Crybabies at my office force a no firearms on-site policy

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NetWareHead

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I work for an un-named company in the IT/Technology division and another division of our company consists of armed guards. These men and women are licensed to carry firearms, have to certify and recertify their credentials yearly and are subject to more stringent policies (such as surprise drug testing etc...). For all intents and purposes, this division trains and acts like professional police officers/military.

The trouble started when an officer and 2 of his subordinates came on site to pick up some equipment they will be using in the field. They showed up in their field uniforms and gear (boots, badges, radios, holstered guns etc...). So many people ended up complaining and feeling "threatened" that management was forced to institute a no-firearms policy at this company site.

Now whenever these guys need to visit, they need to be met in the parking lot. I think it is a slap in the face that these guys, our own guys, are disrespected this way and made to wait outside. I think we have a bunch of crybabies here that are threatened by guns. Personally, having a few of these armed guys around regularly, I feel would deter crime or a disgruntled employee type we see on the news shooting up the place. Also alot of grumbling by legal owners of concealed carry in the building that don't want to lose their jobs but now need to leave their weapons at home.
 
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spidey07

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If some guy decides to go postal they are really going to regret that dumbass move.

Oh, that won't happen though because there is a no fire-arms policy so it's strictly forbidden for crazy guy to take gun into office and start mowing.
 
JulesMaximus

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Every company I've ever worked for has had a no firearms on company property policy.

Big fucking deal...
 
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Uhtrinity

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It is private property, they can do what they want. Sad that people feel they need to have a firearm everywhere. I totally support gun rights, but this is just nuts. I have a friend who works IT and he does concealed carry at work, imo I think he is just being overly paranoid. And for those who will cite being going postal, how often does that really happen? More than 99% of people will go their entire lives never being in such a situation.
 
Jeeebus

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spidey07 said:
But they're making the guards be unarmed it appears. I've worked at places with several armed guards and it was nice.
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they're not guards for the building where these IT people are - at least that's my understanding. They work elsewhere.

I'm with Jules on this one. Hell, I worked at the US Attorneys Office, and we'd always have DEA, FBI, local cops, etc. in and out of the building, and even they had to check their firearms at the door.

This isn't a particularly shocking policy.
 
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NetWareHead

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JulesMaximus said:
Every company I've ever worked for has had a no firearms on company property policy.

Big fucking deal...
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This is the first company I've worked at where this policy exists. Its like enacting this polcy at a police station or military base. Our division supports these armed officers in the field disallowing them entry is disrespectful.

What gets me is the paranoia surrounding guns and weapons. If someone wants to kill me, they will do it. Whether or not guns are "permitted." What if a cop needed to come onsite too? I don't see the difference between these armed guards and a police officer.
 
shortylickens

shortylickens

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As a staunch supporter of the 2nd amendment I say its perfectly within a private citizens rights to NOT allow firearms in their home or car.
It is also within a private companies rights to not allow firearms in their workplace.
Dont like it?
Get another job.

Gun seller comes to mind. Those guys are REQUIRED to carry every day at work.
 
edro

edro

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I thought pretty much every corporation had those "No weapons on premises" signs.
 
kranky

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Every place I have worked had a no-guns policy.

However, I do think it's bizarre to have such a rule when your own employees carry guns in the course of their regular duties.
 
Jaepheth

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Guns cause violence, drug addiction, tax fraud, and teen pregnancy.

Everyone knows this.
 
Scotteq

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Private Property owners have the right to disallow firearms on their premises if that's what they want. A responsible CCW holder will make the appropriate alternate arrangements - such as a gun safe in the car - or will conduct business via phone/computer/mail.


Regarding employees of the same company: I agree it's disrespectful. And in the case where other employees may take umbrage, I think the lobby or loading dock would be more appropriate than the parking lot.
 
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Turin39789

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kranky said:
Every place I have worked had a no-guns policy.

However, I do think it's bizarre to have such a rule when your own employees carry guns in the course of their regular duties.
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Meh, it sounds like the rule just applies to the Datacenter. Just because you provide armed security to 15 sites in a city, doesn't necessarily meant you are going to allow firearms in your server room.

But I would agree that if you are paying someone to carry a gun it would be strange to bar them from carrying on your own facilities.

So I just contradicted myself. Carry on.
 
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NetWareHead

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dfuze said:
What do the guards regularly handle that requires them to be armed?
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They guard valuables, dangerous sites and properties such as banks, nuclear and chemical plants, and other assorted things like that. Some of our guys are even in middle east doing security duties.
 
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NetWareHead

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Scotteq said:
Regarding employees of the same company: I agree it's disrespectful. And in the case where other employees may take umbrage, I think the lobby or loading dock would be more appropriate than the parking lot.
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These guys didnt even make it past the lobby. They were on site for perhaps 10 minutes while we gave them the field equipment (in the lobby) and then they left. This is what I'm talking about. The slightest show of a gun has people all up in arms.

Furthermore this no-firearms policy did not exist prior to this incident.
 
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