Cop caught on camera punching 20-year-old woman

[Darwin333]

This is no exception, but it has nothing to do with her being a woman. The video is incomplete, but I can see no possible reason for a cop to punch in the face a prone person. They need to facilitate arrest by controlling her wrists and tackling if need be. They were doing a poor job of that, too. I agree the video does not show the inciting incident that made the police angry. That makes his reaction a lot more understandable. But not appropriate. I really doubt firing him is just punishment, although I'd like to know more about how different his behavior is than those on his unit to compare.

See I just don't think it is relevant what she may have done to make him angry. Cops are supposed to be trained and are definitely paid to remain in control. Punching her in the temple and face while she was on the ground with two men on top of her did absolutely nothing to help the situation. "She made me angry" has never been an excuse to punch a woman like that, cop or not.

In my opinion the really scary thing is how willing they are to do shit like this with a fuckton of witnesses all around them. Just imagine what that cop might do if someone makes him angry and there is no one around.

 

[Darwin333]

Just the cost of doing business. Who thinks this was worth it over beer and her being 20? Lol....you can vote, buy cigarettes, porn, die for your country, but America can't survive a 20 year old ingesting a beer. Hell no, that's the beginning of the end.

From what I have read she passed a breathalyzer test and she didn't have any open containers of alcohol. The altercation was because she didn't want to give them her last name since she passed the breathalyzer test which in most states is perfectly legal since they no longer had reason to suspect her of a crime. Not disagreeing with what you wrote in any way though.

 

[interchange]

See I just don't think it is relevant what she may have done to make him angry. Cops are supposed to be trained and are definitely paid to remain in control. Punching her in the temple and face while she was on the ground with two men on top of her did absolutely nothing to help the situation. "She made me angry" has never been an excuse to punch a woman like that, cop or not.

In my opinion the really scary thing is how willing they are to do shit like this with a fuckton of witnesses all around them. Just imagine what that cop might do if someone makes him angry and there is no one around.

I thought I clearly stated that punching her was not OK.

 

[Younigue]

Moonbeam appears to approve of the beating of women (and children). Every time a story is posted with a woman being punched in the face on camera he rushes to the scene to explain why it is OK and not a problem that this happened. He chose to come here and defend assault and it is totally appropriate to call him out for it and make him explain himself.



Are you seriously asking this question? Does it matter if you beat a 4 year old child vs an adult human? Women are much smaller and physically weaker than men, they are also more susceptible to head injuries and concussions (this is a medical fact). If you don't even understand that different demographics of humans can tolerate different amounts of physical abuse then I sincerely hope you are not in any position to care for another human, let alone a small child or baby.

Seems to me there was no shortage of police there. They should have been able to restrain one person without resorting to punching.

 

[Younigue]

Ah! So this entitles them to resist arrest with impunity! I understand now.

So three (shown) police can't restrain an unarmed 20 year old without abusing the person?

That officer punched because he felt like it not because there was any need.

 

[Darwin333]

I thought I clearly stated that punching her was not OK.

Oh I wasn't trying to insinuate that you thought it was ok. I was just trying to point out that there shouldn't be any mitigating factors like she made him angry or whatnot. My apologies if I came across otherwise.

 

[ch33zw1z]

From what I have read she passed a breathalyzer test and she didn't have any open containers of alcohol. The altercation was because she didn't want to give them her last name since she passed the breathalyzer test which in most states is perfectly legal since they no longer had reason to suspect her of a crime. Not disagreeing with what you wrote in any way though.

Agreed. It's seems just to be another authoritarian display of power. But dont worry, tax payers will bail them out later.

The breathalyzer and name thing are in the articles about this, it's just ridiculous how we treat drugs in this country.

 

[mindless1]

^ Authorities should display power rather than tolerate this nonsense. Make an example of her, just not with face punches.

She should have been restrained another way or tasered but I have little sympathy. If your punk ass is going to drink in public, underaged or where prohibited, be prepared to ID yourself, don't get defiant, and don't resist arrest.

That it happened in public with so many views is a good thing. This kind of example needs to be set of what happens if you can't get along with society. It IS not getting along with society to break the law no matter how innocent you try to pretend you are while doing so.

Again, no face punching or permanent injury level assault but meh, of all the people on the beach don't even try to claim they just randomly selected someone to pummel.

Sometimes people need a beat-down because it's the only thing that will teach them. Think about it, how dumb was it to take your 18 month old daughter along with alcohol to a beach where a lot of people were drinking, then escalate a situation to the point of violence? IMO, unfit mother in addition to idiot in general.

 

[ch33zw1z]

She's passed a breathalyzer, refused to show ID, but thanks for letting us know how you enjoy authoritarian displays of power.

 

[mindless1]

^ So if you pass a breathalyzer it becomes legal to drink underage in public or resist arrest and assault officers?

Hey I'm all for asking nicely to not do these things yet she did.

I do think the PD should be liable for any legitimate medical bills, and that punching is not a legitimate restraint method, those officers who do so shouldn't be officers.

 

[ch33zw1z]

^ So if you pass a breathalyzer it becomes legal to drink underage in public or resist arrest?

Hey I'm all for asking nicely to not do these things, yet she did.

I do think the PD should be liable for any legitimate medical bills.

"Weinman, in a Facebook post that has since been removed, said she had been drinking a beer, according to NJ.com. The website said she was approached by officers on the beach around 4 p.m. Weinman said she passed a Breathalyzer test and cops followed her when she went to make a phone call.

"I asked them don't they have something better to do as cops than to stop people for underage drinking on the beach," the Facebook post said. That's when Weinman claims an officer said, "I was gonna let you go but now I'll write you up.""

Good to know you are ok with this situation. She mouthed off, so here comes the beatdown, no problem.

I'm looking forward to the body can footage.

Yes, I dont think underage drinking, passing a breathalyzer, then questioning why cops are still following you is grounds for this response.

 

[Jaskalas]

^ Authorities should display power rather than tolerate this nonsense.

You want to violate people because they might be drinking something? Why, does their liberty offend you? I'd be more offended if you called yourself an American.

 

[FIVR]

Seems to me there was no shortage of police there. They should have been able to restrain one person without resorting to punching.

She is like 110lbs and they have 3 cops manhandling her and punching her in the face with a closed fist.

It amazes me how people are somehow OK with blatant physical abuse of the weakest and most helpless among us. I think if they caught these cops beating a 7 year old girl on video they would make excuses. "Did the little girl say mean things that hurt his feelings? We don't know what happened prior to the video!"

 

[Younigue]

She is like 110lbs and they have 3 cops manhandling her and punching her in the face with a closed fist.

It amazes me how people are somehow OK with blatant physical abuse of the weakest and most helpless among us. I think if they caught these cops beating a 7 year old girl on video they would make excuses. "Did the little girl say mean things that hurt his feelings? We don't know what happened prior to the video!"

It seems to be heading in that direction. What of the toddlers? They act like they're chronicly drunk. That would certainly classify as under age drinking and we all know how belligerent they can be!

 

[The Merg]

I don't see an issue with the amount of force used here...

In reading what she wrote on Facebook and what the city released, she was either intoxicated or she had been drinking, which since she is under 21 was illegal. The officer was going to write her a summons, but she refused to give her full information, so she was going to be placed under arrest. At some point she allegedly kicked the officer in the groin and spat on him (the latter is mentioned to be on the bodycam).

When the video starts, if you watch carefully, you can see her kicking at the officers as the one officer is trying to hold her on the ground. In response to that, he punches her twice. There is nothing wrong with doing that in that situation. The punch creates a distraction to her, which then allows the officer to flip her over and he eventually gets on her back. The officer could have used many other versions of force at that time, such as tasing her for actively resisting (and you can see her continue to try to kick and not allow the officer handcuff her). The officer did not continue to keep punching and hitting her. Once the two punches did what they were supposed to do, he continued to attempt to arrest her. If you continue watching, you can even see her get up to her knees at one point after the officer is on her back.

- Merg

 

[HeXen]

yeah, you'll have that. But it was effective in preventing her from resisting.

 

[balloonshark]

If a one (or two or three) male cop/s can't handle one sober 20 year old woman then he should look for another career. This type of force isn't necessary unless their lives or others are actually in danger. Cops nowadays rather shoot or hit first and ask questions later. It also seems that some cops are dicks and escalate rather than de-escalate.

 

[zerocool84]

You want to violate people because they might be drinking someone? Why, does their liberty offend you? I'd be more offended if you called yourself an American.

Civil rights don't matter anymore as long as it's not their own rights being infringed upon.

 

[The Merg]

If a one (or two or three) male cop/s can't handle one sober 20 year old woman then he should look for another career. This type of force isn't necessary unless their lives or others are actually in danger. Cops nowadays rather shoot or hit first and ask questions later. It also seems that some cops are dicks and escalate rather than de-escalate.

She was very possibly intoxicated. There were two cops there initially looking at the video. She was actively resisting in kicking and punching, so what force should the cops have used? As for cops only being able to hit someone if someone’s life is in danger, she was actively trying to assault to the officers.

As for the cops escalating things here, where did you get that? She was going to get a summons, but refused to provide her info. She then spat on the officer and possibly kicked him in the groin and then resisted arrest, but the cops escalated things.

- Merg

 

[zerocool84]

She was very possibly intoxicated. There were two cops there initially looking at the video. She was actively resisting in kicking and punching, so what force should the cops have used? As for cops only being able to hit someone if someone’s life is in danger, she was actively trying to assault to the officers.

As for the cops escalating things here, where did you get that? She was going to get a summons, but refused to provide her info. She then spat on the officer and possibly kicked him in the groin and then resisted arrest, but the cops escalated things.

- Merg

People used to read the full article before commenting, you obviously did not do that as everything you said is incorrect.

 

[FIVR]

I've noticed this Merg douche never posts apart from threads about cops. When he does post, it is without reading the article (or simply ignoring its contents) and in eager defense of the cops actions (whatever they are). Never any criticism for a cop but always lots of innuendo and lies about the victim.


Seems like he is payed by the cops to post here. He probably has accounts on all sort of sites, and has a tailored search engine to find any time people post about cops. He clearly has no business here apart from the defense of Tyranny.

 

[balloonshark]

She was very possibly intoxicated. There were two cops there initially looking at the video. She was actively resisting in kicking and punching, so what force should the cops have used? As for cops only being able to hit someone if someone’s life is in danger, she was actively trying to assault to the officers.

As for the cops escalating things here, where did you get that? She was going to get a summons, but refused to provide her info. She then spat on the officer and possibly kicked him in the groin and then resisted arrest, but the cops escalated things.

- Merg

The way I read it the cops followed her (harassed her) after she passed the breathalyzer test. If that isn't escalation I don't know what is. Either way a full grown man/men should be able to cuff a little 20 year old woman without beating her. The cop wouldn't make a good bouncer let alone a cop because he doesn't have the right temperament.

 

[The Merg]

The way I read it the cops followed her (harassed her) after she passed the breathalyzer test. If that isn't escalation I don't know what is. Either way a full grown man/men should be able to cuff a little 20 year old woman without beating her. The cop wouldn't make a good bouncer let alone a cop because he doesn't have the right temperament.

I am confused about this breathalyzer, she refers to... She’s underage, so if she had been drinking, she had illegally been consuming alcohol.

As for a man handcuffing a 20 year old woman, it’s not that easy if she doesn’t want to be arrested. As for beating her, yes, he punched her twice, but that is not necessarily as “beating” her, which implies it was unnecessary.

- Merg

 

[Younigue]

She was very possibly intoxicated. There were two cops there initially looking at the video. She was actively resisting in kicking and punching, so what force should the cops have used? As for cops only being able to hit someone if someone’s life is in danger, she was actively trying to assault to the officers.

As for the cops escalating things here, where did you get that? She was going to get a summons, but refused to provide her info. She then spat on the officer and possibly kicked him in the groin and then resisted arrest, but the cops escalated things.

- Merg

The Merg is definitely a dick.

 

[The Merg]

The Merg is definitely a dick.

Very mature. Glad we can have an adult conversation.

- Merg