Cremation incident in restaurant – Over Reacted?

[Capt Caveman]

OP - just in case you didn't know, you can catch the Takei by shaking someone's hand.

 

[Nebor]

People in the US are so flipping unrealistic about death, it's amazing.

We have made death an isolated experience, so we die in hospitals with strangers, we've lost something important in the process...

I actually feel sorry for SS and the OP and his wife, death is a part of life, and we're unwilling to even allow people to have some closure because it might inconvenience us or make us think icky thoughts.

We're all going to die folks, it's just a matter of timing.

No one lives forever. No one. But with advances in modern science, and my high level of income, I mean, it's not crazy to think I can't live to be 245, maybe 300.

 

[gorcorps]

Mind your own damned business next time OP. It's not like they were parading her around the kitchen where your food was made. You should be far more worried about the kitchen then the shit at the table next to you.

 

[SooperDave]

I agree with the masses...

What you complained about was not only insensitive, but shallow and ignorant.

+1

 

[SlickSnake]

i'd like to see the health code that actually specifies that.

There don't necessarily have to be one. A health inspector, fire marshal, building inspector or even code enforcement are given some leeway when enforcing any government code. If they tell you to do something for a valid reason, and you don't, a citation is issued, and the courts will sort it out later. And a health inspector can deem many substances are a biohazard or hazardous waste without them being specifically listed on an ordinance, too.

However, there are different state and federal guidelines for handling cremated remains. If no local or state laws exist on handling or disbursing cremated remains, then the federal law or EPA guidelines or whatever is then enforceable by any government official.

And in looking at federal guidelines for disposal by a family, for different national and state parks and waterways, the laws would take some research. In some cases they may even require a permit or be prohibited completely.

 

[Perknose]

A customer is expected a certain level of care and thoughtfulness when in any restaurant. . .

Yes, and YOU fell disgustingly far below that "certain level of care and thoughtfulness."

It disturbed my meal . . .

It was YOU who disturbed them, a grieving family loyally making their sentimental goodbyes to their dead mother, you heartless, officious prick.

. . . and it was my duty to ‘enquire’ with the manager or leave.

It wasn't your "damn" duty to do anything.

Your only acceptable choices were to mind your own damn business or to leave.

And you're probably not British, so stop trying to speak like one, Lord Fauntleroy.

 

[SlickSnake]

You know, I've actually been to a bar that had the cremated remains of a jazz musician stored in an urn in the bar. The health department didn't seem to care about that.

Yea, it's in a bar. That don't surprise me at all, and the health department probably knows it's there.

The next question is: does the bar have a full service kitchen and serve hot food? That's the hair the health department would split in that situation, and if so, he might not agree that the bar is the best place to keep the remains. Unless the urn is sanitary (no coffee cans, ect.), completely sealed with a screw on lid, and/or permanently glued shut and out of the reach of drunk bar patrons.

 

[SlickSnake]

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[Pliablemoose]

When I die, would someone please sprinkle me on SlickSnake in his sleep, then wake him up, videotape all of it and post it on YouTube?

 

[Bignate603]

Yea, it's in a bar. That don't surprise me at all, and the health department probably knows it's there.

If it's a biohazard like you claim, it wouldn't matter if it's a bar or restaurant. Or does it suddenly become safe if no food is being consumed?

 

[DrPizza]

Yea, it's in a bar. That don't surprise me at all, and the health department probably knows it's there.

The next question is: does the bar have a full service kitchen and serve hot food? That's the hair the health department would split in that situation, and if so, he might not agree that the bar is the best place to keep the remains. Unless the urn is sanitary (no coffee cans, ect.), completely sealed with a screw on lid, and/or permanently glued shut and out of the reach of drunk bar patrons.

lmao! Have you ever been in a bar? So, the health department would be okay with chips, peanuts, various snack foods - BUT, only if they don't cook those foods? It's okay to mix up all sorts of beverages in close proximity to that urn, but God forbid you actually warm up a sandwich or something in a back kitchen. lmao! I'm suspecting your trolling attempts are getting weaker.

 

[DrPizza]

Speaking of lmao, I can't believe this clip hasn't been posted yet in this thread. It's so fitting.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ceElnl7VANg

THIS must be the hazard that slicksnake is speaking of.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

That was a douche move on you and your wife's part, you just had to fuck things up for those folks.

If I were the manager I would've told you uptight assholes to leave.

This. There's nothing unsanitary about an urn or its contents. I think it's nice that they were taking their mom on one last tour of her favorite places. And if I were in that group I would have asked the manager to show me what part of the health code I was violating.

Mind your own goddamn business and things like this won't bother you.

 

[SlickSnake]

If it's a biohazard like you claim, it wouldn't matter if it's a bar or restaurant. Or does it suddenly become safe if no food is being consumed?

A bar frequently has completely different rules for a health department inspection to go by, at least in a large city.

So while it don't suddenly become safe in a bar, things like bathroom and sanitation issues are frequently over looked with a warning, where as the same situation in a restaurant might get it shut down until its fixed, like a leaky toilet or no hot water in a bathroom for instance.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

A bar frequently has completely different rules for a health department inspection to go by, at least in a large city.

So while it don't suddenly become safe in a bar, things like bathroom and sanitation issues are frequently over looked with a warning, where as the same situation in a restaurant might get it shut down until its fixed, like a leaky toilet or no hot water in a bathroom for instance.

Umm... Does the phrase 'talking out of your ass' mean anything to you?

 

[SKORPI0]

i'd like to see the health code that actually specifies that.

There don't necessarily have to be one. A health inspector, fire marshal, building inspector or even code enforcement are given some leeway when enforcing any government code. If they tell you to do something for a valid reason, and you don't, a citation is issued, and the courts will sort it out later. And a health inspector can deem many substances are a biohazard or hazardous waste without them being specifically listed on an ordinance, too.

However, there are different state and federal guidelines for handling cremated remains. If no local or state laws exist on handling or disbursing cremated remains, then the federal law or EPA guidelines or whatever is then enforceable by any government official.

If there are any federal guidelines for handling cremated remains that show they are a biohazard/harzardous waste, please give us the link. Or are you just making it up? Not sure how you can enforce something if it is not within the guidelines/if any such guideline even exist.

The only way it will be hazardous is if any radioactive implants were not properly disposed of during the cremation process..... I don't see that happening though after the fact.

Handling Of Human Remains In Conjunction With The Cremation Process

Scattering Human Remains

Processed cremated human remains, sometimes called ashes, are a sanitary natural substance.
There are no specific statutory restrictions on scattering cremated remains.

Take note of these pictures, besides the person a wearing mask for dust.. I don't see anyone wearing a Hazmat suit...

Hazmat suit...

 

[SlickSnake]

lmao! Have you ever been in a bar? So, the health department would be okay with chips, peanuts, various snack foods - BUT, only if they don't cook those foods? It's okay to mix up all sorts of beverages in close proximity to that urn, but God forbid you actually warm up a sandwich or something in a back kitchen. lmao! I'm suspecting your trolling attempts are getting weaker.

You think? Maybe you can contact your local health department tomorrow if you don't live in a small town without one, and get back with us on that observation, before you shoot yourself in the foot first next time. And it would certainly be up to the health inspector to make that call, and not a bunch of drooling forum trolls sniffing out a fight, in any event.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

blahblah

just accept that you fucked up and stop trying to justify yourself. if you truly believe you didn't over-react, then you and your wife are giant pieces of shit.

 

[Born2bwire]

Yeah overreacted. It's a bit weird to be sure but there was no reason for you to have them evicted. Their mom just died, a douchebag move all the way.

EDIT: This has also reminded me that I need to specify in my will that I will be cremated and scattered all across various inconvenient parts of the globe.

 

[SirStev0]

I know its late in.. but youre a dick. Get over yourself. It is ash. Nothing biological at all.


I'd hope when you die someone doesn't fucks with your grieving family...

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

You think? Maybe you can contact your local health department tomorrow if you don't live in a small town without one, and get back with us on that observation, before you shoot yourself in the foot first next time. And it would certainly be up to the health inspector to make that call, and not a bunch of drooling forum trolls sniffing out a fight, in any event.

Again... Do you understand the phrase 'talking out of your ass'?

Because that's what you're doing.

 

[SlickSnake]

When I die, would someone please sprinkle me on SlickSnake in his sleep, then wake him up, videotape all of it and post it on YouTube?

I would be honored. Just have your estate contact me, and we can make arrangements. And I can sneeze real hard at the end and blow it all over the room for the climax, it would be epic indeed. I get the all royalties for all the million plus web hits, since you're dead, you won't be needing it.

So you honestly think if I run into burning buildings and breath smoke and ash your sweet, sweet, ashes would bug me at all? Hardly. But I'm also not doing that while eating or drinking, well, at least most of the time. It depends on how big the fire is.

And I assure you the shit I do breath accidentally is WAY more toxic than simple cremated ash is. But I just don't like eating with dead things nearby, especially if the food is bad enough in the first place.

 

[Bryophyte]

These things are prone to tipping over, and the lids frequently do not screw on, too. If this thing fell over, it would be considered a BIOHAZARD and HAZARDOUS WASTE. The dust would then drift all over the restaurant, and it would have to be evacuated and closed down. The manager was 100% right in asking them to leave, and the grieving morons should have never brought it in without permission in the first place. None of you post tards has ever run a restaurant, OBVIOUSLY.

That's not true. Cremated remains are not considered to be anything at all according to the health department. You're not allowed to have a dead body in your house, but they don't care if it's ashes. They don't consider it hazardous waste or a biohazard. How could something be a biohazard if it's no longer biological?

 

[fstime]

You're a dick.

They did nothing that was preventing you from enjoying your meal and dust in a sealed jar is not going to magically wind up in the kitchen and in your soup. I doubt they were opening it up and sprinkling salt and pepper ash on their meals.

All living things are organic matter made up of similar elements. The cremated ash of a person is no different than ash from burning wood. Nothing to get scared about, you arn't going to catch aids or ebola.

Nice move asshole. I agree you are extremely shallow.

 

[SlickSnake]

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