Dad kills neighbor accused of molesting girl

[Tom]

I have a second question..

The Mother took the time to go to a relative's house, and at some later time called the husband to tell him about the "abuse".

Is there some logical explanation for why during all that time, she never called the police ?

Would any parent who thought there daughter was molested, let hours go by without calling the police, and the fire department/ emergency squad ?


Another question, someone "presumed" the mother and children went to a relatives for their safety. Isn't it also possible they left the home so they would not be there when the bloodied husband returned after the killing ?

If it's true this guy is a lawyer, is it possible some sort of perfect crime was attempted here ? With a possible motive being dissatisfaction about what the police did about Mr James lack of attire, while inside his own house ?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: Tom
I have a second question..

The Mother took the time to go to a relative's house, and at some later time called the husband to tell him about the "abuse".

Is there some logical explanation for why during all that time, she never called the police ?

Would any parent who thought there daughter was molested, let hours go by without calling the police, and the fire department/ emergency squad ?


Another question, someone "presumed" the mother and children went to a relatives for their safety. Isn't it also possible they left the home so they would not be there when the bloodied husband returned after the killing ?

If it's true this guy is a lawyer, is it possible some sort of perfect crime was attempted here ? With a possible motive being dissatisfaction about what the police did about Mr James lack of attire, while inside his own house ?

sheesh thats worse. this was not spure of a minute type thing. the mother knew a few hours of time. she could have called the cops.

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim
i dont care what you all say but if I come home from a long day at work and my wife tells me the neighbor touched my little kid I would flip my sh1t and chop his sack off and make him choke to death on it. anyone who wouldnt do the same is not fit to have a family and kids.

damn right i would flip out. i would be on the phone calling the police. then asking my wife WTF she waited until i got home to let me know and why the fvck she did NOT CALL THEM HERSELF.

I would not go kill the man on the word of a 2 year old. that would nto happen. even if there was more proof i would not do it. My daughter needs a father in her life. not one sitting in jail convicted of murder.

Originally posted by: Specop 007

Originally posted by: aidanjm
Thios guy needs to be put away. For the rest of his life. You do not take the law into your own hands. A laywer especially should know that. Pity his daughter will grow up without a daddy.

Even though the law often times fails?
Child molestors generally get off pretty easy, and how many times do we here of repeat offenses? The law is failing.

Way i see it, one less child molestor our tax dollars have to support in prison for a few years, only to have him get out and do it again.

what child molestor? there was NO PROOF. the guy was not charged NOTHING.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Tom
I have a second question..

The Mother took the time to go to a relative's house, and at some later time called the husband to tell him about the "abuse".

Is there some logical explanation for why during all that time, she never called the police ?

Would any parent who thought there daughter was molested, let hours go by without calling the police, and the fire department/ emergency squad ?


Another question, someone "presumed" the mother and children went to a relatives for their safety. Isn't it also possible they left the home so they would not be there when the bloodied husband returned after the killing ?

If it's true this guy is a lawyer, is it possible some sort of perfect crime was attempted here ? With a possible motive being dissatisfaction about what the police did about Mr James lack of attire, while inside his own house ?

re-read that. it just sounds absurd.

 

[Vegitto]

Originally posted by: randay
I'd do the same, as long as I made completely sure that it had happened.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Vegitto

Originally posted by: randay
I'd do the same, as long as I made completely sure that it had happened.

ok so your going to sit and debate and ponder and reason and use all your logic to find an alternate solution to why your child who has no frame of reference for sexual misconduct is mysteriously speaking on it with condemning detail. good for you man I couldn't live with myself if I did nothing.

 

[LanceM]

If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LanceM
If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

you would be cool as a cucumber on the phone when your wife his telling you how the neighbor just violated your little girl. right. :roll: you are just keyboard jockeying right now.

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: eits
hopefully, he gets off with a temporary insanity plea

So... you're opposed to the death penalty when carried out by the rule of law, but in favor of it when done by vigilante justice?

:roll:

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
Poor people can't post 1 million dollars bail.

Sure they can. The bail bondsman only requires 10% ($100k), and he'll take that in the form of a lien against anyone's property who is willing to sign for it (read: parents/relatives/etc).

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

you would be cool as a cucumber on the phone when your wife his telling you how the neighbor just violated your little girl. right. :roll: you are just keyboard jockeying right now.

Someone tells you your 2 year old daughter has been molested.

at what point would it occur to you to call a doctor or ems to see if she needs medical care ?

I assume sometime after the disemboweling ?

 

[Vic]

Originally posted by: Kyanzes
"Either he was partly clothed or revealed parts of his anatomy that were inappropriate,"

How genteel.

Don't peeping tom into other people's windows then.

 

[ViviTheMage]

who paid that 1 mil to get him out!

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

you would be cool as a cucumber on the phone when your wife his telling you how the neighbor just violated your little girl. right. :roll: you are just keyboard jockeying right now.

Someone tells you your 2 year old daughter has been molested.

at what point would it occur to you to call a doctor or ems to see if she needs medical care ?

I assume sometime after the disemboweling ?

please stay on topic we are talking about this scenario in this article in which case the wife had been the first one to discover the incident and multiple hours had past and the conversation probably included. she is ok.

 

[LanceM]

Who are you to assume that I would pull the same actions as this father? You know nothing about me or the experiences I have had.

I can tell you this: Rage is most certainly NOT my first instinct.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: DonVito

Originally posted by: Nebor

You're right, having gone to those schools, he probably wouldn't be making much money. His firm probably bailed him out.

As far as which law school to select, you're right. But when you get into the top 5, is better really that much better? A friend of mine back in school got into HLS and Columbia, but Columbia offered him a full ride with stipend. He still chose HLS, costing his dad nearly $200k all said.

No offense, but you appear to know essentially nothing at all about law schools or being an attorney, so I suggest you refrain from speculating about them. It really annoys me when people with no firsthand knowledge spout off like that.

Fordham is a very good school (it's currently ranked 32nd). A graduate in the top 10% of his class from Fordham can have his pick of any number of excellent, high-paying jobs. My point, earlier in the thread, was that most young lawyers don't make a lot of money, regardless of their school. There's nothing wrong with Fordham.

Your friend made a very different choice than I would have, and it surprises me his father was willing to subsidize it. Harvard certainly has a certain cache (my father is a Harvard alum, and people still give him a certain deference as a result, although he graduated 43 years ago), but Columbia is outstanding as well. I find it odd that anyone whose father could afford to pay for Harvard could get a full ride at Columbia, which makes me a little wary of believing your story, however. Pretty much everyone at Ivy League schools gets some form of financial aid, but a full ride is very unusual where you or your family have the ability to pay.

I know all there is to know about law schools and being an attorney, obviously.

This happened nearly 10 years ago, when schools gave scholarships to people who earned them, rather than just people who were poor. I'm aware that merit-based scholarships at most lawschools are virtually non-existant today.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LanceM
Who are you to assume that I would pull the same actions as this father? You know nothing about me or the experiences I have had.

I can tell you this: Rage is most certainly NOT my first instinct.

thats cool well i applaud your logic and reason. just a question for you tho at what point while watching an intruder in your house pillage and rape your family do you throw logic and reason out the window and do something about it?

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

you would be cool as a cucumber on the phone when your wife his telling you how the neighbor just violated your little girl. right. :roll: you are just keyboard jockeying right now.

Someone tells you your 2 year old daughter has been molested.

at what point would it occur to you to call a doctor or ems to see if she needs medical care ?

I assume sometime after the disemboweling ?

please stay on topic we are talking about this scenario in this article in which case the wife had been the first one to discover the incident and multiple hours had past and the conversation probably included. she is ok.

I am trying to stay on topic, but you keep introducing all kinds of "facts" that we don't know.

One actual fact we know, if the article is accurate, is nobody reported the molestation to the police.

and I assume if an EMS had been notified the EMS would have notified the police.

Or if a doctor had been notified then the doctor would have notified police.

But the police were never notified, by anyone.

So the question is, would any parent who even had an inkling that their daughter was molested, not seek medical care for their child ?

Doesn't that strike you as odd ?

 

[fbrdphreak]

Originally posted by: waggy
i can not blame the guy. but what if the guy was not guilty of the crime? the father was going off infromation from a 2 yr old child.

My thoughts exactly

 

[LanceM]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
Who are you to assume that I would pull the same actions as this father? You know nothing about me or the experiences I have had.

I can tell you this: Rage is most certainly NOT my first instinct.

thats cool well i applaud your logic and reason. just a question for you tho at what point while watching an intruder in your house pillage and rape your family do you throw logic and reason out the window and do something about it?

If this is truly a situation in which I am "watching an intruder in [my] house pillage and rape [my] family," then I would obviously take actions that are more physical than the scenario originally posted. BUT as you said earlier, we should stick to the article.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

you would be cool as a cucumber on the phone when your wife his telling you how the neighbor just violated your little girl. right. :roll: you are just keyboard jockeying right now.

Someone tells you your 2 year old daughter has been molested.

at what point would it occur to you to call a doctor or ems to see if she needs medical care ?

I assume sometime after the disemboweling ?

please stay on topic we are talking about this scenario in this article in which case the wife had been the first one to discover the incident and multiple hours had past and the conversation probably included. she is ok.

I am trying to stay on topic, but you keep introducing all kinds of "facts" that we don't know.

One actual fact we know, if the article is accurate, is nobody reported the molestation to the police.

and I assume if an EMS had been notified the EMS would have notified the police.

Or if a doctor had been notified then the doctor would have notified police.

So the question is, would any parent who even had an inkling that their daughter was molested, not seek medical care for their child ?

Doesn't that strike you as odd ?

there are varying degrees of what can be considered molestation many of which would not cause necessarily any physical trauma. so no its not that odd. for instance making a child touch an adult in an inappropriatemanner isn't going to be something an emergency room can do anything about.

 

[IceBergSLiM]

Originally posted by: LanceM

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
Who are you to assume that I would pull the same actions as this father? You know nothing about me or the experiences I have had.

I can tell you this: Rage is most certainly NOT my first instinct.

thats cool well i applaud your logic and reason. just a question for you tho at what point while watching an intruder in your house pillage and rape your family do you throw logic and reason out the window and do something about it?

If this is truly a situation in which I am "watching an intruder in [my] house pillage and rape [my] family," then I would obviously take actions that are more physical than the scenario originally posted. BUT as you said earlier, we should stick to the article.

ok wel thats fine, I wanted to see if you would at any point stnad up and do soemthing. I on the other jsut happen to have a zero tolerance policy for these things. Maybe I have anger issues.

 

[SP33Demon]

Originally posted by: Vic

Originally posted by: eits
hopefully, he gets off with a temporary insanity plea

So... you're opposed to the death penalty when carried out by the rule of law, but in favor of it when done by vigilante justice?

:roll:

Rofl :thumbsup:

 

[Tom]

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: Tom

Originally posted by: IcebergSlim

Originally posted by: LanceM
If the father really wanted to help his daughter, he would have ensured that she grew up without psychological issues. Instead, he's making sure that she's scarred for life. Congratulations.

you would be cool as a cucumber on the phone when your wife his telling you how the neighbor just violated your little girl. right. :roll: you are just keyboard jockeying right now.

Someone tells you your 2 year old daughter has been molested.

at what point would it occur to you to call a doctor or ems to see if she needs medical care ?

I assume sometime after the disemboweling ?

please stay on topic we are talking about this scenario in this article in which case the wife had been the first one to discover the incident and multiple hours had past and the conversation probably included. she is ok.

I am trying to stay on topic, but you keep introducing all kinds of "facts" that we don't know.

One actual fact we know, if the article is accurate, is nobody reported the molestation to the police.

and I assume if an EMS had been notified the EMS would have notified the police.

Or if a doctor had been notified then the doctor would have notified police.

So the question is, would any parent who even had an inkling that their daughter was molested, not seek medical care for their child ?

Doesn't that strike you as odd ?

there are varying degrees of what can be considered molestation many of which would not cause necessarily any physical trauma. so no its not that odd. for instance making a child touch an adult in an inappropriatemanner isn't going to be something an emergency room can do anything about.

Are you serious ? We are talking about a 2 year old here.

I can't imagine any real parent acting the way you describe, if there was even a possibility of molestation.

Another fact we know from the stories. The Mother was not deaf or mute, and was capable of using a telephone to report the earlier incident of Mr James being undressed in his own house.

We also know she knows how to call the police, and wasn't reluctant to do so in that earlier case.

So what reason is there for her not to call them this time, about a much more serious issue ?

 

[Playmaker]

This guy is fvcked, even if the neighbor did what the kid accused. In real life juries aren't filled with emotional hicks a la "A Time to Kill" and there will be at least one individual with a sense of realism about how a society must operate.

 

[PrinceofWands]

Justice > Law.

Always.

That being said, without concrete proof that the neighbor did it, the man's actions were unacceptable.