Crybabies at my office force a no firearms on-site policy

[Anubis]

lol that guards here outside the platinum shop have ARs

 

[FallenHero]

It is private property, they can do what they want. Sad that people feel they need to have a firearm everywhere. I totally support gun rights, but this is just nuts. I have a friend who works IT and he does concealed carry at work, imo I think he is just being overly paranoid. And for those who will cite being going postal, how often does that really happen? More than 99% of people will go their entire lives never being in such a situation.

Terrible line of thinking. Last time I researched it, close to 90% of the police officers on the street will never ever need their firearm. So lets disarm the police too!

 

[olds]

Terrible line of thinking. Last time I researched it, close to 90% of the police officers on the street will never ever need their firearm. So lets disarm the police too!

I've never needed a seat belt or an air bag, remove them from cars.

 

[Red Squirrel]

Actually wanting to bring a firearm to work means you are either paranoid to the point you should seek counseling or have a nasty trick up your sleeve. I can't picture any reason one would need a gun at work. Are customers THAT hard to deal with? 😛

 

[jteef]

OP, at the next company picnic or on just a random saturday you should lobby to include a marksmanship competition or just organize a trip to the range for camraderie and teambuilding. Then take note of who protests or doesn't show up without a viable excuse. Lastly put some effort into bringing their career down. You will be a hero to all.

 

[Lithium381]

And if for example, a person that didn't follow the law were to arrive at the work site armed. That person started shooting people and the guards there were unarmed, the people would have no defense. Kind of like the Norway shootings.

But if the guard was armed, he might be able to save people by injuring/killing the gunman. If employees were armed, there's a better chance the gunman would be stopped.

I know you're supposed to be a resident funny guy or something around here.... are you trying to make a joke? If you are i don't get it...... i'll say it again...... THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST SHOOTING PEOPLE.

I'm not sure how much more plainly I can put it.....there is a consequence of possible jail time for shooting someone....you can even lose your right to legally own a firearm for brandishing it in a threatening manner...... so by using my powers of deduction, nobody will do it, ergo no need for "armed guards".

And hey, listen: if someone has a lapse of judgement and decides to shoot someone..... instead of having an armed citizen or hired guard around to possibly stop the criminal, we can pass another law that will SURELY prevent it from happening again.

 

[Wanescotting]

I know you're supposed to be a resident funny guy or something around here.... are you trying to make a joke? If you are i don't get it...... i'll say it again...... THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST SHOOTING PEOPLE.

I'm not sure how much more plainly I can put it.....there is a consequence of possible jail time for shooting someone....you can even lose your right to legally own a firearm for brandishing it in a threatening manner...... so by using my powers of deduction, nobody will do it, ergo no need for "armed guards".

And hey, listen: if someone has a lapse of judgement and decides to shoot someone..... instead of having an armed citizen or hired guard around to possibly stop the criminal, we can pass another law that will SURELY prevent it from happening again.

wat?

 

[JulesMaximus]

Actually wanting to bring a firearm to work means you are either paranoid to the point you should seek counseling or have a nasty trick up your sleeve. I can't picture any reason one would need a gun at work. Are customers THAT hard to deal with? 😛

It might help with salary negotiations.

 

[Raduque]

And if they don't, a press of a button will magically contact forces to protect us!(unlike when the 2nd amendment was created)

Because Police officers immediately materialize out of nowhere the INSTANT you dial 911. 🙄

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

You're an idiot, shadow9d9.

 

[olds]

...

You're an idiot, shadow9d9.

I second the motion.

 

[Wanescotting]

I second the motion.

Third

 

[SparkyJJO]

Actually wanting to bring a firearm to work means you are either paranoid to the point you should seek counseling or have a nasty trick up your sleeve. I can't picture any reason one would need a gun at work. Are customers THAT hard to deal with? 😛

You have no idea... :twisted:

 

[SparkyJJO]

I know you're supposed to be a resident funny guy or something around here.... are you trying to make a joke? If you are i don't get it...... i'll say it again...... THERE ARE LAWS AGAINST SHOOTING PEOPLE.

I'm not sure how much more plainly I can put it.....there is a consequence of possible jail time for shooting someone....you can even lose your right to legally own a firearm for brandishing it in a threatening manner...... so by using my powers of deduction, nobody will do it, ergo no need for "armed guards".

And hey, listen: if someone has a lapse of judgement and decides to shoot someone..... instead of having an armed citizen or hired guard around to possibly stop the criminal, we can pass another law that will SURELY prevent it from happening again.

....what? 😵

Because Police officers immediately materialize out of nowhere the INSTANT you dial 911. 🙄

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

You're an idiot, shadow9d9.

I second the motion.

Third

Fourth.

All in favor?

 

[shadow9d9]

Because Police officers immediately materialize out of nowhere the INSTANT you dial 911. 🙄

"When seconds count, the police are only minutes away."

You're an idiot, shadow9d9.

We should hereby dismantle security systems and disband the police!

Ad hominem to opposition.

All in support, quote me to make a ridiculous argument somehow magically less ridiculous!

 

[vi edit]

I thought this thread was going to be about regular employees doing concealed carry and wasn't going to give you a lot of e-sympathy points. But after reading the thread I agree with you. People are just way too friggen paranoid. Where does it end? Brinkman Security doing cash pickups? Cops coming onsite for random things? As surprising as it may seem to cops and military people a gun is just part of their uniform. It's the same as having a cell phone in your pocket to them. It's just another tool they are trained to use.

We all drive home in cars and have just as high if not higher chance of being killed or killing someone with that than a trained soldier will with a gun in a civillian setting. I don't give a shit about the intent of the device. Too many people just outright fear guns instead of respecting what they are capable of...good or bad.

 

[FDF12389]

And if they don't, a press of a button will magically contact forces to protect us!(unlike when the 2nd amendment was created)

If they have this magical button why are they uncomfortable with armed professionals being around, after all they have the magical po-po teloport cloner ver. 5-0 button.

If one of the armed guards got out of hand couldn't they just press it?(unlike when the 2nd amendment was created)

 

[OverVolt]

I was robbed at gunpoint walking to get lunch at work. 99% of people not being in that type of situation my ass, just look up the crime statistics, keeping in mind how many people live in your town.

You have a pretty strong feeling of helplessness in a situation like that trust me. You are entirely at the whim of the criminal. Luckily I could tell by body language that my guy wasn't going to kill me but at the same time if it were the opposite of that and he was the kill you even if you give him the money type, there wouldn't have been anything I could really do. Trust me, you want armed guards at your workplace, they are the good guys.

 

[DirkGently1]

Live by the sword. die by the sword. It's kinda satisfying that so many Americans love guns and so many get killed by them. There's a nice bit of Darwinism in action right there.

 

[jlee]

Live by the sword. die by the sword. It's kinda satisfying that so many Americans love guns and so many get killed by them. There's a nice bit of Darwinism in action right there.

Relevance to armed security being banned from a workplace is...where, exactly?

 

[shadow9d9]

Relevance to armed security being banned from a workplace is...where, exactly?

The fact that americans think they NEED armed security...

 

[shadow9d9]

If they have this magical button why are they uncomfortable with armed professionals being around, after all they have the magical po-po teloport cloner ver. 5-0 button.

If one of the armed guards got out of hand couldn't they just press it?(unlike when the 2nd amendment was created)

The chances of being attacked are incredibly low.. so the need to be around armed people EVERY DAY at work obviously bothered some.

Comparison not found.

 

[FDF12389]

The fact that americans think they NEED armed security...

Do you need a seat belt in your car? Even if you are a perfect driver you probably still wear one because you are not the only person on the road and you cannot control others actions.

I feel the same way about my firearm. The difference between me and you is experience, which my position is founded on; whereas yours seems to be founded solely on ignorant social stigmas.

The chances of being attacked are incredibly low..

The chances are high enough that the company went through all the work and paid all the costs involved with arming their guards.

Comparison not found.

The comparison is exact. You said armed professionals are not needed because the police can protect you adequately from an armed man in the building.

If the police can so adequately protect you from an armed assailant IN THE BUILDING, then why disarmed anyone?

 

[FDF12389]

The chances of being attacked are incredibly low..

Just out of curiosity, since you like to base your opinion on the "Chances", what do you think the "chances" are of a employee being shot by a trained professional carrying a weapon?

 

[DominionSeraph]

Ad hominem to opposition.

Learn what an ad hominem is, you idiot.

Also, don't see the point of this thread.
Division employees don't want guns in their workplace. Division bans guns from the workplace.
Sounds like the division is doing right by their employees.
Some other division being security-for-hire is irrelevant to the division in question.

 

[shortylickens]

As with all gun threads, this one is stuffed fat with logical fallacies.

Big surprise America as a whole cant resolve this issue.