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moonbogg

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Crysis 3 is coded like a proper modern game!! Scales with at least 6 CPU cores.

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Shows how much potential games have if developers take the time to code beyond 2-4 cores. Vishera isn't looking bad at all. Looks like AMD's management mistimed the advancement of multi-threaded games. FX8350 beating i7 2600K is not bad at all. ^_^

The intel quads are working harder than the intel hex cores, but in any case none of those cores are sitting around doing nothing and the benchmarks show the improvements from having more cores. PC gaming is looking good and perhaps AMD users have something to celebrate here.
 

Maragark

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Your confusing price depreciation (which happens on all platforms) with brand new MSRP retail price. Guess what, for multi platform games - the price for all platforms is the same whether you buy an xbox 360 version or PC. I'm referring to brand new MSRP launch prices, not depreciated steam sale prices. Regardless of your opinion, there is no excuse for your discussion of piracy on this forum. Keep that stuff to yourself, if you don't like a price then don't buy it.

Not in the UK they're not. MSRP launch prices are typically £29.99 for the PC and £39.99 for consoles. There are a few PC game which cost £39.99 such as the last few CoD titles.
 

Maragark

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Crysis 3 is $60 everywhere. Walmart, target, GameStop, amazon...except the discount online only sites. So your information is outright false. PC games cost just as much as console games at retail.


Most other titles are $60 at release even on steam. Look at the current steam price for Skyrim $59.99. Yeah they go on sale but not everyone will notice or they want the game day one.

Not in the UK they aren't.

Crysis 3 Hunter Edition from GAME.

Xbox 360 = £42.99 = $66.37
PS3 = £42.99 = $66.37
PC = £34.99 = $54.02

Crysis 3 from Amazon

Xbox 360 = £39.99 = $61.74
PS3 = £39.99 = $61.74
PC = £31.99 = $49.41

If you guys are paying the same price for consoles game then you are getting ripped off for the reason fx stated - licence fees.
 

Maragark

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Did you even read a word? Steam right now is selling Skyrim for $60. No sale and no discount. You are trying to ignore the truth.

You link to a company outside the US that lists prices in British pounds and expect that to be the guideline that everyone looks at? Hardly ..especially from one single site.

Skyrim is on Steam right now for £19.99. No sale or discount. That's $30.86 in your monopoly money. :whiste:
 

Maragark

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Steam LOL

Who buys from Steam? Steam is the biggest rip off merchant going. A game on a physical disk costs 19.95 GBP and digital download VIA STEAM purchased from Shopto.net is 18.95 GBP including 20% VAT.

Do the math.

$24.50 in your money

http://www.shopto.net/search/?platform=&newsearch=skyrim

Pretty much everyone uses Steam. Sometimes games can be a bit more expensive than elsewhere but that's generally not the case.
 

Atreidin

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You are completely wrong on this one. Those prices were the norm. Street Fighter 2 was 74.99 MSRP on release, Chrono Trigger was 79.99$. Final Fantasy 3 on release was also 84.99$ MSRP. Every store had it for that price including Toys R Us, Babbages, Software Etc, and Electronics Boutique. The only games that ever sold for 49.99 new were either used or heavily discounted from being old, no new SNES games were that cheap, the cheapest were 59.99$ for the absolute bargain bin titles. Most were more expensive, a lot more expensive.

Those prices were the norm. I can think of dozens of additional examples. You either weren't around then or just basing your post on false assumptions. SNES games were more expensive than modern games are, easily.

Aside from this, there is no excuse for open discussion of obtaining software illegally here. It isn't allowed.


I distinctly remember paying $50 for most SNES games, maybe $60 for a few, with a few exceptions like Final Fantasy III being $80-90 depending on the store. If you were paying $75 per game you must have been living somewhere remote that airdropped in every cartridge. Either that or you had one store in town with no competition. I wouldn't be surprised if prices weren't as "standard" as they are today.
 
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Aikouka

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It wasn't uncommon for cartridge games to cost more if the ROM was larger.

EDIT:

And most of this discussion is getting fairly off-topic... not that I just helped it any though. :p
 

gevorg

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So I guess another decade for "but will it run Crysis" has been secured...
 

Skurge

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So I guess another decade for "but will it run Crysis" has been secured...

Not really. Crysis 1 was not very well coded to use modern CPUs and thats why it runs so poorly. I can imagine next gen Single GPUs easily maxing it out as long as you have an FX8 or i7.
 

MrK6

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Those pics look awesome!! Glad to see that the graphics in SP campaign is the real deal. Living up the hype now. A very good looking PC game in SP mode for sure. :)

That poster was clearly talking about MP component, not the full game. Way to take his comment out of context. Many people here rightfully ripped the MP graphics apart. They were poor. Good to see that SP is totally different.
Exactly, I can't comment on something I haven't seen. ;) Unless there's new Crysis 3 multiplayer footage hanging around somewhere that shows the opposite.

But honestly, this seems more like a double account from someone who was banned:
:whiste: Anything else? I didn't take the quote out of context, your post is false.
there's no reason a new poster who's been here less than a year would be that upset or spiteful over my comments alone.

EDIT: Bought the game anyway, I can't say I'm a fan of the art direction but I do like the detail and the graphics look great, so I wanted to check it out.
 
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Spjut

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Crysis 3 is coded like a proper modern game!! Scales with at least 6 CPU cores.


Shows how much potential games have if developers take the time to code beyond 2-4 cores. Vishera isn't looking bad at all. Looks like AMD's management mistimed the advancement of multi-threaded games. FX8350 beating i7 2600K is not bad at all. ^_^

Yeah, these graphs are awesome. Intel i7 users may also get some good use of hyperthreading for gaming.

I'm wondering if the next-gen consoles featuring eight core CPUs may have something to do with more games scaling above four cores
 

blackened23

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Not really. Crysis 1 was not very well coded to use modern CPUs and thats why it runs so poorly. I can imagine next gen Single GPUs easily maxing it out as long as you have an FX8 or i7.

How do you figure this?

I played crysis 1 at release on a C2D at 1280x1024 with excellent framerates at medium settings; not once was the framerate ever an issue in my enjoyment of the game. I'm trying to figure out in what way it was poorly coded (your claim) - do you mean that it can only use two cores or what? The mere fact that people are still playing crysis 1 and modding it is a statement to how groundbreaking it was 6 years ago.

I can't wait for the "oh but crysis 3 is coded poorly" argument which I find completely silly - the game looks fantastic and once you tweak your video settings a bit it will run great and still look fantastic. You can't blindly set everything to ultra in crysis 3 either. People really need to temper their expectations in that respect, crysis games have always been highly scale-able for future machines. Crysis 3 is no exception to this rule - this means you cannot simply max every video setting in the game unless your system is exceptionally powerful.
 
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Spjut

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I'm trying to figure out in what way it was poorly coded (your claim) - do you mean that it can only use two cores or what? The mere fact that people are still playing crysis 1 and modding it is a statement to how groundbreaking it was 6 years ago.

People are playing and modding the Elder Scrolls games as well, doesn't mean their technology were groundbreaking.

Core 2 Quads were out at the time Crysis 1 was released, but they saw no benefit over Core 2 Duos. Crytek even said a quad core CPU was recommended.
 

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Exactly, I can't comment on something I haven't seen. ;) Unless there's new Crysis 3 multiplayer footage hanging around somewhere that shows the opposite.

But honestly, this seems more like a double account from someone who was banned:

there's no reason a new poster who's been here less than a year would be that upset or spiteful over my comments alone.

EDIT: Bought the game anyway, I can't say I'm a fan of the art direction but I do like the detail and the graphics look great, so I wanted to check it out.

A good try at deflection, but you said that the retail game wouldn't have better graphics in SP either. Ignoring basic reasoning that indicated an MP beta would be stripped for performance. You never even considered that the SP could be better, you said the opposite, my other quote proves that.


It's a console port, nothing more.
If only other companies could make console ports like Crytek...



Is that the best you could come up with? It's a rather pitiful attempt. I've only ever had one account. I just call out biased people and ignorant comments when I see them.
 

railven

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If you're also interested in Bioshock Infinite, why not just pick up a code off eBay? You can get Crysis 3 and Bioshock Infinite for around $50-60 (combined of course).

GMG is/was running a deal for Tomb Raider, $36.

I agree, anyone paying $60 for PC games IS being ripped off. Aside the few hard locked games (such as the Skyrims, the Call of Duties) shopping around is super easy, and most keys will be a Steam Key or it's respecitive Online Distro (Uplay/Origin).

I can't remember the last time I paid >$40 for a PC game - oh yeah, WOW: MOP LE, damn you Blizzard!
 

sze5003

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GMG is/was running a deal for Tomb Raider, $36.

I agree, anyone paying $60 for PC games IS being ripped off. Aside the few hard locked games (such as the Skyrims, the Call of Duties) shopping around is super easy, and most keys will be a Steam Key or it's respecitive Online Distro (Uplay/Origin).

I can't remember the last time I paid >$40 for a PC game - oh yeah, WOW: MOP LE, damn you Blizzard!

My card is not accepted there says its a gambling site. I contacted them they said they did not see a transaction coming from my bank. Bank says they didn't see any request from gmg.
 

blackened23

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My card is not accepted there says its a gambling site. I contacted them they said they did not see a transaction coming from my bank. Bank says they didn't see any request from gmg.

GMG is in the UK so you can't use a CC. Paypal always works with GMG, however - i've done quite a few transactions there, great place to buy games.
 

railven

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My card is not accepted there says its a gambling site. I contacted them they said they did not see a transaction coming from my bank. Bank says they didn't see any request from gmg.

Woof, that sucks, use the Paypal option? Thanks to GMG I've saved about $15-20 on games before launch. BL2 was $40, DMC was $35, now TR for $36, I wouldn't be surprised if they get Bioshock for <$40 in a few weeks.

Oh wells, as a long time PC gamer, they have historically been cheaper then console games (at retail) and with Activision making the first move pricing MW2 $60 like it's console counter parts, I said eff and refuse to buy any PC game for >$40, and so far I've had no issues buying games I really want to play.

Digital Distro has really made PC gaming shine in terms of bang for buck. Give the game a week or two, and it will be discounted nicely if you miss some of the pre-order deals.
 

sze5003

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Yeah my PayPal is linked to my bank account , my card, or bill me later.

I will have to try that. The 36 bucks for tomb raider looks interesting. Maybe they will have something for crysis 3 as well.
 

richprice79

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I thought I would weigh in on AMD performance. I am running the game with an AMD FX8350 and Radeon 7970 with all setting below at a rock solid 30FPS.

1920x1080
AA 4x (Medium)
all setting including textures set to very high with the exception of shadows (medium) and shaders (high).

With this combo it runs very smooth and I cant tell a huge difference with shadows at medium other than the framerate,
 

MrK6

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A good try at deflection, but you said that the retail game wouldn't have better graphics in SP either. Ignoring basic reasoning that indicated an MP beta would be stripped for performance. You never even considered that the SP could be better, you said the opposite, my other quote proves that.
Do you have a quote for any of those accusations or are you to keep taking my phrases perversely out of context? If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you maybe you should get off the forum instead of throwing a temper tantrum; the rest of us are adults here.
If only other companies could make console ports like Crytek...
Cd Projekt, 4A Games...
Is that the best you could come up with? It's a rather pitiful attempt. I've only ever had one account. I just call out biased people and ignorant comments when I see them.
Bias against what exactly? You can't just throw out accusations when someone disagrees with you and go on some personal vendetta because you're upset. I'll let the mods deal with this if they wish, but do yourself a favor and develop some decorum if you want to stay here.
 

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Do you have a quote for any of those accusations or are you to keep taking my phrases perversely out of context? If you can't handle someone disagreeing with you maybe you should get off the forum instead of throwing a temper tantrum; the rest of us are adults here.
Cd Projekt, 4A Games...
Bias against what exactly? You can't just throw out accusations when someone disagrees with you and go on some personal vendetta because you're upset. I'll let the mods deal with this if they wish, but do yourself a favor and develop some decorum if you want to stay here.

The irony…

I already quoted your remarks about how the release game wouldn't have any better graphics. It had been pointed out to you by myself and multiple others that the SP would be much better, you came back and said we were "living in la-la land if you think they're hiding something for release." I haven't taken anything out of context. If you think differently, prove it, go back and quote the previous posts on that page.

Anyways, I was pointing out that the game isn't a console port. Your inability to comprehend this indicates to me that any further attempts on my part are futile.
 

Skurge

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How do you figure this?

I played crysis 1 at release on a C2D at 1280x1024 with excellent framerates at medium settings; not once was the framerate ever an issue in my enjoyment of the game. I'm trying to figure out in what way it was poorly coded (your claim) - do you mean that it can only use two cores or what? The mere fact that people are still playing crysis 1 and modding it is a statement to how groundbreaking it was 6 years ago.

I can't wait for the "oh but crysis 3 is coded poorly" argument which I find completely silly - the game looks fantastic and once you tweak your video settings a bit it will run great and still look fantastic. You can't blindly set everything to ultra in crysis 3 either. People really need to temper their expectations in that respect, crysis games have always been highly scale-able for future machines. Crysis 3 is no exception to this rule - this means you cannot simply max every video setting in the game unless your system is exceptionally powerful.

I never said it was poorly Coded, just that it doesn't take advantage of modern CPUs. Yes it does only use 2 cores. There is ample GPU power to Run Crysis much faster than we currently do. That's why people can mod it and still get similar performance unless it's crazy mods.

Quad core sandy gets nearly double the performance of dual core sandy in crysis 3. Imagine if the game only utilised 2 cpu cores.

GTX690 gets nearly 60fps and 50fps minimum and there are much faster solutions out there. That was never the case with Crysis 1.

The was a thread here that showed how poorly Crysis 1 used CPU power, now i'm not saying Crysis 1 was poorly coded 90% of people then had dual cores anyway. Dual 8970 or 780s will easily be able to crack 90fps with Steamroller or Haswell-E if there is such a thing.

You could not say the say the same about Crysis 1.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2403/4

A 7970 is 20-25% faster than a 580 in Crysis 1, but it's 80% faster in Crysis 3.
 

Grooveriding

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I never said it was poorly Coded, just that it doesn't take advantage of modern CPUs. Yes it does only use 2 cores. There is ample GPU power to Run Crysis much faster than we currently do. That's why people can mod it and still get similar performance unless it's crazy mods.

Quad core sandy gets nearly double the performance of dual core sandy in crysis 3. Imagine if the game only utilised 2 cpu cores.

GTX690 gets nearly 60fps and 50fps minimum and there are much faster solutions out there. That was never the case with Crysis 1.

The was a thread here that showed how poorly Crysis 1 used CPU power, now i'm not saying Crysis 1 was poorly coded 90% of people then had dual cores anyway. Dual 8970 or 780s will easily be able to crack 90fps with Steamroller or Haswell-E if there is such a thing.

You could not say the say the same about Crysis 1.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/2403/4

A 7970 is 20-25% faster than a 580 in Crysis 1, but it's 80% faster in Crysis 3.

There is a ton of water everywhere in Crysis 3, I'm assuming it's as tessellated as it was in the second one. Not surprised the 7970 is so much better in the third one compared to the 1st.

I have a 7950 @ 1.2Ghz in another machine with a C2D E6400 @ 3.2Ghz, wonder how Crysis 3 will perform on that system... :D
 

moonbogg

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So I played the first few checkpoints and WOW, this game is incredible really. It looks much better than I expected. I can generally hold around 60fps, but there are some SLI issues with some graphics effects, such as dripping water and some other stuff causes GPU usage to fall to about 40% which induces lag, but most of the time GPU usage is high and FPS is good.
All maxed settings with 4x MSAA. GPU mem usage at 1080p is 1.8gb, but I haven't turned off aero yet while playin the game.
There is almost too much detail in the game. The detail is so fine that 4x AA doesn't fully do its job and the details look grainy. I think the game may look better with higher AA levels or higher pixel pitch, such as a 1440p monitor. Anyway, great game. I am actually enjoying it and expect to finish the game, which is very rare for me. Far Cry 3 was great and barely got me to finish the main missions, which is a big deal and I expect to finish this as well. Great story telling aspect to the game, great music really draws you in etc. Really good.