Critical Race Theory Is The Left’s QAnon

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Jaskalas

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The OP would rather go back to Columbus discovered America. After all, native Americans don't count, at least to those who wrote that history. White people.

Columbus did discover it... for us.
It is not wrong to say that, it's the European perspective. Or for civilization in general, as natives didn't exactly report back their findings to the rest of the world. Columbus did.
 
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The idea that there is systemic racism against BIPOC is backed by a fairly significant data set, so calling it idiocy is well, idiocy.

Teaching controversial theories is exactly what we SHOULD be doing. And also teaching their counterpoints. Anything less is a failure to instill analytical skills and yields the "indoctrination" you so vehemently oppose.

You teach kids knowledge and general reasoning to build their foundation for advancement and critical thinking in their later advanced life when they have matured.

Teaching them your version of history that is historically inaccurate, unproven, and cult-like is indoctrination.

I'm sorry you're too mentally incompetent to wrap your head around this.
 

Paratus

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I'm going to provide some links to a description of Critical Race Theory that I found doing some research since I was not aware of what CRT was. They explain what CRT is from a black point of view. These links do use the words white people and racism so be warned as I'm sure some of you may be set off by them.

That being said the basic description matches well with more neutral descriptions in wiki and provides an interesting counter view point to some of the links already provided in this thread.


This one is an opinion piece about why he feels everyone is wrong about CRT.
 
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ElFenix

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You teach kids knowledge and general reasoning to build their foundation for advancement and critical thinking in their later advanced life when they have matured.

Teaching them your version of history that is historically inaccurate, unproven, and cult-like is indoctrination.

I'm sorry you're too mentally incompetent to wrap your head around this.
And who said irony is dead
 

obidamnkenobi

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I went back and actually ready the Federalist opinion. It is sorely lacking in describing specific issues about CRT. It never even really says what it is! Just states that CRT teaches that "america is awful". I was hoping for at least some sense of what specifically the right object to CRT on, but alas. It seems to just be the old dogmatic "if you criticize a single thing about the USA you hate it all and want to destroy it. You must say it's perfect!!"
yawn!
 
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HomerJS

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I went back and actually ready the Federalist opinion. It is sorely lacking in describing specific issues about CRT. It never even really says what it is! Just states that CRT teaches that "america is awful". I was hoping for at least some sense of what specifically the right object to CRT on, but alas. It seems to just be the old dogmatic "if you criticize a single thing about the USA you hate it all and want to destroy it. You must say it's perfect!!"
yawn!
That's odd. It's the exact same position as @s0me0nesmind1. I see they all got a copy of the flawed intellectually bereft talking points.

Let's face it they just want to rewrite history to erase the ills of white people. That's why adults in Tulsa are ignorant of their own massacre. Who to you think ensured it was not taught in schools?
 
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uclaLabrat

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You teach kids knowledge and general reasoning to build their foundation for advancement and critical thinking in their later advanced life when they have matured.

Teaching them your version of history that is historically inaccurate, unproven, and cult-like is indoctrination.

I'm sorry you're too mentally incompetent to wrap your head around this.
Oh we shouldn't teach them "our version of history"?

What should we be teaching them? Every story, every conflict, every narrative has multiple lenses. What should we teach our kids if nothing but the unvarnished truth?

The entire point of this exercise is to demonstrate that "winners write the history books". So we should teach them only thing that are factually correct, right?

Like:
Columbus discovered the new world (wrong)
Civil War was fought over states' rights (wrong)
The Alamo was a heroic last stand of American settlers against an invading Mexican army (wrong)

I'm mentally incompetent? LULZ. I'll cry myself to sleep on my chemistry PhD 😂
 

Moonbeam

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Knowing nothing and if I had to guess, I would say that resistance to a theory of racism would indicate that the racism is there.
 

ivwshane

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I assume the 1619 project is a work in progress hence the inclusion of the word “project” and that the point of the project is to get a better more realistic picture of our history that isn’t written like some fairytale.

History will continue to be debated but the goal is to be as accurate as possible so that we can better understand ourselves and others and the societies humans have created.

If you aren’t in favor of providing people with a better understanding of our history then you might as well bury your head in the sand and do everything in your power to ignore the world around you.
 
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I assume the 1619 project is a work in progress hence the inclusion of the word “project” and that the point of the project is to get a better more realistic picture of our history that isn’t written like some fairytale.

History will continue to be debated but the goal is to be as accurate as possible so that we can better understand ourselves and others and the societies humans have created.

If you aren’t in favor of providing people with a better understanding of our history then you might as well bury your head in the sand and do everything in your power to ignore the world around you.

You sincerely can't be THIS level of stupid.... right?

:tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:
 

Amused

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You sincerely can't be THIS level of stupid.... right?

:tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:

You sure do an awful lot of projection.


The 1619 Project is an ongoing initiative from The New York Times Magazine that began in August 2019, the 400th anniversary of the beginning of American slavery. It aims to reframe the country’s history by placing the consequences of slavery and the contributions of black Americans at the very center of our national narrative.

Exactly what part of that do you have a problem with? Truth, or Facts?
 
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Amol S.

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I have a better proposal. Why not make the chapter on America during Slavery in school textbooks just two sentences long. "There was slavery in America, most of the slaves were black in skin color, and slavery would later be ilegalized. One of the many reasons of the Civil War was slavery. " Chapter End.
 
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nickqt

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I have a better proposal. Why not make the chapter on America during Slavery in school textbooks just two sentences long. "There was slavery in America, most of the slaves were black in skin color, and slavery would later be ilegalized. One of the many reasons of the Civil War was slavery. " Chapter End.
The reason for the Civil War was slavery. States' Rights and all the other "reasons" were just euphemisms for white people being able to own black people like you could own a couch.

Or we could go your route and world history books could be 14 pages long.

Here's WWII: There was a war in very many parts of the world, mostly between two factions, and one faction would later win. One of the many reasons for WWII was control of oil reserves.

That's your take on how history should be taught so white supremacist authoritarians don't get their feelings hurt?
 

Amol S.

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The reason for the Civil War was slavery. States' Rights and all the other "reasons" were just euphemisms for white people being able to own black people like you could own a couch.

Or we could go your route and world history books could be 14 pages long.

Here's WWII: There was a war in very many parts of the world, mostly between two factions, and one faction would later win. One of the many reasons for WWII was control of oil reserves.

That's your take on how history should be taught so white supremacist authoritarians don't get their feelings hurt?
I only said that chapter. I was also being a bit sarcastic.
 

JEDIYoda

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Stats show the majority of Americans realize the lunacy of CRT
You de realize that you come across like a racist piece of shit that does not want children to be taught that there were slaves and other such demons?
You also talk so foolishly about waiting until they get to college age because to do so otherwise would be to indoctrinate them! What is so wrong with children knowing the truth? Why are people like you so afraid of the truth?
 

mikeymikec

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Just states that CRT teaches that "america is awful".

I'm not arguing that this is what CRT teaches, but as a Brit I think if the mandatory history lessons I had at school taught us that the UK has spent a good portion of its history being awful, we would be learning what history should be teaching us. What's the point in learning history if not to learn the lessons that it can guide humanity to avoid repeating?

Furthermore, how many developed countries don't have an awful history?
 
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WelshBloke

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You sincerely can't be THIS level of stupid.... right?

:tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy: :tearsofjoy:
You know what really does show a high level of stupidity?
Not being able to explain what something is, what your issue with it is, and why you think it should be banned from being taught, after makeing a huge fuss about it. It makes you look like an easily manipulated idiot that doesn't even understand what he's mad about.
Just spamming Twitter and YouTube links along with a smattering of unimaginative insults suggests that you either don't understand the subject you are raging about or that you don't care enough about the subject to put any effort in.
 
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Meghan54

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I'm not arguing that this is what CRT teaches, but as a Brit I think if the mandatory history lessons I had at school taught us that the UK has spent a good portion of its history being awful, we would be learning what history should be teaching us. What's the point in learning history if not to learn the lessons that it can guide humanity to avoid repeating?

Furthermore, how many developed countries don't have an awful history?

Speaking of the UK and its history in all this…while I was doing some background reading about CRT (and actually ending up reading the actual CRT Project, which was rather interesting in and of itself,) did you know the UK just finished paying off slavery reparations in 2015?

I believe the payments had commenced in 1835, so that’s been one hella long time the UK taxpayer has been on the hook for the proper compensation for slavery…paying the slave owners for their lost property.

Yep… it’s taken the UK taxpayer almost 200 years to fully compensate the slave owners for their lost property when slavery was finally abolished.

Oh, what about the ex-slaves, you ask? LO-f’n-L!!! Not only was any attempt made to do anything close to humane for them, they were essentially kept in the exact same situation as they’d been in via the “apprentice” program the ex-slaves “joined” immediately upon being freed. Many writings describe these apprenticeship programs being worse for the ex-slaves than actual slavery had been.
 
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mikeymikec

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Speaking of the UK and its history in all this…while I was doing some background reading about CRT (and actually ending up reading the actual CRT Project, which was rather interesting in and of itself,) did you know the UK just finished paying off slavery reparations in 2015?

I believe the payments had commenced in 1835, so that’s been one hella long time the UK taxpayer has been on the hook for the proper compensation for slavery…paying the slave owners for their lost property.

Yep… it’s taken the UK taxpayer almost 200 years to fully compensate the slave owners for their lost property when slavery was finally abolished.

Oh, what about the ex-slaves, you ask? LO-f’n-L!!! Not only was any attempt made to do anything close to humane for them, they were essentially kept in the exact same situation as they’d been in via the “apprentice” program the ex-slaves “joined” immediately upon being freed. Many writings describe these apprenticeship programs being worse for the ex-slaves than actual slavery had been.

Sounds about white :)
 
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