was that just mass hypnosis?

The gays directly caused 9/11 among other disasters which include: Peal Harbor, the Cretaceous?Tertiary extinction, bell bottom pants, and the Indian Ocean Earthquake.

Keep in mind Al Qaeda tapes often cite homosexuality as a good reason to despise the West. All those "Look at me! Look at Me!!" homosexual parades through Jerusalem dont help matters either. Its too bad the militant homosexual groups like ACLU are more interested in promoting "rights" of the people that want to kill homosexuals instead of fighting them. Homosexual mindset is suicidal that way.

 
Originally posted by: Butterbean

Its too bad the militant homosexual groups like ACLU are more interested in promoting "rights" of the people that want to kill homosexuals instead of fighting them. Homosexual mindset is suicidal that way.

what the fuck
 
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A real certificate would have stamp that alters the paper. Obama's does not have a stamp and we are told "it's on the back" as if the stamp wouldn't show when it would. Here is a copy of a real document from Hawaii


http://img353.imageshack.us/im...ecostapaetbirthuo9.jpg

So back to 9/11, do you believe that there were planes that hit the WTC or was that just mass hypnosis?

The gays directly caused 9/11 among other disasters which include: Peal Harbor, the Cretaceous?Tertiary extinction, bell bottom pants, and the Indian Ocean Earthquake.

Keep in mind Al Qaeda tapes often cite homosexuality as a good reason to despise the West. All those "Look at me! Look at Me!!" homosexual parades through Jerusalem dont help matters either. Its too bad the militant homosexual groups like ACLU are more interested in promoting "rights" of the people that want to kill homosexuals instead of fighting them. Homosexual mindset is suicidal that way.

LOL, your posts just keep on getting better and better. Keep them up; they're great entertainment.

Let's appease the terrorists by restricting gay rights.
 
Originally posted by: rockyct

LOL, your posts just keep on getting better and better. Keep them up; they're great entertainment.

Let's appease the terrorists by restricting gay rights.

Yeah, at first he annoyed me. Then he made me mad. Now I can't stop laughing. Butterbean is the best thing to happen to these boards in a long time. There's no way I could be that funny even if I were trying.
 
Originally posted by: Butterbuns
... Voting against someone who wants to teach masturbation and homosexuality to 5 yr olds is not hard to vote against...
Is that the secret mission for his new private "Security Force"?
 

Originally posted by: Butterbean

Its too bad the militant homosexual groups like ACLU are more interested in promoting "rights" of the people that want to kill homosexuals instead of fighting them. Homosexual mindset is suicidal that way.

Are you a member of the Westboro Baptist Church, by any chance?

 
Originally posted by: Butterbean
Originally posted by: K1052
Originally posted by: Vic
Originally posted by: Butterbean
A real certificate would have stamp that alters the paper. Obama's does not have a stamp and we are told "it's on the back" as if the stamp wouldn't show when it would. Here is a copy of a real document from Hawaii


http://img353.imageshack.us/im...ecostapaetbirthuo9.jpg

So back to 9/11, do you believe that there were planes that hit the WTC or was that just mass hypnosis?

The gays directly caused 9/11 among other disasters which include: Peal Harbor, the Cretaceous?Tertiary extinction, bell bottom pants, and the Indian Ocean Earthquake.

Keep in mind Al Qaeda tapes often cite homosexuality as a good reason to despise the West. All those "Look at me! Look at Me!!" homosexual parades through Jerusalem dont help matters either. Its too bad the militant homosexual groups like ACLU are more interested in promoting "rights" of the people that want to kill homosexuals instead of fighting them. Homosexual mindset is suicidal that way.

1. you want us to listen to Al Quaeda for advice... cuckoo
2. the parades were stopped her cuckoo
3. ACLU are precocupied with defending all rights even for the ones you seem to take Al Quaedas advice for not having rights.

You have to be the stupidest poster in this forum, as a fundamentalist christian i don't get why you can't just go with that, why bring in Al Quaedas support for your ridiculous standpoints, do you honestly think that will help your case?

you are insane. clearly insane.
 
Originally posted by: mxrider

Originally posted by: Butterbean

Its too bad the militant homosexual groups like ACLU are more interested in promoting "rights" of the people that want to kill homosexuals instead of fighting them. Homosexual mindset is suicidal that way.

Are you a member of the Westboro Baptist Church, by any chance?

actually that crossed my mind too.
 
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